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Ameriganastan wrote:Why is it every time I even think the words 'Winning streak' my next game is a clusterfuck? It never fails. I'll go on a roll, notice it, then either say or think "Hey, I'm on a winning streak". And shit goes FUBAR next game. Like this.


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Ameriganastan wrote:Why is it every time I even think the words 'Winning streak' my next game is a clusterfuck? It never fails. I'll go on a roll, notice it, then either say or think "Hey, I'm on a winning streak". And shit goes FUBAR next game. Like this.


Wukong yi combo is brutal

Wukong wasn't the problem. Yi and Ahri were a duo. So naturally I got camped all freaking game. And then there's the MASTERY 7 JINX losing bot lane to an OLAF.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:54 am

Who the Hell comes up with the disenchantment ratios on these shards? How does a champ who costs 6300 only give me 1260 essence if I disenchant it? What a crock.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:46 pm

No, that's fine Riot. Your crappy client crashes on me during 3 games, but it's totally my fault. I totally deserve a 20 minute leavebuster for you inept client. Totally fair and just.
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:49 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:No, that's fine Riot. Your crappy client crashes on me during 3 games, but it's totally my fault. I totally deserve a 20 minute leavebuster for you inept client. Totally fair and just.


I know I don't often post here but I totally sympathize. Damn exe tends to fuck up a lot as of late, and the new client feels a lot buggier than the old one.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:09 pm

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:No, that's fine Riot. Your crappy client crashes on me during 3 games, but it's totally my fault. I totally deserve a 20 minute leavebuster for you inept client. Totally fair and just.


I know I don't often post here but I totally sympathize. Damn exe tends to fuck up a lot as of late, and the new client feels a lot buggier than the old one.


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Postby Miekzhemy » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:01 pm

Is it me or is no one playing regular team comps anymore?

I played against Vladimir adc like 2 straight games in a row. I ban him the next match, and instead their bot lane is Gangplank and Volibear. Then next game I decide to go mid lane. Matched against Lucian.

This has been consistent all week too. What the hell
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:11 pm

Miekzhemy wrote:Is it me or is no one playing regular team comps anymore?

I played against Vladimir adc like 2 straight games in a row. I ban him the next match, and instead their bot lane is Gangplank and Volibear. Then next game I decide to go mid lane. Matched against Lucian.

This has been consistent all week too. What the hell

That's the meta now sadly. People just picking random shit and taking it bot lane. Worst thing is it keeps working.
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Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Doom Legions » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:43 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Miekzhemy wrote:Is it me or is no one playing regular team comps anymore?

I played against Vladimir adc like 2 straight games in a row. I ban him the next match, and instead their bot lane is Gangplank and Volibear. Then next game I decide to go mid lane. Matched against Lucian.

This has been consistent all week too. What the hell

That's the meta now sadly. People just picking random shit and taking it bot lane. Worst thing is it keeps working.

So you're telling me 'meta-break botlane' is now meta? Doesn't that ruin the point of doing it?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:00 am

Miekzhemy wrote:Is it me or is no one playing regular team comps anymore?

I played against Vladimir adc like 2 straight games in a row. I ban him the next match, and instead their bot lane is Gangplank and Volibear. Then next game I decide to go mid lane. Matched against Lucian.

This has been consistent all week too. What the hell


What the hell...

They used to report me for running AP vladimir bot now it’s meta?

This gig is showing up in champion.gg too now (its an actual role for vladimir).

Riot, what have you done...

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Postby Miekzhemy » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:06 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Miekzhemy wrote:Is it me or is no one playing regular team comps anymore?

I played against Vladimir adc like 2 straight games in a row. I ban him the next match, and instead their bot lane is Gangplank and Volibear. Then next game I decide to go mid lane. Matched against Lucian.

This has been consistent all week too. What the hell


What the hell...

They used to report me for running AP vladimir bot now it’s meta?

This gig is showing up in champion.gg too now (its an actual role for vladimir).

Riot, what have you done...


There seems to be a lot of Vladimir bot lane but it doesn't even end there. People just pick anything. Here's only a few wacky encounters we had in the bot lane:

Illaoi and Veigar bot, Pantheon mid, Kindred top ? ? ? ? ?

Brand and Swain

Nami and Darius

And since Lucian is the only adc that can consistently stand up to these types of comps, all other adc champions are just never played at ALL
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:02 am

There's been a big nerf to crit adc's, which have been pretty much a staple of the meta for a long while now. It's kinda thrown everyone off cause now there's no real defining picks for bot, so people are trying out all sorts of different comps.

For example, there's some mega protect-the-carry comps atm which has an extra support, usually Taric, mid.
Very high risk, high reward.

Means everything is a bit chaotic atm. Interesting, for sure. Not to everyone's taste, certainly. As a primarily league viewer rather than player, I'm certainly enjoying it.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:09 am

Miekzhemy wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
What the hell...

They used to report me for running AP vladimir bot now it’s meta?

This gig is showing up in champion.gg too now (its an actual role for vladimir).

Riot, what have you done...


There seems to be a lot of Vladimir bot lane but it doesn't even end there. People just pick anything. Here's only a few wacky encounters we had in the bot lane:

Illaoi and Veigar bot, Pantheon mid, Kindred top ? ? ? ? ?

Brand and Swain

Nami and Darius

And since Lucian is the only adc that can consistently stand up to these types of comps, all other adc champions are just never played at ALL


what about Ezreal and Jhin?

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:21 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Miekzhemy wrote:
There seems to be a lot of Vladimir bot lane but it doesn't even end there. People just pick anything. Here's only a few wacky encounters we had in the bot lane:

Illaoi and Veigar bot, Pantheon mid, Kindred top ? ? ? ? ?

Brand and Swain

Nami and Darius

And since Lucian is the only adc that can consistently stand up to these types of comps, all other adc champions are just never played at ALL


what about Ezreal and Jhin?

EUW stats:
Both are at just sub 50% win rates. Jhin is at 8.14% pick rate, Ezreal at a whopping 34.18%. That's 6th and 1st place respectively, so I'd say Ez is a big pick, Jhin is still fairly well picked.

Top 10 bot pick rates:

Ezreal - 34.18%
Lucian - 32.31%
Kai'sa - 16.22%
Vladmir - 12.24%
Yasuo - 8.14%
Jhin - 8.14%
Mordekaiser - 7.80%
Vayne - 6.75%
MF - 4.90%
Swain - 4.34%

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:23 am

Alvecia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
what about Ezreal and Jhin?

EUW stats:
Both are at just sub 50% win rates. Jhin is at 8.14% pick rate, Ezreal at a whopping 34.18%. That's 6th and 1st place respectively, so I'd say Ez is a big pick, Jhin is still fairly well picked.

Top 10 bot pick rates:

Ezreal - 34.18%
Lucian - 32.31%
Kai'sa - 16.22%
Vladmir - 12.24%
Yasuo - 8.14%
Jhin - 8.14%
Mordekaiser - 7.80%
Vayne - 6.75%
MF - 4.90%
Swain - 4.34%


LOL... VLADIMIR!

Why not Miss Fortune Number One though?

At least for low elo, her laning power is still top-tier, her R is still as game-winning as ever. Also, with the nerf to Crits her Lethality path should be more viable then ever.

I mean, if I have to play for my life in Bot in a trial by combat... I'd pick her.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:27 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:EUW stats:
Both are at just sub 50% win rates. Jhin is at 8.14% pick rate, Ezreal at a whopping 34.18%. That's 6th and 1st place respectively, so I'd say Ez is a big pick, Jhin is still fairly well picked.

Top 10 bot pick rates:

Ezreal - 34.18%
Lucian - 32.31%
Kai'sa - 16.22%
Vladmir - 12.24%
Yasuo - 8.14%
Jhin - 8.14%
Mordekaiser - 7.80%
Vayne - 6.75%
MF - 4.90%
Swain - 4.34%


LOL... VLADIMIR!

Why not Miss Fortune Number One though?

At least for low elo, her laning power is still top-tier, her R is still as game-winning as ever. Also, with the nerf to Crits her Lethality path should be more viable then ever.

I mean, if I have to play for my life in Bot in a trial by combat... I'd pick her.

Looking at the top 3 picks, it seems like the favoured bot picks are those with a bit of self peel. Ezreal, Lucian and Kai'sa all have some dodge/escape mechanics. Could be that extra survivability against these more aggressive picks is what's giving them the edge.
But hey, I'm no analyst.

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Postby Miekzhemy » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:27 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:EUW stats:
Both are at just sub 50% win rates. Jhin is at 8.14% pick rate, Ezreal at a whopping 34.18%. That's 6th and 1st place respectively, so I'd say Ez is a big pick, Jhin is still fairly well picked.

Top 10 bot pick rates:

Ezreal - 34.18%
Lucian - 32.31%
Kai'sa - 16.22%
Vladmir - 12.24%
Yasuo - 8.14%
Jhin - 8.14%
Mordekaiser - 7.80%
Vayne - 6.75%
MF - 4.90%
Swain - 4.34%


LOL... VLADIMIR!

Why not Miss Fortune Number One though?

At least for low elo, her laning power is still top-tier, her R is still as game-winning as ever. Also, with the nerf to Crits her Lethality path should be more viable then ever.

I mean, if I have to play for my life in Bot in a trial by combat... I'd pick her.


Probably because you can just play a tank or ad/ap assassin for shits and giggles and do ten times better with ten times less effort.

People don't even play Lucian bot anymore apparently. Everyone just takes him mid because he shits on every mage. It's like the roles are reversed now.

EDIT on the subject of Ezreal: I struggle to even call Ez an adc. He might as well be an AD Ziggs. I even noticed people steering more towards the double tear build for him where you get a boat load of ad/ap just to get more damage on your long range skillshots.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:28 am

Miekzhemy wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
LOL... VLADIMIR!

Why not Miss Fortune Number One though?

At least for low elo, her laning power is still top-tier, her R is still as game-winning as ever. Also, with the nerf to Crits her Lethality path should be more viable then ever.

I mean, if I have to play for my life in Bot in a trial by combat... I'd pick her.


Probably because you can just play a tank or ad/ap assassin for shits and giggles and do ten times better with ten times less effort.

People don't even play Lucian bot anymore apparently. Everyone just takes him mid because he shits on every mage. It's like the roles are reversed now.

People don't even play Lucian bot anymore apparently

Lucian - 32.31%

:meh:
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Postby Miekzhemy » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:33 am

Alvecia wrote:
Miekzhemy wrote:Probably because you can just play a tank or ad/ap assassin for shits and giggles and do ten times better with ten times less effort.

People don't even play Lucian bot anymore apparently. Everyone just takes him mid because he shits on every mage. It's like the roles are reversed now.

People don't even play Lucian bot anymore apparently

Lucian - 32.31%

:meh:


I was kind of over exaggerating there because it pisses me off to no end seeing that douchebag being played in the mid lane. It's just been the only lane I've seen him in the past few weeks.

Still, is it really surprising that Lucian and Ezreal are getting popular? They have the disengage you need to get away from these stupid ass kill lanes people roll now.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:47 am

Miekzhemy wrote:
Alvecia wrote:

:meh:


I was kind of over exaggerating there because it pisses me off to no end seeing that douchebag being played in the mid lane. It's just been the only lane I've seen him in the past few weeks.

Still, is it really surprising that Lucian and Ezreal are getting popular? They have the disengage you need to get away from these stupid ass kill lanes people roll now.

Tbf, Lucian mid has popped up on the fringes of the meta a couple times now. I suspect he's still not exactly efficient there. Doesn't even appear in the top 50 mid picks on EUW. But I think you're right about the disengage. That combined with the fact that they weren't touched by the crit nerfs means they're sitting pretty right now.
In fact the new Essence Reaver was a pretty big buff, for Lucian at least.
I haven't read the most recent patch notes, but I don't think Rageblade was touched too much either, which benefits Kai'sa.
Tear wasn't hit very hard either, if at all iirc, so Ez is still happy with his core itemisation.

Edit: Kind of a perfect storm for these three. Everyone else was hit both stats wise and itemisation wise, whereas their stats and itemisation remain untouched, and their safety makes them valuable picks in a somewhat chaotic meta.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:51 am

Alvecia wrote:
Miekzhemy wrote:
I was kind of over exaggerating there because it pisses me off to no end seeing that douchebag being played in the mid lane. It's just been the only lane I've seen him in the past few weeks.

Still, is it really surprising that Lucian and Ezreal are getting popular? They have the disengage you need to get away from these stupid ass kill lanes people roll now.

Tbf, Lucian mid has popped up on the fringes of the meta a couple times now. I suspect he's still not exactly efficient there. Doesn't even appear in the top 50 mid picks on EUW. But I think you're right about the disengage. That combined with the fact that they weren't touched by the crit nerfs means they're sitting pretty right now.
In fact the new Essence Reaver was a pretty big buff, for Lucian at least.
I haven't read the most recent patch notes, but I don't think Rageblade was touched too much either, which benefits Kai'sa.
Tear wasn't hit very hard either, if at all iirc, so Ez is still happy with his core itemisation.

Edit: Kind of a perfect storm for these three. Everyone else was hit both stats wise and itemisation wise, whereas their stats and itemisation remain untouched, and their safety makes them valuable picks in a somewhat chaotic meta.


This meta is Ez Real as it gets.

So much Relentless Pursuit with all these kill lanes, no wonder Lucian is in too.

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:53 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Tbf, Lucian mid has popped up on the fringes of the meta a couple times now. I suspect he's still not exactly efficient there. Doesn't even appear in the top 50 mid picks on EUW. But I think you're right about the disengage. That combined with the fact that they weren't touched by the crit nerfs means they're sitting pretty right now.
In fact the new Essence Reaver was a pretty big buff, for Lucian at least.
I haven't read the most recent patch notes, but I don't think Rageblade was touched too much either, which benefits Kai'sa.
Tear wasn't hit very hard either, if at all iirc, so Ez is still happy with his core itemisation.

Edit: Kind of a perfect storm for these three. Everyone else was hit both stats wise and itemisation wise, whereas their stats and itemisation remain untouched, and their safety makes them valuable picks in a somewhat chaotic meta.


This meta is Ez Real as it gets.

So much Relentless Pursuit with all these kill lanes, no wonder Lucian is in too.

*ba dum tiss*

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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:14 am

Alvecia wrote:Tbf, Lucian mid has popped up on the fringes of the meta a couple times now. I suspect he's still not exactly efficient there. Doesn't even appear in the top 50 mid picks on EUW. But I think you're right about the disengage. That combined with the fact that they weren't touched by the crit nerfs means they're sitting pretty right now.
In fact the new Essence Reaver was a pretty big buff, for Lucian at least.
I haven't read the most recent patch notes, but I don't think Rageblade was touched too much either, which benefits Kai'sa.
Tear wasn't hit very hard either, if at all iirc, so Ez is still happy with his core itemisation.

Edit: Kind of a perfect storm for these three. Everyone else was hit both stats wise and itemisation wise, whereas their stats and itemisation remain untouched, and their safety makes them valuable picks in a somewhat chaotic meta.


This meta is Ez Real as it gets.

So much Relentless Pursuit with all these kill lanes, no wonder Lucian is in too.


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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:55 pm

Spite is a miraculous thing. Katarina gets an ignite kill on me, and taunts me with "EZ mid lane." I proceeded to make her and her entire team my bitches.
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I report anyone who type EZ out of principle, even if it's my own teammate.

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