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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:55 pm
by Ameriganastan
District XIV wrote:
Also, the irony of a Bronze 5 player telling me they "know what they're doing" is quite funny.

Oh, you really wanna do this? You REALLY wanna do this?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:01 pm
by Doom Legions
Something you definetly should consider is a spellthief's edge, since you don't CS you'll need the gold it gives you.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:05 pm
by Ameriganastan
When I want advice, I'll ask for it. Until then, you can both quit talking to me like I'm some first week player.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:07 pm
by Doom Legions
Ameriganastan wrote:When I want advice, I'll ask for it. Until then, you can both quit talking to me like I'm some first week player.

As you wish. If you change your mind, you know where to find me.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:24 pm
by Thomas Insaniac
Doom Legions wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Really?

Bad credit already? What are the most obvious signs?

It used to be AT LEAST credible (on the surface). Back in the days when they had a Mid lane God Tier list that made sense. But now its just all over the place.

Just the tier system alone. God tier? Really? Disgusting.


Nerf Plz has been around for a long time, it has plenty of credibility.

The Tier List is generally pretty accurate, even though it's not 100% accurate.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:26 pm
by Thomas Insaniac
Doom Legions wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Well, I mean, it does theoretically allow you to do more damage at the cost of mobility

The tenacity, magic pen, cdr and of course the ms boots can provide is far too important.
A tank without Mercury's Treads will just get raped by cc and so on. Imagine a jungler without boots, they'd be too slow to actually do their job.
The speed it gives you is just too essential, it helps you move from one place to another faster, which is very important and it also helps you outrun or chase down enemies.


Merc Threads aren't that amazing. Tenacity is in Masteries, Swifties are better if they have slows and a lot of times Ninja Tabi will be better than Mercs.

Mercs are pretty overrated.

But you pretty much always need boots, Movespeed is actually a very powerful stat.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:28 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Thomas Insaniac wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Just the tier system alone. God tier? Really? Disgusting.


Nerf Plz has been around for a long time, it has plenty of credibility.

The Tier List is generally pretty accurate, even though it's not 100% accurate.


I dunno though. Twisted Fate one of the only 3 God Tier Mids in the game? It just sounds like its really suspicious. I mean, I'm fairly sure anyone who can carry with TF can carry much harder with another champion in Mid.

He's not very threatening in lane (if not straight out food for assassins and Annie). All he has is his yellow card (one ability). His 3 card throw is fairly easy to anticipate and dodge and he has no escapes. His laning is just quite bad. If you're going to TP around with your Ult mid game to try and snowball, there's nothing preventing your opponent from doing the same (he just walks around instead). It just doesn't seem like he has any huge advantage. You can secure a few kills with sudden TPs, but you lose a lot of power in the lane for it.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:30 pm
by Ameriganastan
Thomas Insaniac wrote:But you pretty much always need boots, Movespeed is actually a very powerful stat.

Movespeed might as well be the 'Luck' stat in a game. It's useless. And if I wanna go faster, that's what her W is for.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:30 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Thomas Insaniac wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:The tenacity, magic pen, cdr and of course the ms boots can provide is far too important.
A tank without Mercury's Treads will just get raped by cc and so on. Imagine a jungler without boots, they'd be too slow to actually do their job.
The speed it gives you is just too essential, it helps you move from one place to another faster, which is very important and it also helps you outrun or chase down enemies.


Merc Threads aren't that amazing. Tenacity is in Masteries, Swifties are better if they have slows and a lot of times Ninja Tabi will be better than Mercs.

Mercs are pretty overrated.

But you pretty much always need boots, Movespeed is actually a very powerful stat.


My favourite is Ionian Boots of Lucidity. I try to run it on all my AP characters as much as possible, CDR is just so powerful and its 200 gold cheaper than the other boots. I find that my enemies rarely build MR so I often favour Ionian over Sorcs.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:31 pm
by Thomas Insaniac
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Thomas Insaniac wrote:
Nerf Plz has been around for a long time, it has plenty of credibility.

The Tier List is generally pretty accurate, even though it's not 100% accurate.


I dunno though. Twisted Fate one of the only 3 God Tier Mids in the game? It just sounds like its really suspicious. I mean, I'm fairly sure anyone who can carry with TF can carry much harder with another champion in Mid.

He's not very threatening in lane (if not straight out food for assassins and Annie). All he has is his yellow card (one ability). His 3 card throw is fairly easy to anticipate and dodge and he has no escapes. His laning is just quite bad. If you're going to TP around with your Ult mid game to try and snowball, there's nothing preventing your opponent from doing the same (he just walks around instead). It just doesn't seem like he has any huge advantage.


The list isn't made for Bronze/Low Silver. I think it starts to hold true at high silver when people understand the game better. TFs strenght is his roaming, if he can put his sidelanes (especially his botlane) ahead without losing his lane, the game is pretty much over. Especially considering how snowbally everything is right now. Also TF really isn't that bad of a laner, he just isn't aggressive, he can more than hold his own.
His Q and his Red Card make great waveclear, his Blue Card gives him mana sustain and his Yellow is anti-gank. It makes him a safe laner with a lot of potential to snowball other lanes.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:33 pm
by Thomas Insaniac
Ameriganastan wrote:
Thomas Insaniac wrote:But you pretty much always need boots, Movespeed is actually a very powerful stat.

Movespeed might as well be the 'Luck' stat in a game. It's useless. And if I wanna go faster, that's what her W is for.


I'm just gonna have to disagree with you on that. I don't think debating this with you will result in much. Movespeed is a very important stat.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:34 pm
by Thomas Insaniac
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Thomas Insaniac wrote:
Merc Threads aren't that amazing. Tenacity is in Masteries, Swifties are better if they have slows and a lot of times Ninja Tabi will be better than Mercs.

Mercs are pretty overrated.

But you pretty much always need boots, Movespeed is actually a very powerful stat.


My favourite is Ionian Boots of Lucidity. I try to run it on all my AP characters as much as possible, CDR is just so powerful and its 200 gold cheaper than the other boots. I find that my enemies rarely build MR so I often favour Ionian over Sorcs.


Ionians is good, depends on the champ. Some champs benefit more from MPen than they do from CDR (I'm a dirty Elise player).

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:02 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Thomas Insaniac wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
My favourite is Ionian Boots of Lucidity. I try to run it on all my AP characters as much as possible, CDR is just so powerful and its 200 gold cheaper than the other boots. I find that my enemies rarely build MR so I often favour Ionian over Sorcs.


Ionians is good, depends on the champ. Some champs benefit more from MPen than they do from CDR (I'm a dirty Elise player).


I'm thinking of using Ionian for Annie and then just relying on Void Staff and Abyssal for M Pen. Maybe running Ionian on Vladimir as well for more Transfusion spamming.

Though I rarely see any MR on the enemy team, for some reason people don't build it much at low elo.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:07 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Thomas Insaniac wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I dunno though. Twisted Fate one of the only 3 God Tier Mids in the game? It just sounds like its really suspicious. I mean, I'm fairly sure anyone who can carry with TF can carry much harder with another champion in Mid.

He's not very threatening in lane (if not straight out food for assassins and Annie). All he has is his yellow card (one ability). His 3 card throw is fairly easy to anticipate and dodge and he has no escapes. His laning is just quite bad. If you're going to TP around with your Ult mid game to try and snowball, there's nothing preventing your opponent from doing the same (he just walks around instead). It just doesn't seem like he has any huge advantage.


The list isn't made for Bronze/Low Silver. I think it starts to hold true at high silver when people understand the game better. TFs strenght is his roaming, if he can put his sidelanes (especially his botlane) ahead without losing his lane, the game is pretty much over. Especially considering how snowbally everything is right now. Also TF really isn't that bad of a laner, he just isn't aggressive, he can more than hold his own.
His Q and his Red Card make great waveclear, his Blue Card gives him mana sustain and his Yellow is anti-gank. It makes him a safe laner with a lot of potential to snowball other lanes.


I see...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:05 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Should I learn to play Teemo?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:11 pm
by Ameriganastan
Infected Mushroom wrote:Should I learn to play Teemo?

No one should play Teemo.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:20 pm
by Grand Britannia
Infected Mushroom wrote:Should I learn to play Teemo?


Tankmo goes extremely well given everyone will want to kill you.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:41 pm
by Kractero
Sona is the best champion in the game in my biased opinion.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:43 pm
by Ameriganastan
Kractero wrote:Sona is the best champion in the game in my biased opinion.

How so? Soraka seems like a better support.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:44 pm
by Kractero
Ameriganastan wrote:
Kractero wrote:Sona is the best champion in the game in my biased opinion.

How so? Soraka seems like a better support.

Sona does damage and has CC.

She has everything a support needs: Damage, Heal, Movement speed buff, Utility, great crowd control...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:49 am
by Ameriganastan

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:55 pm
by Ameriganastan
Man, the updated splash for Regifted Amumu is depressing as fuck.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:23 pm
by Grand Britannia
Kractero wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:How so? Soraka seems like a better support.

Sona does damage and has CC.

She has everything a support needs: Damage, Heal, Movement speed buff, Utility, great crowd control...


Comfort.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:03 pm
by Infected Mushroom
what are the odds of them making a new splash art for Classic Vladimir for the 6.9 when they release the new Vlad?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:04 pm
by Ameriganastan
Infected Mushroom wrote:what are the odds of them making a new splash art for Classic Vladimir for the 6.9 when they release the new Vlad?

I'd say it's high. I hear they're removing blood from splash art. And his splash is about 90% blood.