The (Regenerated) Doctor Who Thread: Reverse the Polarity!

[Tokuopolis]

You posted this twice. But anyway, yeah that's it Xmas special this year and a new season in 2017. Astro probably hasn't updated it yet.

It's perfectly well updated: as we're getting a Christmas special, Doctor Who is returning this year. We're just not getting a new season of it.

Better clarify that. "Doctor Who Will Return with a Christmas special in 2016", or something similar.

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I've been having a look into the Sarah Jane Adventures, and thinking about why it went through seasonal rot (at least in my opinion). Watching TARDIS Archives review of his top 10 SJA episodes, made my realise something. The nightmare man recycled elements from older stories (Luke having nightmares which was in enemy of the bane, the season 2 finale) and the nightmare man was similar to odd bob (the alien clown in day of the clown) as well as the dreamlord from Amy's Choice (which aired the same year). Was it a nice send off for Luke? Well, yes, the ending was. But I feel they could have gone for a more original storyline to go along with it. I guess why did get to see some more of the alternate dimensions, which SJA hadn't done as much before, but again we saw it in Amy's choice(a large majority if SJA's audience watches both shows, and considering SJA's use of aliens like the Slitheen, the Judoon, (both of which appeared 2 years prior to their SJA appearances), The Graske, The Sontarans and the MIB androids, is especially confusing). If you do like all of the nightmare man, then more power to you. I'm glad you were able to enjoy it more than I was.

I personally would have had an artificially created superhuman MOTW, and Luke wondering whether he's any different from it. Or if the plot has to be closer to what we got, have odd bob escape or another member(s) of his species land on earth, trapping Luke in a state of fear to use him as a hostage. Also, I would have had the episode where androvax returned as the series 3 finale, as opposed the second episode of series 4, and I'd get rid of the subplot with Rani's parents.

[Astrolinium]

New poll up.

[Charellia]

I expect I'm courting controversy, but Series 6 was by far the best.

[Tokuopolis]

I expect I'm courting controversy, but Series 6 was by far the best.

IMO, that was a pretty good series. But I can see why others dislike it More info here. Looking at that article, I'm surprised Tennant's take on the doctor has become so iconic, what with series 2 & 3 being called seasonal rot. But then again, each and every dr who fan is a one-person broken base.

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Btw, I was watching shogungino's review of Starchaser: the legend of Orin and I spotted the name of the villain in the film is Zygon, the name of a race of aliens in dr who. I wonder if this was intentional (it already an infamous animated feature ripping off Star Wars, so I wonder if it was intentional. The film came out 1985, and terror if the zygons appeared a decade prior, so it's possible). He doesn't mention it at all, despite including a clip from the Tom Baker series in the video and, in another review, saying that the stories in Star Wars droids were like a doctor who serial.

[Osnil]

I expect I'm courting controversy, but Series 6 was by far the best.

Season Five is the first; first is best.

[Chelta]

I expect I'm courting controversy, but Series 6 was by far the best.

Series 6 was my favourite, but I think Series 5 was best in terms of overall quality. (I voted for Series 6)

[The Texan Union]

Series 9 had the least Moffat, and is therefore the best.

[Osnil]

I'm going to present a contraversy, but do y'all think the Borg from Star Trek could beat Daleks in a fair battle (no time travel, ect.)?

[Conscentia]

I'm going to present a contraversy, but do y'all think the Borg from Star Trek could beat Daleks in a fair battle (no time travel, ect.)?

Yes. Their shields would adapt to the Dalek gunstick fire, and I doubt Daleks are immune to assimilation.

[Osnil]

I'm going to present a contraversy, but do y'all think the Borg from Star Trek could beat Daleks in a fair battle (no time travel, ect.)?

Yes. Their shields would adapt to the Dalek gunstick fire, and I doubt Daleks are immune to assimilation.

And then comes the Emergency Temporal Shift where the Daleks cheat and go back in time to wreck the Borg.

[Conscentia]

Yes. Their shields would adapt to the Dalek gunstick fire, and I doubt Daleks are immune to assimilation.

And then comes the Emergency Temporal Shift where the Daleks cheat and go back in time to wreck the Borg.

1. You said "no time travel".
2. Dalek time travel is unlikely to be an existential threat to the Borg, given that the exact origins of the Borg are uncertain and it's doubtful the Daleks would be able to learn it before being assimilated.
3. The Borg are also capable of time travel. (Star Trek: First Contact)

[Charellia]

I'm going to present a contraversy, but do y'all think the Borg from Star Trek could beat Daleks in a fair battle (no time travel, ect.)?

Yes. Their shields would adapt to the Dalek gunstick fire, and I doubt Daleks are immune to assimilation.

Daleks have their own assimilation-like technology, which they could potentially deploy against the Borg. They also have artificial immune systems which could negate the effectiveness of Borg nanoprobes.

Also, have we ever seen the Borg assimilate non-humanoids?

[Conscentia]

Yes. Their shields would adapt to the Dalek gunstick fire, and I doubt Daleks are immune to assimilation.

Daleks have their own assimilation-like technology, which they could potentially deploy against the Borg. They also have artificial immune systems which could negate the effectiveness of Borg nanoprobes.

Also, have we ever seen the Borg assimilate non-humanoids?

I'd imagine the Borg would just adapt, and assimilate the Dalek's own technology. I haven't seen anything to indicate that Daleks have particularly amazing immune systems, and according to the TARDIS wikia the Daleks are susceptible to viral bio-weapons as they were subject to one in an episode of the classic series. Given that humans have been converted into Daleks before and that they're already cyborgs anyway, I'd say they must be compatible with cybernetics and therefore suitable for Borg assimilation.

We've never seen non-humanoid Borg in any of the TV series (as far as I know), but they are willing to assimilate non-humanoids as shown by them trying to assimilate species 8472 in Voyager.

[Tokuopolis]

I'm going to present a controversy, but do y'all think the Borg from Star Trek could beat Daleks in a fair battle (no time travel, ect.)?

My friend said the daleks were seen to be assimilated in Dr who/star trek the next generation assimilation 2, but they weren't (at least in the print version which I've got). He read the digital version which possibly had some changes. or he saw this picture. He says he thinks the daleks wouldn't be assimilated anyway.

[The Foxes Swamp]

dunno the best but the last series was the worst ever

[Tokuopolis]

dunno the best but the last series was the worst ever

I thought it was an improvement over the series before that. The latter half of the last series wasn't so good. I quite enjoyed the first 2 series of Matt Smith's tenure.

[Chelta]

dunno the best but the last series was the worst ever

Your opinion is wrong. I rank it as the 3rd best, after Series 5 and 4.

[The Texan Union]

dunno the best but the last series was the worst ever

Your opinion is wrong. I rank it as the 3rd best, after Series 5 and 4.

Agreed.

[Nation of Quebec]

Series 9 for me. Series 9 had some really great episodes and no terrible romance subplot to drag it down like Series 8. Hm, my rankings for Moffat's series would be:

Series 9
Series 6
Series 8 tied with 5
Series 7

As you can tell, the romance really killed Series 8 for me. If that and Danny Pink weren't in it, Series 8 would have been higher. That still doesn't change the fact that Capaldi is amazing as The Doctor and I hope he finally breaks the "Troughton Rule". He should stay until at least Series 11.

[The Foxes Swamp]

Your opinion is wrong. I rank it as the 3rd best, after Series 5 and 4.

Agreed.

[New Waterford]

I think Series 9 was the best, although that was mostly due to the non-Moffat episodes.

I'd say Moffat himself was at his best in Series 5.

[The Texan Union]

I think Series 9 was the best, although that was mostly due to the non-Moffat episodes.

I'd say Moffat himself was at his best in Series 5.

True, true.

[Tokuopolis]

I just noticed something. Every time there's a new red dwarf series after the dr who revival, dr who content plummets.
2009: new red dwarf miniseries, just dr who specials (and series 3 of SJA & TW)
2012: new red dwarf series, half of a doctor who series
2016: new red dwarf series, no new dr who (except for the class spin off and Xmas special)
And red dwarf was originally commissioned toward the end of dr who's original life cycle. I wonder if there's a connection. Probably not.

[The Texan Union]

I just noticed something. Every time there's a new red dwarf series after the dr who revival, dr who content plummets.
2009: new red dwarf miniseries, just dr who specials (and series 3 of SJA & TW)
2012: new red dwarf series, half of a doctor who series
2016: new red dwarf series, no new dr who (except for the class spin off and Xmas special)
And red dwarf was originally commissioned toward the end of dr who's original life cycle. I wonder if there's a connection. Probably not.

Most likely a coincidence, but interesting nonetheless. Is Red Dwarf any go- Woops. Nevermind.

They took it all off Netflix.

[Tokuopolis]

I just noticed something. Every time there's a new red dwarf series after the dr who revival, dr who content plummets.
2009: new red dwarf miniseries, just dr who specials (and series 3 of SJA & TW)
2012: new red dwarf series, half of a doctor who series
2016: new red dwarf series, no new dr who (except for the class spin off and Xmas special)
And red dwarf was originally commissioned toward the end of dr who's original life cycle. I wonder if there's a connection. Probably not.

Most likely a coincidence, but interesting nonetheless. Is Red Dwarf any go- Woops. Nevermind.

They took it all off Netflix.

The first 4 seasons of RD are on the UK version of Netflix. Perhaps due to having a similar target audience to doctor who, the BBC doesn't want Doctor Who to enter a more competitive market.

In 2009, there was Being Human, the 2nd series of merlin and Ashes to Ashes, the first series of Being Human, the 3rd series of SJA and TW, the 3rd series of Primeval, the final series of Battlestar Galactica, the new series of Red Dwarf, the 2nd series of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, The new star trek movie, the Australian K-9 series and The Prisoner miniseries.

In 2012, there was Wizards vs Aliens, the penultimate series of Being Human and Misfits, the final series of Merlin, Gravity falls on Disney XD (arguable example), the final series of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and the first series of Primeval New World.

And this year, there is a new red dwarf, the aliens, the new Star Trek movie, and Class (I'm sure there are more than these, but I was picking the ones I can remember).