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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue May 03, 2016 7:31 pm

Doom Legions wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Braum sucks.

Why don't you have faifth in the moustache?

Cause he's useless. His shield is rarely helpful, and he has one ability that actually does damage. Never playing him again.
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Postby Doom Legions » Tue May 03, 2016 7:32 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Why don't you have faifth in the moustache?

Cause he's useless. His shield is rarely helpful, and he has one ability that actually does damage. Never playing him again.

Yeah, he's sortof a CC tank, not an assasin or anything..
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Postby Kractero » Tue May 03, 2016 7:46 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Why don't you have faifth in the moustache?

Cause he's useless. His shield is rarely helpful, and he has one ability that actually does damage. Never playing him again.

Not everybody is meant to match your playstyle.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue May 03, 2016 7:55 pm

Doom Legions wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Cause he's useless. His shield is rarely helpful, and he has one ability that actually does damage. Never playing him again.

Yeah, he's sortof a CC tank, not an assasin or anything..

What CC? His useless stun, which requires you to walk up close to the Cuisanart that is a typical ADC and hit them 4 times? Yeah, super useful...
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Ameri does the impossible.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Doom Legions » Tue May 03, 2016 7:56 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Yeah, he's sortof a CC tank, not an assasin or anything..

What CC? His useless stun, which requires you to walk up close to the Cuisanart that is a typical ADC and hit them 4 times? Yeah, super useful...

Or land your Q. I assume you know of that.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue May 03, 2016 8:39 pm

Miekzhemy wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I might do that with new Vlad (once they rework him) if he gets better clears; he might since they are lowering Q's early cool down. However, the last time I tried Vlad JG he had a very hard time clearing early (he was always low on HP but maybe that's because I run AP runes and not CDR runes).

Once he is reworked he'll have more CC and burst in his kit; it could be a scary sight for a vampire-looking character to rush out of the bushes with a blood balloon in the air that goes pop and then for the enemy to get slowed 40% while taking a hit... I'll probably rush Cinderhulk and Rylais and then go full Tank so that late game he can be a team fighting Tank with tons of CCs and Ult capability.

New Vlad would also be a marginally better ADC since they are increasing his base AD damage with autos.


I always prefer cdr in terms of flat ap/ad runes on champs like that. Since I've gotten into playing Shaco so much I've started to use a lot more cdr, movement/attack speed, armor and mr with my rune pages to focus less on damage and more on keeping alive and on the move. The scaling armor/mr runes work well late game when playing champions that have armor/mr bonuses added to their kit like Poppy and Taric.

No idea how new Vlad will be with jungle though. I haven't read up on the mage update that much. The only thing that really scares me is the Malzahar update. That shit's gonna be scary.


Yeah I learned my lesson.

I went Vladimir ADC build, proceeded to get my teeth kicked in by the enemy Caitlyn who not only outranged me, but had ThunderLords armed and continually activated it with annoying combos and autos. Whenever I moved up to CS she would land an auto. It was a very bad game needless to say.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue May 03, 2016 8:50 pm

Doom Legions wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:What CC? His useless stun, which requires you to walk up close to the Cuisanart that is a typical ADC and hit them 4 times? Yeah, super useful...

Or land your Q. I assume you know of that.

Oh, the Q with the pitiful range and shitty hitbox? Boy, how I didn't get a penta with that thing eludes me.
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Ameri does the impossible.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue May 03, 2016 8:55 pm

I never work well with Braum. Braum players always go ham on the enemy duo even when minion positioning is bad and then they complain that I don't follow aggressively enough when they ''mark'' the enemy.

I'm like... ''dude... lets just farm ok?''
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Postby Thomas Insaniac » Tue May 03, 2016 9:29 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Or land your Q. I assume you know of that.

Oh, the Q with the pitiful range and shitty hitbox? Boy, how I didn't get a penta with that thing eludes me.


That's not the point, he's a Support Tank.

Not everything in the game is meant to be played for damage and damage isn't everything. It's a team game and supportive champions are pretty damn useful.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue May 03, 2016 9:33 pm

Thomas Insaniac wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Oh, the Q with the pitiful range and shitty hitbox? Boy, how I didn't get a penta with that thing eludes me.


That's not the point, he's a Support Tank.

Not everything in the game is meant to be played for damage and damage isn't everything. It's a team game and supportive champions are pretty damn useful.


To be fair I'd rather have Blitz, Thresh, Leona, or a damage support (ex Brand or Vel) over Braum any day.

The most useless though, is Bard.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue May 03, 2016 9:43 pm

Thomas Insaniac wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Oh, the Q with the pitiful range and shitty hitbox? Boy, how I didn't get a penta with that thing eludes me.


That's not the point, he's a Support Tank.

Not everything in the game is meant to be played for damage and damage isn't everything. It's a team game and supportive champions are pretty damn useful.

Lulu is a support champ. I can shred people with her.
I play Gragas as support. He's tanky AND can smash skulls.
Same with Nautilus.
And Amumu.
And Maokai.
And Malphite.
And Thresh.
And Tahm Kench.
And Taric.

Braum SUCKS.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue May 03, 2016 10:07 pm

http://oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/ ... h-69-notes

It looks like Riot DID respond to the demands from Vladimir's fans to raise the numbers for his sustain and damage. Q's normal healing has been restored and E's damage has been increased.

I cannot wait for 6.9...

Although I hear the new Mal will be a pain to duel against
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Postby Alvecia » Wed May 04, 2016 3:04 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Thomas Insaniac wrote:
That's not the point, he's a Support Tank.

Not everything in the game is meant to be played for damage and damage isn't everything. It's a team game and supportive champions are pretty damn useful.

Lulu is a support champ. I can shred people with her.
I play Gragas as support. He's tanky AND can smash skulls.
Same with Nautilus.
And Amumu.
And Maokai.
And Malphite.
And Thresh.
And Tahm Kench.
And Taric.

Braum SUCKS.

Come on man, that's pretty silly. A support doesn't suck just cause you can't go solo ham on the entire enemy team. If anything being able to do that with other supports is what's weird.
Personally I've been playing Braum ever since he came up on rotation and he's the most fun I've ever had.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed May 04, 2016 5:34 am

This new Vlad is UNHINGED... like blood-hungry crazy...

The old Vlad was like a chill bored immortal ''yeah whatever I'll just heal it back... let's just farm okay?''

The new Vlad is just hungry for blood all the time... with third Qs chunking MASSIVE amounts of health and blood balloons exploding that chunk your own health if you don't aim them properly. It's going to take a while to get used to this new paradigm...

Now it actually matters when you go all-in and when you poke defensively (the Hextech Belt is also an important part of my new strategy)...

we just had an all Mage team and destroyed the enemy due to the new balancing...
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 7:02 am

Alvecia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Lulu is a support champ. I can shred people with her.
I play Gragas as support. He's tanky AND can smash skulls.
Same with Nautilus.
And Amumu.
And Maokai.
And Malphite.
And Thresh.
And Tahm Kench.
And Taric.

Braum SUCKS.

Come on man, that's pretty silly. A support doesn't suck just cause you can't go solo ham on the entire enemy team. If anything being able to do that with other supports is what's weird.
Personally I've been playing Braum ever since he came up on rotation and he's the most fun I've ever had.

Indeed, Braum is a support who's task is to protect the ADC and he can have a great impact on a teamfight with his ult. Especially if you got a Yasuo on your team.
Though I'm starting to get the idea that Ameri has trouble landing skillshots..
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Postby Alvecia » Wed May 04, 2016 7:06 am

Doom Legions wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Come on man, that's pretty silly. A support doesn't suck just cause you can't go solo ham on the entire enemy team. If anything being able to do that with other supports is what's weird.
Personally I've been playing Braum ever since he came up on rotation and he's the most fun I've ever had.

Indeed, Braum is a support who's task is to protect the ADC and he can have a great impact on a teamfight with his ult. Especially if you got a Yasuo on your team.
Though I'm starting to get the idea that Ameri has trouble landing skillshots..

Skillshots are a bitch, tbf.
Edit: Braum's is annoying in that it's stopped by minions.
Which makes sense of course, but fuck me if I haven't fumbled a gank opportunity or lost a teammate cause some mindless drone wandered into the crossfire.
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 7:08 am

Alvecia wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Indeed, Braum is a support who's task is to protect the ADC and he can have a great impact on a teamfight with his ult. Especially if you got a Yasuo on your team.
Though I'm starting to get the idea that Ameri has trouble landing skillshots..

Skillshots are a bitch, tbf.

Practice is all it takes. I can land skillshots quite easily, regardless of what champ I play, because I practiced a lot.
Though if you have high ping, it does get difficult to land them, or to dodge them, or to even just play the game xd
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Wed May 04, 2016 7:10 am

Doom Legions wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Skillshots are a bitch, tbf.

Practice is all it takes. I can land skillshots quite easily, regardless of what champ I play, because I practiced a lot.
Though if you have high ping, it does get difficult to land them, or to dodge them, or to even just play the game xd


On the contrary, sometimes it helps. I recall one time I played Mundo and unexplainably landed each and every cleaver on their Shyvana, despite crippling lag. :P
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Postby Alvecia » Wed May 04, 2016 7:11 am

Doom Legions wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Skillshots are a bitch, tbf.

Practice is all it takes. I can land skillshots quite easily, regardless of what champ I play, because I practiced a lot.
Though if you have high ping, it does get difficult to land them, or to dodge them, or to even just play the game xd

True. For some weird reason my ping decided to hike up to 15k and stay there for 10 minutes of a game last night. Usually I'm at 42. Was pulling my hair out trying to figure out what was going one, never did, it just sorted itself out.
Skillshots are easy on other players who don't know your champ well (or who just aren't paying attention), and beginner bots.
Intermediate bots don't even get me started. I swear they cheat sometimes.
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 7:11 am

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Practice is all it takes. I can land skillshots quite easily, regardless of what champ I play, because I practiced a lot.
Though if you have high ping, it does get difficult to land them, or to dodge them, or to even just play the game xd


On the contrary, sometimes it helps. I recall one time I played Mundo and unexplainably landed each and every cleaver on their Shyvana, despite crippling lag. :P

Hm, the Lag Gods work in mysterious ways.
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 7:13 am

Alvecia wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Practice is all it takes. I can land skillshots quite easily, regardless of what champ I play, because I practiced a lot.
Though if you have high ping, it does get difficult to land them, or to dodge them, or to even just play the game xd

True. For some weird reason my ping decided to hike up to 15k and stay there for 10 minutes of a game last night. Usually I'm at 42. Was pulling my hair out trying to figure out what was going one, never did, it just sorted itself out.
Skillshots are easy on other players who don't know your champ well (or who just aren't paying attention), and beginner bots.
Intermediate bots don't even get me started. I swear they cheat sometimes.

Really? Bots? Those braindead things? Those predictable piles of junk? In my experience they don't even try anymore, they're dead long before they even realise they just got stunned.
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Wed May 04, 2016 7:14 am

Doom Legions wrote:
Alvecia wrote:True. For some weird reason my ping decided to hike up to 15k and stay there for 10 minutes of a game last night. Usually I'm at 42. Was pulling my hair out trying to figure out what was going one, never did, it just sorted itself out.
Skillshots are easy on other players who don't know your champ well (or who just aren't paying attention), and beginner bots.
Intermediate bots don't even get me started. I swear they cheat sometimes.

Really? Bots? Those braindead things? Those predictable piles of junk? In my experience they don't even try anymore, they're dead long before they even realise they just got stunned.


The way they dodge things like hooks is a real bitch though.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed May 04, 2016 7:17 am

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Really? Bots? Those braindead things? Those predictable piles of junk? In my experience they don't even try anymore, they're dead long before they even realise they just got stunned.


The way they dodge things like hooks is a real bitch though.

^This
Like I said, beginner bots? No problem. Intermediate I've seen some fooking ridiculous dodges.
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 7:17 am

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Really? Bots? Those braindead things? Those predictable piles of junk? In my experience they don't even try anymore, they're dead long before they even realise they just got stunned.


The way they dodge things like hooks is a real bitch though.

Myeah, I'll admit that landing hooks with Thresh is quite a pain, due to the projectile's slow speed and the slow casting animation. It has a real funky hitbox though, unless they fixed that recently.
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Postby Doom Legions » Wed May 04, 2016 7:49 am

Just played a match against intermideates to test your theory. They didn't even try to move out of the way of my skillshots.
Also this new ice-cannon thingie is pretty neat.
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