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Postby Juristonia » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:27 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:They really need to cut the political rubbish from the show, doctor who isn't supposed to be some deep and meaningful educational show that challenges your beliefs or whatever, it's supposed to be a show about a guy in a blue box who travels in time and space.

I mean, if you've literally never watched the show before, ever, sure.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:04 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:They really need to cut the political rubbish from the show, doctor who isn't supposed to be some deep and meaningful educational show that challenges your beliefs or whatever, it's supposed to be a show about a guy in a blue box who travels in time and space.

I mean, if you've literally never watched the show before, ever, sure.


Hell, the whole point of the original historical episodes was edutainment. Then the Daleks happened.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:02 am

You know, "The Unicorn And The Wasp" isn't as terrible as I remember.
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Postby Philjia » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:37 am

Ameriganastan wrote:You know, "The Unicorn And The Wasp" isn't as terrible as I remember.

The Unicorn and The Wasp is a lot of fun, shame it was written by Gareth Roberts.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:51 am

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Juristonia wrote:I mean, if you've literally never watched the show before, ever, sure.


Hell, the whole point of the original historical episodes was edutainment. Then the Daleks happened.

I've watched every episode of the new series, and the only reason I haven't watched the classic series is because the bbc hasn't re-issued them with audio description like they said they were going to do several times.
However, I've read a lot of the novelisations and listened to many of the big finish audio adventures featuring classic doctors. My doctor who audio collection (every big finish, every new series with AD, every audio book) is over 200 gb.

I think I've watched quite a bit.
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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Hell, the whole point of the original historical episodes was edutainment. Then the Daleks happened.

I've watched every episode of the new series, and the only reason I haven't watched the classic series is because the bbc hasn't re-issued them with audio description like they said they were going to do several times.
However, I've read a lot of the novelisations and listened to many of the big finish audio adventures featuring classic doctors. My doctor who audio collection (every big finish, every new series with AD, every audio book) is over 200 gb.

I think I've watched quite a bit.


That doesn't change the fact that the show has had political commentary for a long time.
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Vassenor wrote:
That doesn't change the fact that the show has had political commentary for a long time.

Ugh. As I've repeated like 6 times to you now, the mere presence of political stuff isn't the issue. It's how overbearing Chibnall made it last season.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:43 pm

What I'm curious about why our old friend Worzel showed up in the trailer?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:04 am

Damn, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood 2 parter is almost not set in the future anymore.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:45 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
That doesn't change the fact that the show has had political commentary for a long time.

Ugh. As I've repeated like 6 times to you now, the mere presence of political stuff isn't the issue. It's how overbearing Chibnall made it last season.

There was literally no need for them to play "Rise Up" at the end of the Rosa Parks episode instead of the regular theme song.
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Ameriganastan wrote:Ugh. As I've repeated like 6 times to you now, the mere presence of political stuff isn't the issue. It's how overbearing Chibnall made it last season.

There was literally no need for them to play "Rise Up" at the end of the Rosa Parks episode instead of the regular theme song.

Amen to that. Just pushed the episode into unprecedented levels of cheese.


On the subject of crappy political episodes, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood is that shitty Zygon 2 parter done way better. Just noticed that.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:01 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I've watched every episode of the new series, and the only reason I haven't watched the classic series is because the bbc hasn't re-issued them with audio description like they said they were going to do several times.
However, I've read a lot of the novelisations and listened to many of the big finish audio adventures featuring classic doctors. My doctor who audio collection (every big finish, every new series with AD, every audio book) is over 200 gb.

I think I've watched quite a bit.


That doesn't change the fact that the show has had political commentary for a long time.

When someone complains about political messages in media, they are never saying that they do not want politics on media or that politics never used to be in media. They are simply taking issue with the particular message being communicated or the way in which it is being communicated.
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The Two Jerseys wrote:There was literally no need for them to play "Rise Up" at the end of the Rosa Parks episode instead of the regular theme song.

Amen to that. Just pushed the episode into unprecedented levels of cheese.

The whole episode was just a generic "stop the time-traveling bad guy from changing history" plot, you could replace the Doctor and companions with the cast of Timeless and it wouldn't make a difference.
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Ameriganastan wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:There was literally no need for them to play "Rise Up" at the end of the Rosa Parks episode instead of the regular theme song.

Amen to that. Just pushed the episode into unprecedented levels of cheese.


On the subject of crappy political episodes, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood is that shitty Zygon 2 parter done way better. Just noticed that.

You mean the season 9 Zygon 2-parter? I liked that one.
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The Two Jerseys wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Amen to that. Just pushed the episode into unprecedented levels of cheese.

The whole episode was just a generic "stop the time-traveling bad guy from changing history" plot, you could replace the Doctor and companions with the cast of Timeless and it wouldn't make a difference.

Pretty much.

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Ameriganastan wrote:Amen to that. Just pushed the episode into unprecedented levels of cheese.


On the subject of crappy political episodes, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood is that shitty Zygon 2 parter done way better. Just noticed that.

You mean the season 9 Zygon 2-parter? I liked that one.

Yes, that one. I hated it. Boring, overly political, turned UNIT into moutbreathing dumbasses, that overly long speech, the complete ignoring of the logistics involved with dumping an entire species on a planet already in a resource strain. It was terrible.
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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
That doesn't change the fact that the show has had political commentary for a long time.

When someone complains about political messages in media, they are never saying that they do not want politics on media or that politics never used to be in media. They are simply taking issue with the particular message being communicated or the way in which it is being communicated.


Usually "this show is airing a message that disagrees with me and might make people disagree with me".
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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:When someone complains about political messages in media, they are never saying that they do not want politics on media or that politics never used to be in media. They are simply taking issue with the particular message being communicated or the way in which it is being communicated.


Usually "this show is airing a message that disagrees with me and might make people disagree with me".

No, more like "we came to watch fiction with subtle political commentary in the plot, not SNL parodies of Donald Trump".
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The Two Jerseys wrote:No, more like "we came to watch fiction with subtle political commentary in the plot, not SNL parodies of Donald Trump".

Precisely.
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Christmas felt a bit weird without having an episode to watch, but here's hoping the new series is a lot better than the last one.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:55 am

Kannap wrote:Christmas felt a bit weird without having an episode to watch, but here's hoping the new series is a lot better than the last one.

I mean, you can watch an episode now. They've been running a marathon for like 3 days. They just got to the Pandorica.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:44 am

Watching "Asylum Of The Daleks" just reminds me how much Clara devolved as she kept appearing. I miss this fun Clara.
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Ameriganastan wrote:Watching "Asylum Of The Daleks" just reminds me how much Clara devolved as she kept appearing. I miss this fun Clara.

I think they just tried to do way too much with her and i think kind of lost it near the end
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Did the last series pick up at all? I watched the first few and I thought they were generally well written in terms of emotional depth, drama, overarching plot (although the Doc felt off, very nicey-nice mumsy primary school teacher)...but it just wasn't fun and in the end I stopped bothering to watch.
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Postby Philjia » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:56 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Did the last series pick up at all? I watched the first few and I thought they were generally well written in terms of emotional depth, drama, overarching plot (although the Doc felt off, very nicey-nice mumsy primary school teacher)...but it just wasn't fun and in the end I stopped bothering to watch.

It Takes You Away was enjoyably weird, the rest was pretty flat.

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Did the last series pick up at all?

Nope.
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