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Postby Philjia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:08 pm


The ratings are entirely consistent with every other New-Who Doctor's first series, including Capaldi. Once the series is over I'll put the comparative episode by episode ratings comparison graph I've been compiling up, but I can tell you right now all the talk about big gains or losses in viewers are stupid and overstated.
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:19 pm

I'd say that was a decent end to the series. I'm more curious about the new years special "The DNA of the most dangerous creature in the universe" wonder what that could mean... wait I know the sletheen.
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Postby Philjia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:33 pm

Decent end to the series, reasonably tense but dragged down by constant expositing as many Chibnall stories are.

Stupid didactic deontologist Doctor.
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Postby Little Tin Hat » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:33 pm

Philjia wrote:Decent end to the series, reasonably tense but dragged down by constant expositing as many Chibnall stories are.

thought the episode tried to have the enigmatic edge of 'The Prisoner' - which it failed miserably at and it became an incoherant mess. In many ways the shows have been amongst the worst I've seen. Having said that Bradley Walsh is amongst the best companions I've seen.

Stupid didactic deontologist Doctor.


After looking that up yep - the script miserably tries to explain the situation with long winded bullshit - leave it be, the phrase- less is more is appropriate. the standout episodes- rosa parkes- but too preachy. The Indian one and the ghost monument. Hopefully, the next series will be better and this doctor comes of age and isn't as irritating and the New Year one doesn't give me indigestion.

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Postby Philjia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:37 pm

Little Tin Hat wrote:
Philjia wrote:Decent end to the series, reasonably tense but dragged down by constant expositing as many Chibnall stories are.

thought the episode tried to have the enigmatic edge of 'The Prisoner' - which it failed miserably at and it became an incoherant mess. In many ways the shows have been amongst the worst I've seen. Having said that Bradley Walsh is amongst the best companions I've seen.

Stupid didactic deontologist Doctor.


After looking that up yep - the script miserably tries to explain the situation with long winded bullshit - leave it be, the phrase- less is more is appropriate. the standout episodes- rosa parkes- but too preachy. The Indian one and the ghost monument. Hopefully, the next series will be better and this doctor comes of age and isn't as irritating and the New Year one doesn't give me indigestion.

The New Year's special is obviously going to have the Daleks in it, so 13's shallow morals in regards to violence are have to going to be challenged or ignored. I'd prefer the former but the latter's easier so I wouldn't put it past Chibnall to choose it.
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Postby Ther Sul Citzpacia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:54 pm

Nice call with the Daleks- especially as they said there wouldn't be any of the old monsters in the series. Hopefully, you're right and the script is taut and Wilfrid Mott wouldn't go amiss: his reaction to the Doctor being a woman might be amusing. Almost looking forward to it now.

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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Ther Sul Citzpacia wrote:Nice call with the Daleks- especially as they said there wouldn't be any of the old monsters in the series. Hopefully, you're right and the script is taut and Wilfrid Mott wouldn't go amiss: his reaction to the Doctor being a woman might be amusing. Almost looking forward to it now.


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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:40 pm

Wait, there's going to be daleks? Only saw the next time.
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New yugoslavaia wrote:Wait, there's going to be daleks? Only saw the next time.

There was a longer trailer afterwards that mentioned "the most dangerous creature in the universe", but wasn't shown or named. Hmmm, I wonder what that could possibly be? [/s]
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:50 pm

What if it's a time lord??????
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:53 pm

Thus ends the most mediocre series. Not a single episode I'd call good, let alone great.

I trust that all the people in this thread who spent its entirety moaning about Moffat are feeling suitably silly.
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Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Thus ends the most mediocre series. Not a single episode I'd call good, let alone great.

I trust that all the people in this thread who spent its entirety moaning about Moffat are feeling suitably silly.

Moffat's episodes were worse than Chibnall's (although they were more fascinatingly awful) but under Moffat there tended to be more good episodes from other writers. (Aside from the thoroughly rubbish Series 7 and Series 9)
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Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Thus ends the most mediocre series. Not a single episode I'd call good, let alone great.

I trust that all the people in this thread who spent its entirety moaning about Moffat are feeling suitably silly.


Not really this series has been much better than the last few. But one thing you can't debate is you could understand these episodes which is more than I can say about Moffat's series.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:02 pm

Philjia wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Wait, there's going to be daleks? Only saw the next time.

There was a longer trailer afterwards that mentioned "the most dangerous creature in the universe", but wasn't shown or named. Hmmm, I wonder what that could possibly be? [/s]


At least they're trying to keep it a secret.

Also, dalek vs tank when?
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Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Thus ends the most mediocre series. Not a single episode I'd call good, let alone great.

I trust that all the people in this thread who spent its entirety moaning about Moffat are feeling suitably silly.


Not really this series has been much better than the last few. But one thing you can't debate is you could understand these episodes which is more than I can say about Moffat's series.

I feel the exact opposite. Moffat occasionally got rather self-indulgent, but even his self-indulgent episodes usually hung together as coherent, competent narratives. This season? Not so much.
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Earthbound immortal squad wrote:What if it's a time lord??????


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Postby Little Tin Hat » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:29 pm

If not the Daleks, the only one who might come close would probably have to be the Master- which fits with the mention of the Time Lords.

I personally wouldn't mind seeing the Ice warriors, cybermen and the Yeti(vague memory of them being down the London Underground) again some time in the future.

what about you lot?

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Postby Philjia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:25 pm

Little Tin Hat wrote:If not the Daleks, the only one who might come close would probably have to be the Master- which fits with the mention of the Time Lords.

I personally wouldn't mind seeing the Ice warriors, cybermen and the Yeti(vague memory of them being down the London Underground) again some time in the future.

what about you lot?

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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:22 pm

It was a rocky way to start the Chibnall era. In order of episodes:

Liked
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Breaks even for me. The good episodes were enjoyable, and the bad ones were beyond preachy and annoying. I'm hoping he evolves past the preachy part by next season. Anyway, okay season.
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Postby Triassica » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:33 pm

So I'm expecting Daleks next year and the Full episode title to be Resolution of the Daleks. Why else would they cut away before the Doctor names the most dangerous creature in the Universe...

Unless...

It's either Weeping Angels... nah, the trailer didnt feel it.
Or... the Master... Maybe... least likely...
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For God's sake, it better not be the Weeping Angels. They need to stay gone.
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Postby Triassica » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:48 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:For God's sake, it better not be the Weeping Angels. They need to stay gone.

How the fuck do you get the DNA of an angel anyway?
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Skylus wrote:When are we gonna see the Master/Missy again?

When Chibnall finds a way to work her into a preachy SJW episode.
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