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Mechanix or The Four Horsemen?

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Postby Galborea » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:22 am

Cadonica wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Why nobody is talking about them? Well, even musical subcultures have their mainstreams. It is easier for most to talk about old and/or former thrash metal bands that happen to be quite popular than about obscure pornogrind from the Czech Republic, Austrian black metal or Dutch old school death metal.

It was a rhetoric question and I answered it in the same post. If you want to talk about obscure metal and no one else is doing it, bring those bands up instead of wondering why everyone is busy with pop metal. Pop metal as in popular metal, not as a genre because such doesn't really exist.

I will out obscure everyone here! How you might ask. Well, the best way to do that is to go to obscure countries like Algeria, Sri Lanka and Bahrain.

Galborea wrote:I thought speed metal was something different.

Speed metal
Thrash/speed metal

Difference is small but it's there.


Oh gawd you HAD to bring up Fastkill?

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Postby Cadonica » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:25 am

Galborea wrote:
Cadonica wrote:It was a rhetoric question and I answered it in the same post. If you want to talk about obscure metal and no one else is doing it, bring those bands up instead of wondering why everyone is busy with pop metal. Pop metal as in popular metal, not as a genre because such doesn't really exist.

I will out obscure everyone here! How you might ask. Well, the best way to do that is to go to obscure countries like Algeria, Sri Lanka and Bahrain.


Speed metal
Thrash/speed metal

Difference is small but it's there.


Oh gawd you HAD to bring up Fastkill?

But of course. Alternatively I could've given Znöwhite's Saturday Night for speed and Megadeth's Poison Was the Cure for thrash/speed.
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Postby Galborea » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:27 am

Cadonica wrote:
Galborea wrote:
Oh gawd you HAD to bring up Fastkill?

But of course. Alternatively I could've given Znöwhite's Saturday Night for speed and Megadeth's Poison Was the Cure for thrash/speed.

Well the point was that I absolutely hate Fastkill but whatever.

On a side...just found a band called Monuments that has made some great, tastefully proggy metalcore with more than a hint of djent. Anybody got thoughts?

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Postby Kolmya » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:06 am

Due to my Death Metal spree, I've watched Dawn of the Dead, and the Day of the Dead. Holy shit are they good! I'll go back and watch Night of the Living Dead soon. On a side note, I've been listening to Metal Church.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:18 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Kolmya wrote:Yeah. I think the blacklist works pretty good.

Agreed.

Not having one is why r/Punk gets flooded with Leftover Crack every day.

Normally I'm not into blacklists, but I may have to reconsider that position.
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Postby Kolmya » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:22 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:Agreed.

Not having one is why r/Punk gets flooded with Leftover Crack every day.

Normally I'm not into blacklists, but I may have to reconsider that position.

I think the greenlist works better. Again though, that's probably because very few people go there.
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Postby Cadonica » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:39 am

Kolmya wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Normally I'm not into blacklists, but I may have to reconsider that position.

I think the greenlist works better. Again though, that's probably because very few people go there.

That would be better. Imagine someone new coming to the thread and then people ask what they listen to so they can give recommendations. Good luck trying to tell them when 90% of the bands are blacklisted.

The best way to apply the blacklist is to make them personal. If you don't want to see a certain band/album/genre, put it there yourself. This way you don't need to bother with it but others can still view/link/discuss it. The only downside is that it requires people to tag the stuff they post, otherwise they just slip past said list. That's one reason why I said "RIP Manowar" instead of just "RIP" when I linked their announcement of quitting.
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Postby Kolmya » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:18 am

Cadonica wrote:
Kolmya wrote:I think the greenlist works better. Again though, that's probably because very few people go there.

That would be better. Imagine someone new coming to the thread and then people ask what they listen to so they can give recommendations. Good luck trying to tell them when 90% of the bands are blacklisted.

The best way to apply the blacklist is to make them personal. If you don't want to see a certain band/album/genre, put it there yourself. This way you don't need to bother with it but others can still view/link/discuss it. The only downside is that it requires people to tag the stuff they post, otherwise they just slip past said list. That's one reason why I said "RIP Manowar" instead of just "RIP" when I linked their announcement of quitting.

I don't really think that we would need a blacklist here, because we don't have that many people who come here, which is also why a 'greenlist' would work better.
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Postby Galborea » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:27 am

Kolmya wrote:
Cadonica wrote:That would be better. Imagine someone new coming to the thread and then people ask what they listen to so they can give recommendations. Good luck trying to tell them when 90% of the bands are blacklisted.

The best way to apply the blacklist is to make them personal. If you don't want to see a certain band/album/genre, put it there yourself. This way you don't need to bother with it but others can still view/link/discuss it. The only downside is that it requires people to tag the stuff they post, otherwise they just slip past said list. That's one reason why I said "RIP Manowar" instead of just "RIP" when I linked their announcement of quitting.

I don't really think that we would need a blacklist here, because we don't have that many people who come here, which is also why a 'greenlist' would work better.

Judging from what I'm reading a blacklist is...we do NOT need anything like that.

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Postby Cadonica » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:31 am

Galborea wrote:
Kolmya wrote:I don't really think that we would need a blacklist here, because we don't have that many people who come here, which is also why a 'greenlist' would work better.

Judging from what I'm reading a blacklist is...we do NOT need anything like that.

Besides, yet another problem is: What if a blacklisted band releases a new album?

Easily the most effective way to get around that is for people to fucking post more stuff instead of complaining when the discussion doesn't suit their own interests.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:40 am

Cadonica wrote:
Galborea wrote:Judging from what I'm reading a blacklist is...we do NOT need anything like that.

Besides, yet another problem is: What if a blacklisted band releases a new album?

Easily the most effective way to get around that is for people to fucking post more stuff instead of complaining when the discussion doesn't suit their own interests.

Or be efficient and do both in the same post, because this is the 21st century.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby NeuPolska » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:18 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:Or be efficient and do both in the same post, because this is the 21st century.

*Momentarily stops loading musket*

Wut.

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:29 pm

Galborea wrote:
Cadonica wrote:It was a rhetoric question and I answered it in the same post. If you want to talk about obscure metal and no one else is doing it, bring those bands up instead of wondering why everyone is busy with pop metal. Pop metal as in popular metal, not as a genre because such doesn't really exist.

I will out obscure everyone here! How you might ask. Well, the best way to do that is to go to obscure countries like Algeria, Sri Lanka and Bahrain.


Speed metal
Thrash/speed metal

Difference is small but it's there.


Oh gawd you HAD to bring up Fastkill?

Fastkill is life
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:30 pm

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Postby Galborea » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:50 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Galborea wrote:
Oh gawd you HAD to bring up Fastkill?

Fastkill is life

Fastkill makes me want to vomit. And I thought Municipal Waste was shit. They still are but these guys are almost as bad!


U no like?

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:54 pm

Galborea wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Fastkill is life

Fastkill makes me want to vomit. And I thought Municipal Waste was shit. They still are but these guys are almost as bad!

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Oh god no

U no like?

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Postby Galborea » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:00 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Galborea wrote:Fastkill makes me want to vomit. And I thought Municipal Waste was shit. They still are but these guys are almost as bad!


U no like?

No muny

Why don't you like Dan Swano?

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:07 pm

Galborea wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:No muny

Why don't you like Dan Swano?

Assuming 'muny' is an alternative spelling of money, it seems more logical that Impy loves Dan Swano with a fiery passion, but that he simply lacks the funds to purchase the album you mentioned.
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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:10 pm

Galborea wrote:
Jolthig wrote:How so?

Let me dissect it:

"It's faster than the Four Horsemen": How does that make it better? Can you explain that? If you can explain how in your own opinion that's a superior trait, we're good.
"Plus, Mustaine wrote it:": Same thing really. HOW does that make it a better song? Can you explain that as well?

I prefer faster for that specific song. It's a song meant to be fast, given the punk influences.
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Postby Galborea » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:32 pm

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
Galborea wrote:Let me dissect it:

"It's faster than the Four Horsemen": How does that make it better? Can you explain that? If you can explain how in your own opinion that's a superior trait, we're good.
"Plus, Mustaine wrote it:": Same thing really. HOW does that make it a better song? Can you explain that as well?

I prefer faster for that specific song. It's a song meant to be fast, given the punk influences.

I think I'm slowly turning into a doomfag like Kolmya.
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Listening to the latest album from Steelwing...and I don't like what I'm hearing. Sounds like they're doing a bad King Diamond impression.
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Postby Kolmya » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:38 pm

Galborea wrote:
New Rob Halfordia wrote:I prefer faster for that specific song. It's a song meant to be fast, given the punk influences.

I think I'm slowly turning into a doomfag like Kolmya.

:eyebrow:
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:39 pm

Galborea wrote:
New Rob Halfordia wrote:I prefer faster for that specific song. It's a song meant to be fast, given the punk influences.

I think I'm slowly turning into a doomfag like Kolmya.

Punk? Doom? Here, have a classic Black Flag song.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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