Star Wars Top 100 List

[Bearon]

Entities such as the Ones and Abeloth shall not be included along with most of the Ancients who's placement it based mostly on interpretation.

1. Darth Sidious.
2. Luke Skywalker.
3. Valkorian.

Note: Top 3 dependent on starting distance.

4. Yoda.
5. Darth Plagueis.
6/7. Darth Caedus/Darth Krayt.
8/9. Galen Marek/Revan
10. Darth Vader.

[Bearon]

Darth Vader

[Bearon]

Darth Tyranus

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Easily JarJar.

[Bearon]

Easily JarJar.

I was expecting this but it didn't make me cringe any less.

[Eol Sha]

I think Luke should be below Darth Sidious. I don't ever recall him being capable of feats more awe-inspiring or powerful than what Sidious was able to do (post-resurrection at least).

[Bearon]

I think Luke should be below Darth Sidious. I don't ever recall him being capable of feats more awe-inspiring or powerful than what Sidious was able to do (post-resurrection at least).

Not force wise you're right but physically and skill wise he was likely Sidious's superior. Also I believe his force abilities were on par considering he neutralized a black hole, was able to take apart and rebuild his father's fortress on Coruscant with TK and use TP from across the Galaxy. It pretty much directly mirrors the scale of Sidious's own feats like being able to take apart the Imperial Palace, create hyperspace worm holes and manipulate the population of Byss.

[Slovenya]

I still think count dooku was a good guy

[Bearon]

I still think count dooku was a good guy

He was actually going to use Sidious and the Dark Side for his own ends which could be considered noble till Sidious corrupted him. He's rather tragic.

Also that reminds me I need to place Dooku...

[Eol Sha]

I think Luke should be below Darth Sidious. I don't ever recall him being capable of feats more awe-inspiring or powerful than what Sidious was able to do (post-resurrection at least).

Not force wise you're right but physically and skill wise he was likely Sidious's superior. Also I believe his force abilities were on par considering he neutralized a black hole, was able to take apart and rebuild his father's fortress on Coruscant with TK and use TP from across the Galaxy. It pretty much directly mirrors the scale of Sidious's own feats like being able to take apart the Imperial Palace, create hyperspace worm holes and manipulate the population of Byss.

Hmm. Interesting points. On Sidious' side, though, he was able to manipulate and hide his true nature in front of and while conversing with several of the most powerful Jedi not only of his time, but also to have ever existed. For years on end at that. All while manipulating the Galactic Senate and shaping galactic events on a scale not really seen before or since.

[Eol Sha]

I still think count dooku was a good guy

He was actually going to use Sidious and the Dark Side for his own ends which could be considered noble till Sidious corrupted him. He's rather tragic.

Also that reminds me I need to place Dooku...

Are there any EU properties that bother to delve into Dooku's past before and after his resignation from the Jedi Order?

[Baltenstein]

To be honest, I'm glad they got rid of the Dark Empire storyline. It undid literally everything the heroes had achieved at the end of ROTJ.

[Bearon]

Not force wise you're right but physically and skill wise he was likely Sidious's superior. Also I believe his force abilities were on par considering he neutralized a black hole, was able to take apart and rebuild his father's fortress on Coruscant with TK and use TP from across the Galaxy. It pretty much directly mirrors the scale of Sidious's own feats like being able to take apart the Imperial Palace, create hyperspace worm holes and manipulate the population of Byss.

Hmm. Interesting points. On Sidious' side, though, he was able to manipulate and hide his true nature in front of and while conversing with several of the most powerful Jedi not only of his time, but also to have ever existed. For years on end at that. All while manipulating the Galactic Senate and shaping galactic events on a scale not really seen before or since.

True but that more shows off his extensive knowledge in the force and its more arcane workings ( I.E. force concealment, Sith magic ) then actual combat ability which is what this list is supposed to represent. In knowledge Sidious definitely takes the edge ( though it should be noted that Luke is likely extensively learned in the Light Side along with the ways of the force in general considering he was also Sidious's apprentice for a brief time.

[Bearon]

He was actually going to use Sidious and the Dark Side for his own ends which could be considered noble till Sidious corrupted him. He's rather tragic.

Also that reminds me I need to place Dooku...

Are there any EU properties that bother to delve into Dooku's past before and after his resignation from the Jedi Order?

There's a brief series ( maybe a book or two ) that delves into his time as a Padawan but other then that the most you get are flashbacks in various Clone Wars novels and books like Plagueis, The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones.

[Bearon]

To be honest, I'm glad they got rid of the Dark Empire storyline. It undid literally everything the heroes had achieved at the end of ROTJ.

Well it was pretty naive of George to think that the Sith ( and thus the Dark Side ) would have been defeated forever after Sidious was destroyed. Almost childlike actually considering he was essentially saying "Good conquered evil and they all lived happily ever after."

[Baltenstein]

Of course conflict and injustice would still exist, but DE really overdid it by rendering ALL of the heroes' achievements null and void. I mean, at the end of ROTJ:

- Luke has successfully resisted the Dark Side.
- Palpatine is dead.
- The Empire's super weapon destroyed.
- The Empire itself either decisively crippled or defeated outright (it's not made clear)

ALL of the above gets undone. Oh, and Darth Vader's (THE central character of the movies) self-sacrifice gets rendered completely meaningless. Nope, do not want.

[Bearon]

Of course conflict and injustice would still exist, but DE really overdid it by rendering ALL of the heroes' achievements null and void. I mean, at the end of ROTJ:

- Luke has successfully resisted the Dark Side.
- Palpatine is dead.
- The Empire's super weapon destroyed.
- The Empire itself either decisively crippled or defeated outright (it's not made clear)

ALL of the above gets undone. Oh, and Darth Vader's (THE central character of the movies) self-sacrifice gets rendered completely meaningless. Nope, do not want.

True, but maybe that was the writer's way of flipping the bird to old Georgie. Regardless it's a well written series that helped to encourage EU writers which I'm grateful for.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Easily JarJar.

I was expecting this but it didn't make me cringe any less.

You don't understand, that is Jar Jar's power. He fills people with such rage and hatred he's a Sith recruitment poster.

[Bearon]

I was expecting this but it didn't make me cringe any less.

You don't understand, that is Jar Jar's power. He fills people with such rage and hatred he's a Sith recruitment poster.

True, but his personal power leaves something to be desired. :3

[Tarsonis Survivors]

You don't understand, that is Jar Jar's power. He fills people with such rage and hatred he's a Sith recruitment poster.

True, but his personal power leaves something to be desired. :3

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Uc84U04Sk

You sure?

[Bearon]

True, but his personal power leaves something to be desired. :3

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Uc84U04Sk

You sure?

Now that you mention it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGjndtth3RA

[Bearon]

Next update will include Talzin, Ventress and Savage.

[Eol Sha]

Fisto and Koon need to be above ROTJ Luke, but still below Windu. Even if their portrayal wasn't particularly flattering in RotS they were still Jedi Masters. Not only that, but both (Fisto for sure) were able to successfully fight off General Grievous. Obi-Wan should also be above Grievous. Above Maul as well. Talzin should be above Kenobi as well.

[Bearon]

Fisto and Koon need to be above ROTJ Luke, but still below Windu. Even if their portrayal wasn't particularly flattering in RotS they were still Jedi Masters. Not only that, but both (Fisto for sure) were able to successfully fight off General Grievous. Obi-Wan should also be above Grievous. Above Maul as well. Talzin should be above Kenobi as well.

Fisto and Koon are below RotJ Luke for the following reasons.

Luke is their equal in endurance and durability, is physically stronger and may be slightly faster ( debatable in regards to Fisto ). He's also more skilled then them as he's outdueled Vader. While he doesn't have many force feats and this would be an advantage for the Jedi masters I believe he could resist most of their force attacks and win in a duel against them.

Fisto was able to beat a pre prime Grievous because of a form advantage. I don't remember Koon doing the same.

Obi Wan also retains a form advantage over Grievous and is less deadly then the general overall.

Maul and Obi Wan are equals against eachother but Maul is more deadly overall.

Talzin will definitely be above Kenobi.

[Eol Sha]

Fisto and Koon need to be above ROTJ Luke, but still below Windu. Even if their portrayal wasn't particularly flattering in RotS they were still Jedi Masters. Not only that, but both (Fisto for sure) were able to successfully fight off General Grievous. Obi-Wan should also be above Grievous. Above Maul as well. Talzin should be above Kenobi as well.

Fisto and Koon are below RotJ Luke for the following reasons.

Luke is their equal in endurance and durability, is physically stronger and may be slightly faster ( debatable in regards to Fisto ). He's also more skilled then them as he's outdueled Vader. While he doesn't have many force feats and this would be an advantage for the Jedi masters I believe he could resist most of their force attacks and win in a duel against them.

Fisto was able to beat a pre prime Grievous because of a form advantage. I don't remember Plo Koon doing the same.

Obi Wan also retains a form advantage over Grievous and is less deadly then the general overall.

Maul and Obi Wan are equals against eachother but Maul is more deadly overall.

Talzin will definitely be above Kenobi.

I think out duels gives too much credit to Luke given the way the fight ended. I mean, shit, Vader was basically controlling the fight until he threatened to corrupt Leia.

What do you mean by pre-prime? The Plo Koon point is probably correct.

I don't really think so given that he defeated Grievous. Not only that, but has Grievous ever actually defeated Obi-Wan.

How do you mean?

Good.