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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed May 17, 2017 1:32 am

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Ameriganastan wrote:2 more episodes out there online.

Who keeps on leaking these things, and why isn't Hasbro suing them for copyright infringement?

I think it's just airing early somewhere else. I'm not complaining.
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Postby Frenequesta » Wed May 17, 2017 2:08 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Frenequesta wrote:Who keeps on leaking these things, and why isn't Hasbro suing them for copyright infringement?

I think it's just airing early somewhere else. I'm not complaining.

I know Canada's getting a few early, but this seems to be more.

At this stage I'm already too used to it.
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Was I and Ameriganastan the only ones who talked about Parental Glideance?
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Postby Frenequesta » Wed May 17, 2017 10:51 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Was I and Ameriganastan the only ones who talked about Parental Glideance?

I strictly keep myself to official American releases only.

The others just don't seem to comment anymore. Sad, because I've intended my reviews to generate discussion.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Was I and Ameriganastan the only ones who talked about Parental Glideance?

Looks that way.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu May 18, 2017 3:21 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Was I and Ameriganastan the only ones who talked about Parental Glideance?

I strictly keep myself to official American releases only.

The others just don't seem to comment anymore. Sad, because I've intended my reviews to generate discussion.

Well, the Canadian Releases are official too. :hug:

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Was I and Ameriganastan the only ones who talked about Parental Glideance?

Looks that way.

Also, I'm glad to see that we agree on that episode being good.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 20, 2017 8:44 am

After a royal problem's description nearly broke the fandom in the comments, a royal problem turned out really good.

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Postby Frenequesta » Sat May 20, 2017 9:48 am

Well, Herp, here's my take on the last Scootalove episode:

I so thought this was going to be about helicopter parenting. Not quite (though the analogy is certainly hinted at as it involves flying pegasi).

So we meet the last undiscovered family of the Mane Six--Rainbow Dash's Bow Hothoof and Windy Whistles. I just compared the stallion seen in "Games Ponies Play" that many have speculated as Dash's father to Bow Hothoof and have concluded that the one in "Games Ponies Play" may have been an uncle--while they share the same coat color, the cutie marks are significantly different.

In some ways this episode was episodes like "Daring Don't" and "Stranger than Fan Fiction" reversed--focusing on the celebrity's point of view in dealing with obnoxious fans. The fact that the fans here were the parents makes it not a perfect mirror image because of the different dynamics, of course, but I can't help but wonder if the experiences there influenced Dash's thought process as well as her childhood memories.

I'm not entirely happy with the message here--"appreciate your parents, even if they are obnoxiously supportive of you for every single thing, as they give you confidence to succeed." Not necessarily that is not a good message for a child as a child to learn--but it's not an ideal message for the child when she grows up and becomes a parent herself. The support Dash's parent's gave her was so undifferentiated and unqualified it seems more likely to me that Dash would have tuned it out and become more apathetic than ambitious. (In that regard, when we look back at Dash's reflection, she doesn't seem to acknowledge her own ambition as a driving force to succeed when she attributes her parent's support as the key to her success. I would have expected Scootaloo to help her qualify it, having finally learned that she wasn't always the best.) A better parent, in my mind, would be supportive, but also encourage the child to grow, and that simply wasn't apparent here.

Scootaloo's review of Dash's Wonderbolt history struck me as mostly filler that could have been truncated to allow for more consequences of Dash's fallout with her parents qua parents. Scootaloo's threat to not make Dash the subject of her report, while understandable, seems like an overreaction given how much she's already done. (Who else would she find? The show has given her basically no other significant relationships besides the other Crusaders, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, and maybe Twilight Sparkle, none of which have nearly inspired her as much as Dash.)

Of course, if Scootaloo had enough foresight enough to get Twilight involved, the episode would have been over very, very quickly as Twilight would simply tell her parents to pipe down a little. Or maybe not.

I don't heap my full, fanatic praise on this episode, but neither am I going to yell at it. It is definitely on the good side of the line, though.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 20, 2017 10:53 am

Frenequesta wrote:Well, Herp, here's my take on the last Scootalove episode:

I so thought this was going to be about helicopter parenting. Not quite (though the analogy is certainly hinted at as it involves flying pegasi).

So we meet the last undiscovered family of the Mane Six--Rainbow Dash's Bow Hothoof and Windy Whistles. I just compared the stallion seen in "Games Ponies Play" that many have speculated as Dash's father to Bow Hothoof and have concluded that the one in "Games Ponies Play" may have been an uncle--while they share the same coat color, the cutie marks are significantly different.

In some ways this episode was episodes like "Daring Don't" and "Stranger than Fan Fiction" reversed--focusing on the celebrity's point of view in dealing with obnoxious fans. The fact that the fans here were the parents makes it not a perfect mirror image because of the different dynamics, of course, but I can't help but wonder if the experiences there influenced Dash's thought process as well as her childhood memories.

I'm not entirely happy with the message here--"appreciate your parents, even if they are obnoxiously supportive of you for every single thing, as they give you confidence to succeed." Not necessarily that is not a good message for a child as a child to learn--but it's not an ideal message for the child when she grows up and becomes a parent herself. The support Dash's parent's gave her was so undifferentiated and unqualified it seems more likely to me that Dash would have tuned it out and become more apathetic than ambitious. (In that regard, when we look back at Dash's reflection, she doesn't seem to acknowledge her own ambition as a driving force to succeed when she attributes her parent's support as the key to her success. I would have expected Scootaloo to help her qualify it, having finally learned that she wasn't always the best.) A better parent, in my mind, would be supportive, but also encourage the child to grow, and that simply wasn't apparent here.

Scootaloo's review of Dash's Wonderbolt history struck me as mostly filler that could have been truncated to allow for more consequences of Dash's fallout with her parents qua parents. Scootaloo's threat to not make Dash the subject of her report, while understandable, seems like an overreaction given how much she's already done. (Who else would she find? The show has given her basically no other significant relationships besides the other Crusaders, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, and maybe Twilight Sparkle, none of which have nearly inspired her as much as Dash.)

Of course, if Scootaloo had enough foresight enough to get Twilight involved, the episode would have been over very, very quickly as Twilight would simply tell her parents to pipe down a little. Or maybe not.

I don't heap my full, fanatic praise on this episode, but neither am I going to yell at it. It is definitely on the good side of the line, though.

See, I had the problem with the moral too. But, the argument could be made that the moral was "Don't snap at your parents."

I didn't see the Scootaloo and Dashes family stuff as filler, but more bonding. This in my opinion makes the ending of episode the episode even better.

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Postby Frenequesta » Sat May 20, 2017 11:39 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Frenequesta wrote:Well, Herp, here's my take on the last Scootalove episode:

I so thought this was going to be about helicopter parenting. Not quite (though the analogy is certainly hinted at as it involves flying pegasi).

So we meet the last undiscovered family of the Mane Six--Rainbow Dash's Bow Hothoof and Windy Whistles. I just compared the stallion seen in "Games Ponies Play" that many have speculated as Dash's father to Bow Hothoof and have concluded that the one in "Games Ponies Play" may have been an uncle--while they share the same coat color, the cutie marks are significantly different.

In some ways this episode was episodes like "Daring Don't" and "Stranger than Fan Fiction" reversed--focusing on the celebrity's point of view in dealing with obnoxious fans. The fact that the fans here were the parents makes it not a perfect mirror image because of the different dynamics, of course, but I can't help but wonder if the experiences there influenced Dash's thought process as well as her childhood memories.

I'm not entirely happy with the message here--"appreciate your parents, even if they are obnoxiously supportive of you for every single thing, as they give you confidence to succeed." Not necessarily that is not a good message for a child as a child to learn--but it's not an ideal message for the child when she grows up and becomes a parent herself. The support Dash's parent's gave her was so undifferentiated and unqualified it seems more likely to me that Dash would have tuned it out and become more apathetic than ambitious. (In that regard, when we look back at Dash's reflection, she doesn't seem to acknowledge her own ambition as a driving force to succeed when she attributes her parent's support as the key to her success. I would have expected Scootaloo to help her qualify it, having finally learned that she wasn't always the best.) A better parent, in my mind, would be supportive, but also encourage the child to grow, and that simply wasn't apparent here.

Scootaloo's review of Dash's Wonderbolt history struck me as mostly filler that could have been truncated to allow for more consequences of Dash's fallout with her parents qua parents. Scootaloo's threat to not make Dash the subject of her report, while understandable, seems like an overreaction given how much she's already done. (Who else would she find? The show has given her basically no other significant relationships besides the other Crusaders, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, and maybe Twilight Sparkle, none of which have nearly inspired her as much as Dash.)

Of course, if Scootaloo had enough foresight enough to get Twilight involved, the episode would have been over very, very quickly as Twilight would simply tell her parents to pipe down a little. Or maybe not.

I don't heap my full, fanatic praise on this episode, but neither am I going to yell at it. It is definitely on the good side of the line, though.

See, I had the problem with the moral too. But, the argument could be made that the moral was "Don't snap at your parents."

I didn't see the Scootaloo and Dashes family stuff as filler, but more bonding. This in my opinion makes the ending of episode the episode even better.

In some ways I think that the relationship between Scootaloo and Rainbow Dash is already so familiar to even the youngest viewers that it doesn't need too many examples, but of course, it is the best bonding of the show, and I can't fault the writers for heaping more in that view. :hug:

Also, couple other things I just thought of:

(1) If I were Scootaloo, I would have started Dash's Wonderbolt history with the Best Young Flier's Competition in "Sonic Rainboom," where she got praised by them for saving the Wonderbolts and Rarity from some neck cracks, and going off on a fly with them--I wouldn't doubt if that was a contributing factor in accepting her into the Wonderbolt Academy.
(2) In Dash's flashbacks, Lightning Dust was a participant in the races. That seems a little inconsistent with the interaction she and Dash had in "Wonderbolts Academy," where they apparently met for the first time. If it's not just a blip, however, it certainly adds a layer to the dynamic the two had in that episode.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 20, 2017 12:18 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
See, I had the problem with the moral too. But, the argument could be made that the moral was "Don't snap at your parents."

I didn't see the Scootaloo and Dashes family stuff as filler, but more bonding. This in my opinion makes the ending of episode the episode even better.

In some ways I think that the relationship between Scootaloo and Rainbow Dash is already so familiar to even the youngest viewers that it doesn't need too many examples, but of course, it is the best bonding of the show, and I can't fault the writers for heaping more in that view. :hug:

Also, couple other things I just thought of:

(1) If I were Scootaloo, I would have started Dash's Wonderbolt history with the Best Young Flier's Competition in "Sonic Rainboom," where she got praised by them for saving the Wonderbolts and Rarity from some neck cracks, and going off on a fly with them--I wouldn't doubt if that was a contributing factor in accepting her into the Wonderbolt Academy.
(2) In Dash's flashbacks, Lightning Dust was a participant in the races. That seems a little inconsistent with the interaction she and Dash had in "Wonderbolts Academy," where they apparently met for the first time. If it's not just a blip, however, it certainly adds a layer to the dynamic the two had in that episode.

More scootalove is always welcome. :hug:
(2) Maybe Lightning Dust just forgot?

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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat May 20, 2017 2:31 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:After a royal problem's description nearly broke the fandom in the comments, a royal problem turned out really good.

Quite. Nice to know millennia old, demigod princesses can be as snippy as regular siblings.
Also, Evil Celestia. That shit was righteously awesome.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 20, 2017 2:32 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:After a royal problem's description nearly broke the fandom in the comments, a royal problem turned out really good.

Quite. Nice to know millennia old, demigod princesses can be as snippy as regular siblings.
Also, Evil Celestia. That shit was righteously awesome.

Yeah, that was pretty awesome.

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Because I think its a pretty smart move on the writer's part. They've massively overdeveloped their main characters to the point where nothing challenges them anymore and they've already done everything they can do with their shallow character archetypes already like 6 or 7 times. Don't believe me? How many times have they done the "fluttershy mans up/learns to face her fears" plot now? Like 50? A bazillion? That's because Fluttershy is a stereotypical shy character and there is only one direction you can really go with a shy character.

Putting in new characters, even if some of them fit the same character types as the old ones, is kind of the only way to revitalize a stagnant show without putting in too much effort.

There's a certain point where your Level 20 God-Characters should just pass into legend and you should roll up new Level 1s to struggle through with.
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Postby Dragoria » Sat May 20, 2017 9:26 pm

I'm glad the princesses are getting more personality lately. This episode was pretty good.
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Dragoria wrote:I'm glad the princesses are getting more personality lately. This episode was pretty good.

Whoever they brought on this season really has been nailing it. There's only one bad episode in the whole bunch.
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Postby Dragoria » Sat May 20, 2017 10:16 pm

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Dragoria wrote:I'm glad the princesses are getting more personality lately. This episode was pretty good.

Whoever they brought on this season really has been nailing it. There's only one bad episode in the whole bunch.
I wasn't able to watch most of the "Mac gets a crush" episode because cringe and just skipped to like, the last 3 minutes or so. So having a good episode today was good for my mood.
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Dragoria wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Whoever they brought on this season really has been nailing it. There's only one bad episode in the whole bunch.

I wasn't able to watch most of the "Mac gets a crush" episode because cringe and just skipped to like, the last 3 minutes or so. So having a good episode today was good for my mood.

Then you missed the hilarity of Big Mac's first musical number. I was dying.
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Postby Dragoria » Sat May 20, 2017 10:24 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Dragoria wrote:I wasn't able to watch most of the "Mac gets a crush" episode because cringe and just skipped to like, the last 3 minutes or so. So having a good episode today was good for my mood.

Then you missed the hilarity of Big Mac's first musical number. I was dying.
He sang in "Apples To The Core" in "Pinkie Apple Pie".
I'll go youtube the song up.

Edit: And "Find The Music In You" in...whatever episode that was.
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Postby Dragoria » Sat May 20, 2017 10:29 pm

Hm. That song was...still very unenjoyable for me.
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Postby Frenequesta » Sat May 20, 2017 10:32 pm

Dang it guys, pipe down, you're tempting me to break my schedule. :p

Dragoria wrote:Edit: And "Find The Music In You" in...whatever episode that was.

"Filli Vanilli."
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat May 20, 2017 10:33 pm

Dragoria wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Then you missed the hilarity of Big Mac's first musical number. I was dying.
He sang in "Apples To The Core" in "Pinkie Apple Pie".
I'll go youtube the song up.

Edit: And "Find The Music In You" in...whatever episode that was.

Fine, first solo musical number, Mr. Semantics.
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Postby Dragoria » Sat May 20, 2017 10:36 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Dragoria wrote: He sang in "Apples To The Core" in "Pinkie Apple Pie".
I'll go youtube the song up.

Edit: And "Find The Music In You" in...whatever episode that was.

Fine, first solo musical number, Mr. Semantics.
This wasn't a solo, "I Can't Beliebe It's Not Butterface" and his backup singers sang half the song.

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Dragoria wrote:Edit: And "Find The Music In You" in...whatever episode that was.

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Dragoria wrote:This wasn't a solo, "I Can't Beliebe It's Not Butterface" and his backup singers sang half the song.

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Dragoria
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Dragoria » Sat May 20, 2017 10:50 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Dragoria wrote:This wasn't a solo, "I Can't Beliebe It's Not Butterface" and his backup singers sang half the song.

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Minus ten points for not using a colorful horse as reaction image.
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Que Sera, Sera

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