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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:07 pm

When playing with my brother's American friends, ADC was always heavily contested (strange because its not a particularly powerful role right now?).

In fact, Top is what's unpopular with them, and since I play "everything" that's what I end up playing most in Group Games.

I just run top lane Vladimir and farm up while they fiesta 4 v 4 on the other side.

...

It's unfortunate that I haven't been able to play with them for some time, every since my brother quit the game, the group has dispersed (many others quit or started playing with other circles of people).

In fact, I look back 2 years and I think almost everyone IRL has left the game, some have come back but the spirit of combat camaraderie ("YES let's log in and play, Disc Disc... trading strategic tips and being completely immersed in the battles for sometimes as long as 5+ hours is just gone). So sad...

Whenever I'm encouraged by a group to start an activity (whether its League of anything else), I always stick to it until everyone else is nearly all gone. I very very reluctantly take up new activities but when I do, I often stay around a LONG TIME.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:15 pm

Ranked and Work also just do not mix (imo).

There's this person I know from Google and ALL HE DOES (as soon as he's off the clock) is grind Ranked game after Ranked game after Ranked game. And on most days, the LP doesn't move much.

I'm like... "Dude how do you do this???? How do you have energy levels for this after a day of shenanigans????"

My main account MMR Is screwed up. Last time I played Ranked I lose 10 LP per loss but gain 22 LP if I win. However, all the players in the game had Plat and Diamond frames and IT WAS NOT FUN.

I literally can't even participate in any of the team fights because things just happen way too fast so all I do is provide long range CC and/or rotate safely to clear waves (for map control).

I played for 1 weekend to see if I could get the MMR re-adjusted correctly but it was the most tilting thing ever. The LP doesn't move, I'd lose 2-3 games and then win 1 match at the "inflated elo" (I've never climbed higher than G5) but somehow it balances out because the LP gains/losses kept adjusting (I got 33 LP for a clutch win its ridiculous).

I was like:

"Screw this Rito. If you're going to force me to play Ranked at Plat level then the least you could do is give me a Plat rank and not a Silver I rank. I could play another 30+ games for you to re-adjust my hidden MMR but why... WHYYYYYYY... Also, games at this elo doesn't even feel like League anymore because clearly my mechanical level and game awareness is not there...""

I looked at the clock and I realized that this wasn't going to work.

MAYBE after another 10+ games the elo would re-adjust and I could then get to the Gold border but come now.

but I'm telling you... THE TIME BUDGET
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:46 pm

Switched from Twitch to playing/spamming Jinx now (more options in laning phase).

Getting very mixed results on the battlefield.

I'm able to stay even or ahead in lane (getting the 2 item spike every game)... however, damage output is very low/inconsistent and I need to work on it.

I love the mid game Triples and the long range Ult executes if things are calculated correctly though.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:12 pm

So a standard Senna playstyle seems to have caught on. Fleet Footwork in mid lane. It makes her healing super busted.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:41 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:So a standard Senna playstyle seems to have caught on. Fleet Footwork in mid lane. It makes her healing super busted.


have you tried playing?

should I get her too?

I played a lot of Jinx with a friendly player on Senna support these past few days. They make a great team.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:23 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:So a standard Senna playstyle seems to have caught on. Fleet Footwork in mid lane. It makes her healing super busted.


have you tried playing?

should I get her too?

I played a lot of Jinx with a friendly player on Senna support these past few days. They make a great team.

I played her once as support. She's okay I guess.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:46 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
have you tried playing?

should I get her too?

I played a lot of Jinx with a friendly player on Senna support these past few days. They make a great team.

I played her once as support. She's okay I guess.


Eh why not

I’ll make her a “project support” champ... I’m too over reliant on Naut right now, he’s a good lad but I want to broaden tactical options

Jinx though... I’m massively massively impressed with the champion... I feel these past few days, she’s exhibited carry power/potential that feels on par/greater than Vladimir (she’s now number 1-2 in the whole “army”)

For top lane I think I need a new “enforcer”...

Debating between Darius, Renekton or Tryndamere (leaning towards Darius although learning curve will be steep)

What do you play nowadays?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:26 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I played her once as support. She's okay I guess.


Eh why not

I’ll make her a “project support” champ... I’m too over reliant on Naut right now, he’s a good lad but I want to broaden tactical options

Jinx though... I’m massively massively impressed with the champion... I feel these past few days, she’s exhibited carry power/potential that feels on par/greater than Vladimir (she’s now number 1-2 in the whole “army”)

For top lane I think I need a new “enforcer”...

Debating between Darius, Renekton or Tryndamere (leaning towards Darius although learning curve will be steep)

What do you play nowadays?

In top lane? Fiora mostly.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:09 am

Played some 5 player party games with my American friends (massively boosting up the MMR) and just realised that my ADC is NOT up to par...

The fights are so fast, the enemy focus is so good, and I literally cannot keep up with the combat. My ADC farms, and then trails behind fights (or gets instantly blown up), damage output is abysmal and my only contribution is moving around and taking towers.

I was wondering if they were high ranked opponents but then... nope

Switched to playing Nautilus/Vladimir... IMMEDIATE battlefield contribution (all of a sudden, I CAN keep up with the fights and rack up good stats).

Apparently, I'm just a terrible AD player once the enemies get serious.

So... whether its destiny or not... I've embraced "fate" and gone back to being "the Vladimir" when playing these party games.

They said to me:

"Lannister Iron just got promoted to Lannister Gold because now you're now playing Vlad top... what you were born to do"
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Postby Alvecia » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:00 am

In fairness ADC is the role most dependent on your teammates. Particularly these days when damage output is so high and bursty.
Your team needs to be able to mitigate or prevent their focus for you to be able to get your damage in.

It’s why carries like Kaisa and Xayah are so high priority, cause they’ve got a lot of self peel and survivability inherent in their kit.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:38 am

Alvecia wrote:In fairness ADC is the role most dependent on your teammates. Particularly these days when damage output is so high and bursty.
Your team needs to be able to mitigate or prevent their focus for you to be able to get your damage in.

It’s why carries like Kaisa and Xayah are so high priority, cause they’ve got a lot of self peel and survivability inherent in their kit.


its so incredibly frustrating though

my performance as mid vs ADC is WORLDS apart; I literally feel like I do nothing as ADC now

I seriously would perform better as a Vladimir/Annie bot lane than as an ADC... that's how bad my ADC is.

It would actually benefit my team MORE if I went Vladimir bot lane even though ADC marksmen are meta and optimised for the role.

It's honestly just so frustrating how 1-2 of Ekko, Jarvan, Nunu, Nocturne, Yi, Rengar etc are always picked and you just KNOW (if the elo is high enough) that they're going to flank and attack you (Flash on you too) and then blow you up in 1-2 seconds no matter how many items you have.

...

Literally, if I were to play for my Life (I die if I lose) and they made me go bot I'd have a better chance to win as a Vladimir bot laner.

It's only out of symbolic respect for the meta that I even try to practice Marksmen now but my patience is waning lol

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:25 am

It might be worth giving it a try. Mages in the bot lane has had some solo queue success.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:24 pm

Alvecia wrote:It might be worth giving it a try. Mages in the bot lane has had some solo queue success.


Gone back to spamming/practicing Twitch ADC

I really really look forward to fiddlesticks rework. But the latest I’ve heard it won’t be until 2020 or something

That’s an insane wait time
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:26 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:It might be worth giving it a try. Mages in the bot lane has had some solo queue success.


Gone back to spamming/practicing Twitch ADC

I really really look forward to fiddlesticks rework. But the latest I’ve heard it won’t be until 2020 or something

That’s an insane wait time

Tbf, 2020 is like, 5 weeks away.

They're doing Volibear at the same time, so I'm looking forward to both. I've found them a lot of fun when playing.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:25 am

Not psyched about the Voli rework. He was fine if you ask me. This rework better not screw with my top lane Voli game. I wreck up there with him.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:34 am

Cripes, we already got the next champ coming.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:08 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Cripes, we already got the next champ coming.


Not bad...

what's he going to do in combat?

My cousin is pretty big Diana player. Maybe he'd be interested in playing this character.

By the way, is Senna getting nerfed?

(Ironically I'm waiting for her to be nerfed before I start playing her... I don't like learning champs when they are "OP" only for them to be later nerfed, its what happened with Morde)

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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:01 pm

I do not like these support item changes. It has fucked with my tank supports and it's pissing me off.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:10 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:I do not like these support item changes. It has fucked with my tank supports and it's pissing me off.


Does

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no longer work well?

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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:13 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I do not like these support item changes. It has fucked with my tank supports and it's pissing me off.


Does

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Zekes - Relic item Final Upgrade - Knight's Vow - Redemption - Locket (with Mobies)

no longer work well?

It's passive now is the issue. You just buy the Relic Shield. No Ruby Crystal and such for that extra health I need for my tanks. And now it takes 1000 fucking gold before the full item kicks in.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:46 pm

I bought me Diana.

She might be my new favorite mid laner.
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Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:48 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Does

Relic start

Zekes - Relic item Final Upgrade - Knight's Vow - Redemption - Locket (with Mobies)

no longer work well?

It's passive now is the issue. You just buy the Relic Shield. No Ruby Crystal and such for that extra health I need for my tanks. And now it takes 1000 fucking gold before the full item kicks in.


I tried it yesterday on Naut, it felt clunkier

The thing is, I couldn’t get it to tier 3 until much later in the game because once out if lane, people often don’t let me execute lol

But does this mean support builds are even cheaper on paper?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:05 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:I tried it yesterday on Naut, it felt clunkier

The thing is, I couldn’t get it to tier 3 until much later in the game because once out if lane, people often don’t let me execute lol

Exactly. Like on a good day, I usually had my support item kicked in before 20. Playing Leona the other day and I didn't finish til over 30 minutes in.

Infected Mushroom wrote:But does this mean support builds are even cheaper on paper?

Cheaper, yes. Better, no.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

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Eric Lumen: Ultimate Chad
Force of nature.
The Ameri Train.
The Ameri song
Tsundere Ameri.
HulkAmeri
Ameri goes to court.
Universal Constant
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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