The (Regenerated) Doctor Who Thread: Reverse the Polarity!

[Auristania]

Best episode yet. Very pretty Remembrance Day theme. 100th anniversary of WWI.

Again, no obligatory whinge at guns.

Glaring plot hole

The Vicar is dead, Aliens stand over the corpse, there is no OBVIOuS cause of death, but the corpse IS surrounded by glowing Alien tech.

So the obvious assumption is that the murder was done by Aliens in the Forest with the Alien-tech. But the resolution is

Manish in the Forest with the rifle.WTF??? They can't see bullet holes. Screwdriver cannot detect bullet-holes.

Star Trek Voyager 1936 Amelia Earhart: Voyager finds a 1936 farm truck with dung floating in Space. Belanna's tricorder cannot identify the dung. Neelix the sooper-dooper expert explorer cannot identify the dung.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Decent episode.

Man, Yaz gets screwed for screentime even in her own episode. Nice ending, but slow middle.

[Philjia]

It's occurred to me that there was a lot of stuff in Demons of the Punjab nicked from Twice Upon a Time. It's not nearly as bad as Twice Upon a Time though, despite the acting being much worse.

[Earthbound Immortal Squad]

Best episode yet. Very pretty Remembrance Day theme. 100th anniversary of WWI.

Again, no obligatory whinge at guns.

Glaring plot hole

The Vicar is dead, Aliens stand over the corpse, there is no OBVIOuS cause of death, but the corpse IS surrounded by glowing Alien tech.

So the obvious assumption is that the murder was done by Aliens in the Forest with the Alien-tech. But the resolution is

Manish in the Forest with the rifle.WTF??? They can't see bullet holes. Screwdriver cannot detect bullet-holes.

Star Trek Voyager 1936 Amelia Earhart: Voyager finds a 1936 farm truck with dung floating in Space. Belanna's tricorder cannot identify the dung. Neelix the sooper-dooper expert explorer cannot identify the dung.

Yep that's B'elanna for you can't find dung but can go to and from the Klingon afterlife.

[Ameriganastan]

For fucks sake, this season is starting to piss me off. STOP WITH THE POLITICAL EPISODES. I'm not here for that. I'm here to have FUN. This was a heavy-handed slog of an episode. Not to mention the incredibly lame ass design of the aliens.

[Tokuopolis]

Good episode and gave us some good character moments for Yaz

alien design was pretty good, like a multi eyed bat

[Crysuko]

i liked the idea that they're essentially redeeming themselves for being assassins, by witnessing and recording the deaths of the lonely

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

For fucks sake, this season is starting to piss me off. STOP WITH THE POLITICAL EPISODES. I'm not here for that. I'm here to have FUN. This was a heavy-handed slog of an episode. Not to mention the incredibly lame ass design of the aliens.

The partition of India is hardly topical.

[Philjia]

For fucks sake, this season is starting to piss me off. STOP WITH THE POLITICAL EPISODES. I'm not here for that. I'm here to have FUN. This was a heavy-handed slog of an episode. Not to mention the incredibly lame ass design of the aliens.

It's just what Doctor Who does occasionally most of the time, to be honest, ever since 1966 and the broadcast of the sadly missing The Massacre of Bartholomew's Eve, about the persecution of Huguenots by Catholics in sixteenth century France.

[Nea Videssos]

For fucks sake, this season is starting to piss me off. STOP WITH THE POLITICAL EPISODES. I'm not here for that. I'm here to have FUN. This was a heavy-handed slog of an episode. Not to mention the incredibly lame ass design of the aliens.

I forced myself to watch up as far the one with the spiders, but needless to say, I think I've pretty much given up on Doctor Who as it currently is. Shame, even with Moffat leading it downhill over the past few years (particularly with Moffat thinking that he was cleverer than he actually was, and all that "I'M THE DOCTOR, WATCH OUT VILLAIN-OF-THE-WEEK" egowank stuff), I think it was better than Chibnall's new Doctor Who (personally, I preferred it when Russel T. Davies was in charge, to either of them). I used to look forward to each episode of Doctor Who, but the mediocrity, awkward acting, bad writing and political-point scoring going on now is a bit too much to keep putting up with, in my opinion.

[Nation of Quebec]

Doctor Who has always been political so I don't know why it's suddenly such an issue now. Seems like an odd complaint to make for longtime fans.

I thought it was a serviceable episode with a refreshing new alien species with an unique motivation.

[New Excalibus]

Doctor Who has always been political so I don't know why it's suddenly such an issue now. Seems like an odd complaint to make for longtime fans.

I thought it was a serviceable episode with a refreshing new alien species with an unique motivation.

Someone should make an issue mocking Doctor Who and it's mediocrity to some viewers, in which you choose between setting a mandatory seal of approval on all TV Series, and just leaving it as it is.

[Ameriganastan]

The partition of India is hardly topical.

We all know it wasn't really about the partition. I get it. Muslim people are just like us. I don't need Chibnall bashing me over the head with it every other episode.

It's just what Doctor Who does occasionally most of the time, to be honest, ever since 1966 and the broadcast of the sadly missing The Massacre of Bartholomew's Eve, about the persecution of Huguenots by Catholics in sixteenth century France.

We're 6 episodes in. And 3 of those 6 have been some blunt force trauma levels of direct with the politics. It's getting just a wee bit frustrating.

Doctor Who has always been political so I don't know why it's suddenly such an issue now. Seems like an odd complaint to make for longtime fans.

I thought it was a serviceable episode with a refreshing new alien species with an unique motivation.

Yes, and that was tolerable when it was spaced out. He's not spacing it out. The whole "Humans are the real monsters" thing is fun every once in a while. Not every other episode.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Good episode, if a bit slow, but i liked it.

Request in Patches Prem, you were a good guy, your brother Manesh was a dickhead hopped up on idiotic us vs them mentality bullshit.

Acting was good, i like that Yaz got more of a focus again, but she is still my least favourite of the companions with Graham still being my favourite.

I liked the assassin alien design, and their focus on observing and remembering the unknown about deaths of people across the universe, i liked that, but they kind of just.. didnt do anything after that was revealed, they just disappeared until the very end, thought they maybe could have done something with them until then. Though i did like that scene where they had the holograms of all these human faces in their hive.

Plot wholes though, namely two of them. Surely Yaz's grandmother would have recognised her being the same random muslim girl who showed up with three others before her first husband died and "Demons" were going about? Thought maybe that should have come up at the end of the episode, yeah granted it was a long time ago, but surely an event like that would stay with her for... well ever really.

Also the holy man died due to a rifle.. but they didnt notice a rifle wound? And there was no sign he was bludgeoned to death either with the butt of the rifle... so.. yeah that was a mistake.

Looking forward to what happens next week in Amazon warehouse world.

[Earthbound Immortal Squad]

Doctor Who has always been political so I don't know why it's suddenly such an issue now. Seems like an odd complaint to make for longtime fans.

I thought it was a serviceable episode with a refreshing new alien species with an unique motivation.

Thank you it's nice to know someone else can see Doctor who has political messages I mean most of the Davies era episodes had a message of sorts however they were subtler then. At the end of the day though Doctor who is mainly focused for families aka including young children the way I see it if a young child can understand the episode and either enjoy/be terrified by it then it's good enough for me.

Personally I think this is a situation of nostalgia clinging (if that's even a real term) it's where someone see's something new but a branch of something else and because it isn't that original thing it's automatically rubbish. I've noticed this with both star wars and star trek in star wars a lot of the original generation automatically hated the prequels because it wasn't exactly like the originals and in star trek there are people who if you talk to them about any other series but the original or next generation they will automatically assume it is terrible.

[Forsher]

Well that was rather dull and woodenly performed. (The discrepancy between past and present Umbreen's accent was quite funny as well) The monster design and concept was really nice, but the realisation didn't really do it justice, and the episode's actual plot was more hindered than helped by their presence. Graham's is still the best character and gets all the best lines, The Doctor's kind of derpy and rubbish, Ryan's rubbish without Graham, and Yas barely exists. The last twenty minutes was well done and affecting, but felt a little undeserved based on the previous half hour.

In the past she was speaking Punjabi whereas in the present she is speaking English with presumably an English Punjabi accent.

Doctor Who has always been political so I don't know why it's suddenly such an issue now. Seems like an odd complaint to make for longtime fans.

I thought it was a serviceable episode with a refreshing new alien species with an unique motivation.

Including a variety of political opinions at the time (Indian nationalism, anti-British sentiment, ethno-religio-nationalism) that have no real bearing on contemporary political issues, isn't being political.

Seeing that episode as preaching a "people are people" message is... not sustainable. Here's a pro tip for enjoying media: the only people who see messages in texts are English teachers. If you're not an English teacher, why do you care that the curtains are blue. Don't look and you won't see. Unless it's Lord of the Flies which has a handy-dandy tl;dr built in. In this episode, you needed to want to find the political moral to think it obvious.

[Drand Union]

Glaring plot hole

The Vicar is dead, Aliens stand over the corpse, there is no OBVIOuS cause of death, but the corpse IS surrounded by glowing Alien tech.

So the obvious assumption is that the murder was done by Aliens in the Forest with the Alien-tech. But the resolution is

Manish in the Forest with the rifle.WTF??? They can't see bullet holes. Screwdriver cannot detect bullet-holes.

There are a couple of things that I would like to point out:

1: Is your problem that the aliens didn't do it? Because I think that that was explained rather well by the episode, when we find out that they witness unacknowledged deaths, explaining their presence. Not all alien tech is meant to kill, and although I never actually understood what the dust was used for (probably just wasn't paying enough attention) it certainly wasn't made to kill, although that might be the assumption, but it shouldn't be. Damn media, steriotyping aliens!
2: As for the bullets, you're completely right. Maybe an explaination would be that it wasn't visible at first because it was covered by the aforementioned alien dust, and when the doctor scanned the vicar, she scanned for poison rather than cause of death. The characters not noticing bullet wounds could be because they they were focused on the dust more than the body.

[Earthbound Immortal Squad]

Glaring plot hole

The Vicar is dead, Aliens stand over the corpse, there is no OBVIOuS cause of death, but the corpse IS surrounded by glowing Alien tech.

So the obvious assumption is that the murder was done by Aliens in the Forest with the Alien-tech. But the resolution is

Manish in the Forest with the rifle.WTF??? They can't see bullet holes. Screwdriver cannot detect bullet-holes.

There are a couple of things that I would like to point out:

1: Is your problem that the aliens didn't do it? Because I think that that was explained rather well by the episode, when we find out that they witness unacknowledged deaths, explaining their presence. Not all alien tech is meant to kill, and although I never actually understood what the dust was used for (probably just wasn't paying enough attention) it certainly wasn't made to kill, although that might be the assumption, but it shouldn't be. Damn media, steriotyping aliens!
2: As for the bullets, you're completely right. Maybe an explaination would be that it wasn't visible at first because it was covered by the aforementioned alien dust, and when the doctor scanned the vicar, she scanned for poison rather than cause of death. The characters not noticing bullet wounds could be because they they were focused on the dust more than the body.

Also what if he was shot in the back then moved to the tree to cover up the bullet?

[Heloin]

For fucks sake, this season is starting to piss me off. STOP WITH THE POLITICAL EPISODES. I'm not here for that. I'm here to have FUN. This was a heavy-handed slog of an episode. Not to mention the incredibly lame ass design of the aliens.

You've not been watching Doctor Who for very long if you think political episodes are new or rare.

[Ameriganastan]

For fucks sake, this season is starting to piss me off. STOP WITH THE POLITICAL EPISODES. I'm not here for that. I'm here to have FUN. This was a heavy-handed slog of an episode. Not to mention the incredibly lame ass design of the aliens.

You've not been watching Doctor Who for very long if you think political episodes are new or rare.

I know they aren't new. I still remember that shitty Zygon metaphor two-parter. But as I've repeatedly said, they usually SPACE THEM OUT. They aren't doing that here. And it's getting on my nerves.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I really want to see that army of death turtles the doctor mentioned at the start of the last episode.

That just sound stupidly awesome.

[Skylus]

I really want to see that army of death turtles the doctor mentioned at the start of the last episode.

That just sound stupidly awesome.

Hell yeah.

[Ameriganastan]

I really want to see that army of death turtles the doctor mentioned at the start of the last episode.

That just sound stupidly awesome.

Knowing the writing for this season, they'd turn out to be harmless and they'd spin it into some message about how we're polluting the ocean.

[New yugoslavaia]

I would like to see the daleks going back to their cunning and manipulative ways. It would interesting to see them working with something along the lines of space Nazis/Fascists (as they are those themselves) to further their own goals. Maybe they're helping this small Fascist empire in a war to fight another power, and maybe the doctor and company end up on a planet being used as a battlefield between the two sides. The two sides could even both be far-right and are both helped by different factions of daleks.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Heresy!