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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Wed May 04, 2016 7:55 am

Doom Legions wrote:Just played a match against intermideates to test your theory. They didn't even try to move out of the way of my skillshots.
Also this new ice-cannon thingie is pretty neat.


That's odd. They used to dodge mine.

Then again... I missed like 7 updates before I started playing again last weekend so I wouldn't be surprised if they fixed that then. :P
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 7:57 am

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Just played a match against intermideates to test your theory. They didn't even try to move out of the way of my skillshots.
Also this new ice-cannon thingie is pretty neat.


That's odd. They used to dodge mine.

Then again... I missed like 7 updates before I started playing again last weekend so I wouldn't be surprised if they fixed that then. :P

In a 27 minute game against them I missed one skillshot, and that was when my targets where only just in range and they moved aside in the last second. Their reaction time is very slow, I think that's the main reason here.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed May 04, 2016 7:58 am

Doom Legions wrote:Just played a match against intermideates to test your theory. They didn't even try to move out of the way of my skillshots.
Also this new ice-cannon thingie is pretty neat.

Idk then, maybe I'm just unlucky.
That said, I've seen their apparant skill level vary widly all in one match. Horribly inconsistent.
Still, they're good for practice while I build my roster. I'm getting cloer to 30, but I'd still like to be able to buy a full 16 roster and get to know each one before tackling ranked.
Got Ashe, Jinx, Caitlyn, Nami, Zilean so far. Braum is definitely on the list.
6800 takes a fucking age tho.
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 8:00 am

Alvecia wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Just played a match against intermideates to test your theory. They didn't even try to move out of the way of my skillshots.
Also this new ice-cannon thingie is pretty neat.

Idk then, maybe I'm just unlucky.
That said, I've seen their apparant skill level vary widly all in one match. Horribly inconsistent.
Still, they're good for practice while I build my roster. I'm getting cloer to 30, but I'd still like to be able to buy a full 16 roster and get to know each one before tackling ranked.
Got Ashe, Jinx, Caitlyn, Nami, Zilean so far. Braum is definitely on the list.
6800 takes a fucking age tho.

I do advice you try PVP before you're 30, else you might be a bit blown away.

Yeah, getting that much IP takes a while..
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A looong while...
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 8:05 am

Ah shit. Veigar's passive nolonger gives him mana regen. Well, my early game is now officially dead.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed May 04, 2016 8:09 am

Doom Legions wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Idk then, maybe I'm just unlucky.
That said, I've seen their apparant skill level vary widly all in one match. Horribly inconsistent.
Still, they're good for practice while I build my roster. I'm getting cloer to 30, but I'd still like to be able to buy a full 16 roster and get to know each one before tackling ranked.
Got Ashe, Jinx, Caitlyn, Nami, Zilean so far. Braum is definitely on the list.
6800 takes a fucking age tho.

I do advice you try PVP before you're 30, else you might be a bit blown away.

Yeah, getting that much IP takes a while..
*Stares down at you from his 30k IP throne*
A looong while...

Please sir, may I have some more...

I do go on blind draft every now and then if I'm not interested in any on the rotation.
For the most part these days I come out ahead.
Though I had a lovely match where my team decided the best tactic would be to let me (Support Nami) solo bot against Sivir and Jax, while they fed Sion up top.
Joy.

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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 8:41 am

Alvecia wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:I do advice you try PVP before you're 30, else you might be a bit blown away.

Yeah, getting that much IP takes a while..
*Stares down at you from his 30k IP throne*
A looong while...

Please sir, may I have some more...

I do go on blind draft every now and then if I'm not interested in any on the rotation.
For the most part these days I come out ahead.
Though I had a lovely match where my team decided the best tactic would be to let me (Support Nami) solo bot against Sivir and Jax, while they fed Sion up top.
Joy.

Epic LCS tactics, I assure you xd
Atleast you seem to have rekt their botlane.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed May 04, 2016 8:56 am

Doom Legions wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Please sir, may I have some more...

I do go on blind draft every now and then if I'm not interested in any on the rotation.
For the most part these days I come out ahead.
Though I had a lovely match where my team decided the best tactic would be to let me (Support Nami) solo bot against Sivir and Jax, while they fed Sion up top.
Joy.

Epic LCS tactics, I assure you xd
Atleast you seem to have rekt their botlane.

Rekt is a strong word. I held the line.
Their jungling Sion got me killed most of the time.

Either the Sivir and Jax didn't know what the fuck they were doing or they didn't know what the fuck they were doing.

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Postby Miekzhemy » Wed May 04, 2016 9:05 am

Recently read over Taliyah's abilities. The champ looks cool as hell but her kit seems a little weak from what I've seen so far. The "control" aspect of her kit seems like it can be easily countered by nearly every gap-closing assassin in the game. I also wish her jungle run was a bit easier.

That Freljord skin looks boss though. :p
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Postby Alvecia » Wed May 04, 2016 9:14 am

Miekzhemy wrote:Recently read over Taliyah's abilities. The champ looks cool as hell but her kit seems a little weak from what I've seen so far. The "control" aspect of her kit seems like it can be easily countered by nearly every gap-closing assassin in the game. I also wish her jungle run was a bit easier.

That Freljord skin looks boss though. :p

I dunno, I mean, she definitely doesn't look like she'll be good for beginners, but in the right hands I think she could be devastating.
But then, that goes for most champions really.

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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 9:43 am

Alvecia wrote:
Miekzhemy wrote:Recently read over Taliyah's abilities. The champ looks cool as hell but her kit seems a little weak from what I've seen so far. The "control" aspect of her kit seems like it can be easily countered by nearly every gap-closing assassin in the game. I also wish her jungle run was a bit easier.

That Freljord skin looks boss though. :p

I dunno, I mean, she definitely doesn't look like she'll be good for beginners, but in the right hands I think she could be devastating.
But then, that goes for most champions really.

I'm thinking she'll be highly effective in group fights, but she's definetly no laner.
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Postby Miekzhemy » Wed May 04, 2016 9:46 am

Doom Legions wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I dunno, I mean, she definitely doesn't look like she'll be good for beginners, but in the right hands I think she could be devastating.
But then, that goes for most champions really.

I'm thinking she'll be highly effective in group fights, but she's definetly no laner.


I kinda see her as a backline caster who can set up fights and ganks rather than burst people down on her own. She'll definitely be a good teamfighter I bet.

The problem is, I feel, is that she's going to have an incredibly hard early game. The kit makes her so vulnerable to being ganked herself and her early jungle clear is abysmal from what I've seen. Anyone who picks a good counterjungler or ganker can just shit on her day.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed May 04, 2016 12:57 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Lulu is a support champ. I can shred people with her.
I play Gragas as support. He's tanky AND can smash skulls.
Same with Nautilus.
And Amumu.
And Maokai.
And Malphite.
And Thresh.
And Tahm Kench.
And Taric.

Braum SUCKS.

Come on man, that's pretty silly. A support doesn't suck just cause you can't go solo ham on the entire enemy team. If anything being able to do that with other supports is what's weird.
Personally I've been playing Braum ever since he came up on rotation and he's the most fun I've ever had.

A support who can't fight basically turns a game into a 4 v 5. After laning is done, you have to be able to contribute in the teamfights. Braum can't do that. Ergo, he sucks.
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Postby Amistrinal » Wed May 04, 2016 1:58 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Come on man, that's pretty silly. A support doesn't suck just cause you can't go solo ham on the entire enemy team. If anything being able to do that with other supports is what's weird.
Personally I've been playing Braum ever since he came up on rotation and he's the most fun I've ever had.

A support who can't fight basically turns a game into a 4 v 5. After laning is done, you have to be able to contribute in the teamfights. Braum can't do that. Ergo, he sucks.

Braum may not do much damage, but as a support he can PREVENT the most damage. Plus, he has his passive which, as long as you go around tagging every enemy champ, is very useful. His W is great for escaping and engaging, while his E is great for stuff. He does not feel useless at all when you block an MF ult, a jhin ult, a draven ult... His ult is a little meh, but it's a nice disrupt and engage/disengage tool.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed May 04, 2016 2:15 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Come on man, that's pretty silly. A support doesn't suck just cause you can't go solo ham on the entire enemy team. If anything being able to do that with other supports is what's weird.
Personally I've been playing Braum ever since he came up on rotation and he's the most fun I've ever had.

A support who can't fight basically turns a game into a 4 v 5. After laning is done, you have to be able to contribute in the teamfights. Braum can't do that. Ergo, he sucks.

A good support buffs teamates and nerfs enemies to the point that teamates count double and enemies count half. That's kind of how they're designed.
His q and auto male for easy and lengthy stun, his W negates damage dealt and his e basically neutralises any spellcast damaging spells. Even the killers, Lux's ult, Jhins ult, Caitlyns ult, and it heavily nerfs any subsequent attacks. His ult is a brilliant tool for jump in, peels and cast well can turn the tide of a teamfight.
A support isn't good if they can deal damage, that's what the other 4 chaps are for.
Just because a champ doesn't suit your playstyle doesn't make them suck, it just makes them unsuited for your playstyle. If you're trying to contribute to the team damage count with champs like Braum then you're playing them wrong

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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed May 04, 2016 2:17 pm

Amistrinal wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:A support who can't fight basically turns a game into a 4 v 5. After laning is done, you have to be able to contribute in the teamfights. Braum can't do that. Ergo, he sucks.

Braum may not do much damage, but as a support he can PREVENT the most damage. Plus, he has his passive which, as long as you go around tagging every enemy champ, is very useful. His W is great for escaping and engaging, while his E is great for stuff. He does not feel useless at all when you block an MF ult, a jhin ult, a draven ult... His ult is a little meh, but it's a nice disrupt and engage/disengage tool.

He can't prevent jack. If the enemy is a melee or magical champ, he's double useless. Cause that shield sure as Hell didn't block Malzahar's Space-Aids attack or Yasuo's ult.
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Postby Amistrinal » Wed May 04, 2016 2:30 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Amistrinal wrote:Braum may not do much damage, but as a support he can PREVENT the most damage. Plus, he has his passive which, as long as you go around tagging every enemy champ, is very useful. His W is great for escaping and engaging, while his E is great for stuff. He does not feel useless at all when you block an MF ult, a jhin ult, a draven ult... His ult is a little meh, but it's a nice disrupt and engage/disengage tool.

He can't prevent jack. If the enemy is a melee or magical champ, he's double useless. Cause that shield sure as Hell didn't block Malzahar's Space-Aids attack or Yasuo's ult.

Sure, it can't prevent space aids or yasuo's ult, but it can block yas's tornado. And Braum being useless against melee champs? Wow, thanks for getting right in range of my Q/AA. Mages? Well they get stunned, and any projectile is useless. Malzahar is kind of unique in that he doesn't have blockable projectiles, aside from his AA. But hey, Braum can block that majority of ranged autoattacks in the game, aside from vel, azir, and an empowered Viktor Q. I'd hardly call that nothing. Besides, for anything that does get through, he always has his W for a defense steroid.
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 3:44 pm

Supports that don't deal damage certainly don't suck, Ameri. I sometimes play Soraka support. She barely has any damage at all, but I make up for that by healing the shit out of my team, preventing them from dying and silencing the enemy team. Easy wins and I don't have to deal any damage myself.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed May 04, 2016 3:52 pm

Soraka has more than one damage spell. She also has a heal, a GLOBAL heal, and a silence. Also, I've seen her do PLENTY of damage.
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 3:55 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Soraka has more than one damage spell. She also has a heal, a GLOBAL heal, and a silence. Also, I've seen her do PLENTY of damage.

If you build her damage, sure, she can hurt you, but when you do that you might aswell grab an actual damage-focussed mage instead.
And yes, she got heals and a silence, but her damage sucks. Does that make her bad? Nu-uh. Just yesterday I fed my ADC a triple kill when the enemy jungler came in for a gank.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed May 04, 2016 4:07 pm

I'm done talking about this. Braum sucks. That's my stance, and it's not changing.
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Postby Geisenfried » Wed May 04, 2016 5:38 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:I'm done talking about this. Braum sucks. That's my stance, and it's not changing.


Your inability to play with or as him does not make him a terrible champ. Indeed, the fact that he's one of the most contested support champs competitively proves otherwise.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed May 04, 2016 6:32 pm

What the hell. My Mastery emote is gone.
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Fire the Ameri.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed May 04, 2016 7:15 pm

The new Vlad:

1. I can still lane because I've practiced the old Vlad so much and I can still manage to not die while keeping up with CS.

2. I can't team fight anymore.

Thank you Riot.

GAME OF THRONES SPOILER BELOW

You've essentially pulled a Locke Bolton on him.

''You think you're the SMARTEST champ alive. That everybody must bow and lick and scrap your boots. And if anything goes wrong all you have to do is sustain, sustain, sustain... well not anymore you don't. What are you going to say? I'd be careful about what you say next. Your old Tides of Blood ain't here to help you DPS. This will help you remember...''

*Launches 6.9

And now we have a one-handed Vladimir.
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Postby Miekzhemy » Thu May 05, 2016 8:10 am

Boot enchantments are gone too HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

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