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Postby Forsher » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:25 am

Kannap wrote: Yaz crushing hard on the Doctor.


Now that you say that, I think maybe I remember hearing that before.

Bike riding episode, no. But there have been bike riding scenes a few times on some hill somewhere, where Ryan is trying to learn how to ride a bike to beat his dyspraxia. This is actually the first scene we see Grace, Graham, and Ryan in as Grace has been helping her grandson with this challenge. It's also the last scene we see Graham and Ryan in - IIRC - after they've left the Doctor and Ryan is still trying to beat his dyspraxia in Grace's honor.


Ah, that'll be it.

Anyway... I watched Venom earlier and the way he was running at one point reminded us a bit of the Future Predators from Primeval, which ended up bringing me to this interview:

“[Doctor Who] was a juggernaut at the time, it was a behemoth. We were competitive, of course we were, but I just wanted to do well,” says Hodges. “If we could’ve beaten them that would’ve been great, but that was never really our goal particularly. It was too big a show at that point, it had too much publicity. And Russell T Davies was doing really well with that show at the time, it was brilliantly written. I felt [Doctor Who] was a great show at the time – I think [Primeval would] have a better chance today, let’s put it that way.”


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(not really though, just thought it was interesting)

(EDIT: actually, maybe the subreddit I found that on is trying to start some... "Virgin Doctor Who vs Chad Primeval"... clear criticism of Chibnall!Who.)

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I'm a NuWho heathen, so I have a slightly smaller sample base to work with.

1. Capaldi
2. Smith
3. Tennant
4. Eccleston
5. Whittaker

Hurt ranks in between Tennant and Eccleston, and Martin is one spot beneath him.


I am also a NuWho heathen but I have a very different list:

1. Tennant
2. Eccleston
3. Capaldi in his last series
4. Smith
5. Capaldi in his first two
6. Whittaker

Both 5 and 6 literally made me stop watching the show. Obviously I stomached Capaldi and Clara for longer.

Actually, it'd make more sense as a tier

1. Tennant
2. Eccleston and late Capaldi
3. Smith
4.
5. Capaldi
6. Whittaker

(I have seen some episodes from the original run... mostly Pertwee as I recall.)
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Postby Triassica » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:32 am

1. Tennant
2. Smith
3. Capladi
4. Whittaker
5. Eccleston

Ooh. Controversial and contrarian, I know, and I actually like Eccleston as the Doctor as all the others. Just wish he had a longer tenure on the TV show. His single series makes him feel more like a footnote, similar to Paul McGann, but more successful.
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Postby Forsher » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:27 pm

Triassica wrote:1. Tennant
2. Smith
3. Capladi
4. Whittaker
5. Eccleston

Ooh. Controversial and contrarian, I know, and I actually like Eccleston as the Doctor as all the others. Just wish he had a longer tenure on the TV show. His single series makes him feel more like a footnote, similar to Paul McGann, but more successful.


I don't like Eccleston all that much myself, either. It's just that I also don't like Smith all that much, either.

Plus I always spell his name wrong.
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Postby Skylus » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:32 pm

Have any of you watched (maybe even played?) the Lego Dimensions Doctor Who level pack? It’s of the 12th season so with Capladi. I thought it was cool.
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Postby Kannap » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:33 pm

Look, I still don't have a lot of hope for Chibnall's showrunning and direction but that trailer was insane and I'm lowkey excited as hell for new Doctor Who for the first time in a while.

We'll have to see, we'll have to see.
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Postby Philjia » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:53 pm

I live in perpetual hope of an interesting Doctor Who story.

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Kannap wrote:Look, I still don't have a lot of hope for Chibnall's showrunning and direction but that trailer was insane and I'm lowkey excited as hell for new Doctor Who for the first time in a while.

We'll have to see, we'll have to see.

The trailer for his first season looked exciting as well.

And look how that turned out...
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:14 am

Boom, TARDIS lamp.
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My brother gave me that. It even makes the takeoff noise when you open the doors.

Which has also finally motivated me to catch up like I said.


Tesla's Night Of Terror: Not bad.

Fugitive Of The Judoon: Oh, fucking Chibnall...
So unoriginal you gotta poach the forgotten regeneration angle, huh? Why am I not shocked?

Praxeus: Oh, goody gumdrops. It's another installment of "Chibnall wants to preach". The heavy-handed political message this episode is *rolls dice* OCEAN PLASTICS! Christ, am I glad he's gonna be gone soon.

Can You Hear Me: Neat concept, ruined by both bad guys being completely lacking in menace. The finger guy was just goofy, and the girl immortal looked like a bad Nicki Minaj cosplayer. Not to mention them beating the bad guys with like 10 minutes left, and using those spare 10 minutes on Yaz's completely uninteresting backstory.

The Haunting of Villa Diodati: Now that was neat. Frankenstein allegory with a Cyberman. And also, that's how you do a half finished Cyberman. Looking at you, Torchwood.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:32 pm

And I am all caught up. Fucking Chibnall.
Yeah, let's just up and ignore like 50 plus years of established lore and just say The Doctor has always existed.


This fucking guy.
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So, new series starts today.

At least it will only be 8 episodes.
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New yugoslavaia wrote:So, new series starts today.

At least it will only be 8 episodes.

6.
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Ameriganastan wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:So, new series starts today.

At least it will only be 8 episodes.

6.


Very British.
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It begins...
Yugoslavia's back baby...

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Postby Philjia » Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:20 pm

There was a lot of stuff in that.

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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:34 pm

Philjia wrote:There was a lot of stuff in that.


Indeed.

At least this one was an actual story and not a PSA in disguise.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:16 pm

There was a lot of different shit going on and a big part of me is confused but I'm looking forward to see how all these things get tied together through the rest of the story.

The pacing was a bit weird and the jumping around to different people and storylines was a little shaky....

....Other than that, that was fucking good Doctor Who - color me impressed, just hope they can keep up this quality or better for the next five episodes.
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New yugoslavaia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:6.


Very British.


The 1st and 5th series of rival programme Primeval ran that long, and the 2nd and 4th only had 7 episodes.


Pretty Good Episode Actually.

Great action scene for the opening.

Nice twist with the doglike aliens.

Good that Yaz actually got some character development and interactions with the doctor for a change. There hasn't been much focusing on her since Demons of The Punjab back in 2018.

Special effects for them were pretty good too, and it's nice to see some doglike aliens after seeing several catlike aliens like the Cheetah People from the classic series and the catkind from NuWho.

Had a few too many subplots IMHO, with the weeping angel/Claire stuff and the crystal alien stuff in addition to the main Flux plotline.

Nice Cliffhanger ending.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:28 pm

I didnt watch it tonight as i was socialising with my Familia so ill catch it tomorrow through iplayer.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:49 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Philjia wrote:There was a lot of stuff in that.


Indeed.

At least this one was an actual story and not a PSA in disguise.


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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:55 pm

Much better than I was expecting; likely the best Chibnall-era episode by some distance.

But it was elaborate set-up rather than an independent story; the question is whether he can resolve it.


Small Sontaran spoiler:

I thought the use of Sontarans, though brief, neatly bridged their classic role as brave warriors with their recent role as comic relief; with more emphasis on the former, but enough of the latter to round out the race a bit. It was the sort of small 'spirit of Who' detail Chibnall has struggled with previously, but worked well here.



Spoilered prediction over episode's main antagonist:

'Swarm' does suggest some connection to Fourth Doctor-era enemy The Swarm in The Invisible Enemy (K9!), but if so is very upgraded over dodgy 1970s alien design. Regardless of any connection there, the reminiscence of past battles that the Doctor doesn't remember and Swarm claims to have erased suggests a connection with the Timeless Child. If Chibnall can somehow resolve that one too, then, well... More power to him, even if I'm not optimistic.


Edit: Hmmmm; not sure that name for the main antagonist is reliable. It's used in a couple of online sources, but I don't think it was used in the episode. Best not to make assumptions there, I think.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:21 pm

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New yugoslavaia wrote:
Indeed.

At least this one was an actual story and not a PSA in disguise.


"Weapons of massive destruction capable of being deployed within forty-five seconds."

And?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:36 pm

Turns out I missed the New Years special. So...did people just forget "The Stolen Earth/Journey's End" or something? Not one person saw mass produced Daleks on TV and thought to bring that up? Christ, Chibnall is a hack writer.
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Postby Triassica » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:52 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Turns out I missed the New Years special. So...did people just forget "The Stolen Earth/Journey's End" or something? Not one person saw mass produced Daleks on TV and thought to bring that up? Christ, Chibnall is a hack writer.

That is actually Moffat's fault with his Cracks Arc erasing all previous alien encounters.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:57 pm

Triassica wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Turns out I missed the New Years special. So...did people just forget "The Stolen Earth/Journey's End" or something? Not one person saw mass produced Daleks on TV and thought to bring that up? Christ, Chibnall is a hack writer.

That is actually Moffat's fault with his Cracks Arc erasing all previous alien encounters.

Oh, right...well, I'm still gonna blame Chibnall anyway.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:53 pm

I swear, I'm gonna need closed captioning to understand this new guy...

EDIT: Damn, Chibnall. Where was this kind of writing in like, any other episode you wrote during your run? I daresay I'm actually interested where this is going.
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