League Of Legends Thread

[Doom Legions]

8-4 in my first game as Annie. I like her.

Annie is nasty, not as nasty as Veigar though.

[Alvecia]

New poll: Coolest gun in League.

Admittedly biased Jinx player here. When is a minigun and a rocket launcher not the answer to your problems.

[Infected Mushroom]

8-4 in my first game as Annie. I like her.

Annie is nasty, not as nasty as Veigar though.

I tried playing Veigar but found his cage to be very unreliable. I also feel that (at least in the elo I'm playing at), I fare better with Annie against the bursty picks in mid (Kat, Talon, Fizz etc). But that might just be familiarity with her moves and counterplay options...

Though I suppose Veigar has lower cool downs and lots of poke. I imagine his Q does monster damage at end game when farmed up? Maybe I should consider picking him up again; I mean his shots have about the same accuracy and speed as Zed's Shurikens right?

I have not played him for a very long time. How viable is he?

[Doom Legions]

Annie is nasty, not as nasty as Veigar though.

I tried playing Veigar but found his cage to be very unreliable. I also feel that (at least in the elo I'm playing at), I fare better with Annie against the bursty picks in mid (Kat, Talon, Fizz etc). But that might just be familiarity with her moves and counterplay options...

Though I suppose Veigar has lower cool downs and lots of poke. I imagine his Q does monster damage at end game when farmed up? Maybe I should consider picking him up again; I mean his shots have about the same accuracy and speed as Zed's Shurikens right?

I have not played him for a very long time. How viable is he?

I've had moments with him where at end game my Q had a 3 sec cooldown and did 850 damage. His Q's are a bit less broad, but have about double range compared to Zed's shurikens. Main thing is that you have to watch your positioning, since he's one of the, if not the most squish champ in the game.
His E is far from unreliable, sure it nolonger appears instantly, but with if you position it right it fucks up the entire enemy team. It's also great for catching people out of position. Even if they're not stunned they will be stuck inside, making them easy pickings for you and your team.
But if in your elo it's full of Katatarinas, Talons and Fizz's then you should refrain from picking him, since those counter him. Unless you're really skilled with him you'll get rekt.

Still though, there's little as satisfing as sitting in a bush and catching an enemy walking past and insta killing them. Or when you land your E on your lane opponent and fire off your full burst and kill them with them having to sit there unable to stop you. :3

[Infected Mushroom]

I tried playing Veigar but found his cage to be very unreliable. I also feel that (at least in the elo I'm playing at), I fare better with Annie against the bursty picks in mid (Kat, Talon, Fizz etc). But that might just be familiarity with her moves and counterplay options...

Though I suppose Veigar has lower cool downs and lots of poke. I imagine his Q does monster damage at end game when farmed up? Maybe I should consider picking him up again; I mean his shots have about the same accuracy and speed as Zed's Shurikens right?

I have not played him for a very long time. How viable is he?

I've had moments with him where at end game my Q had a 3 sec cooldown and did 850 damage. His Q's are a bit less broad, but have about double range compared to Zed's shurikens. Main thing is that you have to watch your positioning, since he's one of the, if not the most squish champ in the game.
His E is far from unreliable, sure it nolonger appears instantly, but with if you position it right it fucks up the entire enemy team. It's also great for catching people out of position. Even if they're not stunned they will be stuck inside, making them easy pickings for you and your team.
But if in your elo it's full of Katatarinas, Talons and Fizz's then you should refrain from picking him, since those counter him. Unless you're really skilled with him you'll get rekt.

Still though, there's little as satisfing as sitting in a bush and catching an enemy walking past and insta killing them. Or when you land your E on your lane opponent and fire off your full burst and kill them with them having to sit there unable to stop you. :3

Is Veigar considered burst?

Because I generally played him more like a late game high damage poke champ. If I coincidentally managed to burst someone down then I do it but my approach wasn't to go around the map looking for targets to 100-0. I'd rather try to land my spells in bits and pieces and do chunks of damage here and there. I felt that the delay on his E and W made it somewhat difficult to confidently throw all the moves out in an attempt to 100-0 someone. I'd rather poke around. Is this a bad approach?

[Grand Britannia]

I, for one, enjoy the steampunk-ish rifle Cait uses.

Next poll should be coolest melee weapon now that we get to items like these.

I've had moments with him where at end game my Q had a 3 sec cooldown and did 850 damage. His Q's are a bit less broad, but have about double range compared to Zed's shurikens. Main thing is that you have to watch your positioning, since he's one of the, if not the most squish champ in the game.
His E is far from unreliable, sure it nolonger appears instantly, but with if you position it right it fucks up the entire enemy team. It's also great for catching people out of position. Even if they're not stunned they will be stuck inside, making them easy pickings for you and your team.
But if in your elo it's full of Katatarinas, Talons and Fizz's then you should refrain from picking him, since those counter him. Unless you're really skilled with him you'll get rekt.

Still though, there's little as satisfing as sitting in a bush and catching an enemy walking past and insta killing them. Or when you land your E on your lane opponent and fire off your full burst and kill them with them having to sit there unable to stop you. :3

Is Veigar considered burst?

Because I generally played him more like a late game high damage poke champ. If I coincidentally managed to burst someone down then I do it but my approach wasn't to go around the map looking for targets to 100-0. I'd rather try to land my spells in bits and pieces and do chunks of damage here and there. I felt that the delay on his E and W made it somewhat difficult to confidently throw all the moves out in an attempt to 100-0 someone. I'd rather poke around. Is this a bad approach?

Veigar will burst heavy AP users just with his ult. It's not called Primordial Burst for nothing.

[Oslea]

I've had moments with him where at end game my Q had a 3 sec cooldown and did 850 damage. His Q's are a bit less broad, but have about double range compared to Zed's shurikens. Main thing is that you have to watch your positioning, since he's one of the, if not the most squish champ in the game.
His E is far from unreliable, sure it nolonger appears instantly, but with if you position it right it fucks up the entire enemy team. It's also great for catching people out of position. Even if they're not stunned they will be stuck inside, making them easy pickings for you and your team.
But if in your elo it's full of Katatarinas, Talons and Fizz's then you should refrain from picking him, since those counter him. Unless you're really skilled with him you'll get rekt.

Still though, there's little as satisfing as sitting in a bush and catching an enemy walking past and insta killing them. Or when you land your E on your lane opponent and fire off your full burst and kill them with them having to sit there unable to stop you. :3

Is Veigar considered burst?

Because I generally played him more like a late game high damage poke champ. If I coincidentally managed to burst someone down then I do it but my approach wasn't to go around the map looking for targets to 100-0. I'd rather try to land my spells in bits and pieces and do chunks of damage here and there. I felt that the delay on his E and W made it somewhat difficult to confidently throw all the moves out in an attempt to 100-0 someone. I'd rather poke around. Is this a bad approach?

You can literally one-shot an AP carry using only your R by 30 minutes, if you farm and build properly.

[Infected Mushroom]

I'm a bit tempted to start playing him again but can he survive against Zed, Fizz and Talon for at least 10 minutes of the game (like at least just survive, ex by rushing Zhonya and staying on your side of the river)?

Because it sounds like he's very powerful in team fights with all of his high-damage and ranged poke, and now that I've had some practice at aiming those with Ezreal, I could probably hit more of them. But if his laning is way too hellish...

Take Barrier or Ignite?

[Infected Mushroom]

Is Veigar considered burst?

Because I generally played him more like a late game high damage poke champ. If I coincidentally managed to burst someone down then I do it but my approach wasn't to go around the map looking for targets to 100-0. I'd rather try to land my spells in bits and pieces and do chunks of damage here and there. I felt that the delay on his E and W made it somewhat difficult to confidently throw all the moves out in an attempt to 100-0 someone. I'd rather poke around. Is this a bad approach?

You can literally one-shot an AP carry using only your R by 30 minutes, if you farm and build properly.

Flash R then?

[Grand Britannia]

I'm a bit tempted to start playing him again but can he survive against Zed, Fizz and Talon for at least 10 minutes of the game (like at least just survive, ex by rushing Zhonya and staying on your side of the river)?

Because it sounds like he's very powerful in team fights with all of his high-damage and ranged poke, and now that I've had some practice at aiming those with Ezreal, I could probably hit more of them. But if his laning is way too hellish...

Take Barrier or Ignite?

Veigar is more late game because of his passive. He's not as power against AD, though. Especially when they start building stuff like Maw, which Zed and Talon will most likely buy against Veigar if they have any clue what they're doing.

Zed will just evade your ult with his ult.

[Infected Mushroom]

I'm a bit tempted to start playing him again but can he survive against Zed, Fizz and Talon for at least 10 minutes of the game (like at least just survive, ex by rushing Zhonya and staying on your side of the river)?

Because it sounds like he's very powerful in team fights with all of his high-damage and ranged poke, and now that I've had some practice at aiming those with Ezreal, I could probably hit more of them. But if his laning is way too hellish...

Take Barrier or Ignite?

Veigar is more late game because of his passive. He's not as power against AD, though. Especially when they start building stuff like Maw, which Zed and Talon will most likely buy against Veigar if they have any clue what they're doing.

Zed will just evade your ult with his ult.

I see...

I don't really want to kill him though (I'd assume you can't outburst him, especially if he MRs up). Just stay in the lane and farm up to 60-70ish farm in 10 minutes without dying =)

If he kills me after it should be fine because at that point I'll probably be more useful to the team as a whole.

Not sure if it can be done though, because with Lux I can threaten them back with my Q. But Veigar's W seems less of a deterrent because of the delay.

My laning phase, unless I'm Annie, is passive as hell (to a fault maybe but I have high survival rates).

[Grand Britannia]

Veigar is more late game because of his passive. He's not as power against AD, though. Especially when they start building stuff like Maw, which Zed and Talon will most likely buy against Veigar if they have any clue what they're doing.

Zed will just evade your ult with his ult.

I see...

I don't really want to kill him though (I'd assume you can't outburst him, especially if he MRs up). Just stay in the lane and farm up to 60-70ish farm in 10 minutes without dying =)

If he kills me after it should be fine because at that point I'll probably be more useful to the team as a whole.

Not sure if it can be done though, because with Lux I can threaten them back with my Q. But Veigar's W seems less of a deterrent because of the delay.

My laning phase, unless I'm Annie, is passive as hell (to a fault maybe but I have high survival rates).

If it's like that yeah get that farm up with your Q and don't push. You could get a kill on him if he's aggressive, but you should also watch out if he wises up to what you're doing and lets the lane get pushed to his tower, it's hard for Veigar to escape a gank and you could end up farm starved.

This can go for either Zed of Talon, I just consider Zed would be harder to lane against because of his poke and ability to evade your ult.

[Gothmogs]

As Veigar you can place your stun over zeds shadow so he can't dash back to it, same with kat, if you place it over yourself. For talon just stand inside your thingy and he can't even approach you. You shouldn't die if you use the ability safely and effectively.

[Ameriganastan]

Next poll should be coolest melee weapon now that we get to items like these.

We'll see. I picked guns cause few enough champs use them to fit into a poll.

[Oslea]

You can literally one-shot an AP carry using only your R by 30 minutes, if you farm and build properly.

Flash R then?

You'll probably look super dumb if your R doesn't 100-0 the enemy AP carry. I'd probably go for a stun-W-Q-R combo to ensure you're actually going to kill them - if you shoot your W as soon as you stun your opponent, it should land. You can also just poke in lane with Qs until you feel you can one-shot with your R.

Also, you can throw a W in the middle of a teamfight because people probably won't be paying attention, and chunk their team for tons of damage.

[Infected Mushroom]

Flash R then?

You'll probably look super dumb if your R doesn't 100-0 the enemy AP carry. I'd probably go for a stun-W-Q-R combo to ensure you're actually going to kill them - if you shoot your W as soon as you stun your opponent, it should land. You can also just poke in lane with Qs until you feel you can one-shot with your R.

Also, you can throw a W in the middle of a teamfight because people probably won't be paying attention, and chunk their team for tons of damage.

I tried playing him just now. HOLY HELL last hitting is a major pain!

It was me vs Vel Koz in mid. Neither of us managed to kill the other in the laning phase although he out-ranged and out damaged me early on and forced a back. Later on I tried to all in him but he survived by just a little bit and then he backed. I barely managed to get just over 50 farms.

Didn't really get to see how strong Veigar is because for the rest of the game Vel roamed around and so I used the chance to farm up the Q. The final fight was too fast.

[Oslea]

Yeah, generally farming as any AP with your autos is complete ass; Veigar more so because everyone knows you do no damage early game so they go aggressive on you. I bet Vel took barrier, it's probably best to get a jungler to trigger it before going all-in on him.

Also, if anyone's on NA - add me!

KoreanRiceBowl

[Infected Mushroom]

Yeah, generally farming as any AP with your autos is complete ass; Veigar more so because everyone knows you do no damage early game so they go aggressive on you. I bet Vel took barrier, it's probably best to get a jungler to trigger it before going all-in on him.

Also, if anyone's on NA - add me!

KoreanRiceBowl

actually, he went Ignite and I took Barrier. I actually had to activate it one time as I was running back to the tower to prevent him from turning me into ashes...

[Infected Mushroom]

Yeah, generally farming as any AP with your autos is complete ass; Veigar more so because everyone knows you do no damage early game so they go aggressive on you. I bet Vel took barrier, it's probably best to get a jungler to trigger it before going all-in on him.

Also, if anyone's on NA - add me!

KoreanRiceBowl

invite sent, I'm winchester4749

[Doom Legions]

Last hitting with Veigar is actually pretty easy for an AP champ, since you will be doing half of it with your Q. It just takes some getting used to and of course you need to use your brain for once. You can't just A-move into a wave with him.

Later on you can just throw your W into the wave and kill off the survivors with your Q. Clears fast af.

[Alvecia]

I've been playing Sona recently until I have enough ip to get Nami permanently. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to play. On the one hand she's a pretty good support, her W heals well and cools down quick. But most of the time I seem to be doing a better job of killing the enemy champs than our ADC.
Still against intermediate bots, so maybe its just my team that are lacking.

[Ameriganastan]

Made that Veigar my bitch.

[Madiganistan]

Made that Veigar my bitch.

DAAAAAMN Syndra back at it again with the black balls.

[Doom Legions]

Made that Veigar my bitch.

That Veigar lost horribly while you played Syndra? Did he remove his 'R' button or something? XD

[Geisenfried]

Lissanra and Soraka got skins, too.

GlaDoS Lissandra - want~