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Postby Kiaculta » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:34 pm

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Cadonica wrote:Still Life was pretty weak with only one really good song on it. Blackwater Park on the other had is pure gold.


For some reason I could never get into Blackwater Park. I respect it and Harvest in particular is a great song, but I just never bothered to listen to the album as a whole enough for it to sink in. My Arms, Your Hearse, on the other hand, I absolutely love.


Still Life is definitely easier to listen to from front to back but Blackwater Park has better songs, Harvest, Bleak, and the title track to be specific.
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Postby Cosumar » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:39 pm

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Cadonica wrote:Still Life was pretty weak with only one really good song on it. Blackwater Park on the other had is pure gold.


For some reason I could never get into Blackwater Park. I respect it and Harvest in particular is a great song, but I just never bothered to listen to the album as a whole enough for it to sink in. My Arms, Your Hearse, on the other hand, I absolutely love.

:hug: My Arms, Your Hearse is the only Opeth album I truly love. April Ethereal is one of the best metal songs ever. But the whole thing is just beautiful and crushing.

Orchid, Morningrise, Blackwater Park and Watershed all have some great songs too, but aren't as consistently amazing as MA,YH.
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Postby Kiaculta » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:52 pm

Cosumar wrote:
Bodobol wrote:
For some reason I could never get into Blackwater Park. I respect it and Harvest in particular is a great song, but I just never bothered to listen to the album as a whole enough for it to sink in. My Arms, Your Hearse, on the other hand, I absolutely love.

:hug: My Arms, Your Hearse is the only Opeth album I truly love. April Ethereal is one of the best metal songs ever. But the whole thing is just beautiful and crushing.

Orchid, Morningrise, Blackwater Park and Watershed all have some great songs too, but aren't as consistently amazing as MA,YH.


Compared to the rest of Opeth's discography, Orchid is underrated.
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Postby Szertica » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:06 pm

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Postby NeuPolska » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:34 pm

Speaking of Opeth, I'll be buying Deliverance pretty soon.

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Postby Faschist Deutsch Reich » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:08 pm

Kiaculta wrote:Compared to the rest of Opeth's discography, Orchid is underrated.

I don't personally like that album, but putting aside my bias point of view I would have to agree with you on that.

I have listened to all the pre "Heritage" albums and I found them all to be great, with the exception of "Orchid" and "Ghost Reveries". I am not sure as to why I can't seem to enjoy "Orchid" (it might grow on me with more listens), but I found "Ghost Reveries" to be boring as fuck throughout.

Anyway my favourite Opeth album would be "My Arms, Your Hearse", but a couple of their other albums give it a good run for its money.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:24 pm

Blackwater Park a great albvm that I still don't get worth a shit 9.something/10 wovld be confvsed again
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Postby Kiaculta » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:43 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:Blackwater Park a great albvm that I still don't get worth a shit 9.something/10 wovld be confvsed again


That's prog death for you.
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Postby Revanchism » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:50 pm

Can someone explain why and how Grave Miasma manage to be so amazing?
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:31 pm

Revanchism wrote:Can someone explain why and how Grave Miasma manage to be so amazing?

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Postby Cosumar » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:03 pm

Revanchism wrote:Can someone explain why and how Grave Miasma manage to be so amazing?

Just listened to the first song from the album. Reeeally solid stuff. Kinda reminds me of Dead Congregation.
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Postby Demen 2 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:24 pm

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Demen 2 wrote:ITT: thinking mallcore is only metalcore

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You must not have heard of Integrity. Not "Mallcore"

is this a slipknot cover band?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:37 pm

Cosumar wrote:
Revanchism wrote:Can someone explain why and how Grave Miasma manage to be so amazing?

Just listened to the first song from the album. Reeeally solid stuff. Kinda reminds me of Dead Congregation.

Yeah, Grave Miasma is unholy bliss. Saw them live on stage during the Roadburn festival years ago, my copy of the Realm Of Evoked Doom EP tends to be played regularly.
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Postby Demen 2 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:52 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Cosumar wrote:Just listened to the first song from the album. Reeeally solid stuff. Kinda reminds me of Dead Congregation.

Yeah, Grave Miasma is unholy bliss. Saw them live on stage during the Roadburn festival years ago, my copy of the Realm Of Evoked Doom EP tends to be played regularly.

this is some solid stuff. really enjoy it, actually. maybe even enough to try to get back into metal as much i used to


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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:58 pm

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The New Sea Territory wrote:
You must not have heard of Integrity. Not "Mallcore"

is this a slipknot cover band?

Integrity has existed for a while longer than Slipknot, actually.
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Postby Demen 2 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:19 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Demen 2 wrote:is this a slipknot cover band?

Integrity has existed for a while longer than Slipknot, actually.

that was not an actual question.

it's very okay, i just don't like integrity that much. they fall into the category of bad 90s metalcore


which is pretty much over half of the 90s hardcore movement
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:23 pm

Demen 2 wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Integrity has existed for a while longer than Slipknot, actually.

that was not an actual question.

it's very okay, i just don't like integrity that much. they fall into the category of bad 90s metalcore


which is pretty much over half of the 90s hardcore movement

Personally I like to think that Integrity is actually a pretty good band, especially in comparison to acts such as Madball and Biohazard. Not that it really matters, since I'm more into stuff such as Rorschach, His Hero Is Gone, From Ashes Rise, Tragedy and Bloody Phoenix.
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Postby Demen 2 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:27 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Demen 2 wrote:that was not an actual question.

it's very okay, i just don't like integrity that much. they fall into the category of bad 90s metalcore


which is pretty much over half of the 90s hardcore movement

Personally I like to think that Integrity is actually a pretty good band, especially in comparison to acts such as Madball and Biohazard. Not that it really matters, since I'm more into stuff such as Rorschach, His Hero Is Gone, From Ashes Rise, Tragedy and Bloody Phoenix.

good tastes.

i hate integrity's vocalist. the reason i call it a slipknot cover band is because he sounds like corey taylor
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:29 pm

Opeth is one of those bands I like decently but would probably never care to actually own an album of because they're not interesting enough to me for that.
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Postby Demen 2 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:35 pm

Corrian wrote:Opeth is one of those bands I like decently but would probably never care to actually own an album of because they're not interesting enough to me for that.

they're just not interesting honestly

it's an achievement in itself for a fucking death metal band to bore someone, and wow does opeth bore me
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:38 pm

Actually, death metal boring me seems to be very easy. Partly why it took me so freaking long to get into death metal.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:40 pm

Demen 2 wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Personally I like to think that Integrity is actually a pretty good band, especially in comparison to acts such as Madball and Biohazard. Not that it really matters, since I'm more into stuff such as Rorschach, His Hero Is Gone, From Ashes Rise, Tragedy and Bloody Phoenix.

good tastes.

i hate integrity's vocalist. the reason i call it a slipknot cover band is because he sounds like corey taylor


It would be more accurate to say that Corey Taylor sounds like him. He was recorded first.
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Postby Demen 2 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:43 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Demen 2 wrote:good tastes.

i hate integrity's vocalist. the reason i call it a slipknot cover band is because he sounds like corey taylor


It would be more accurate to say that Corey Taylor sounds like him. He was recorded first.

okay, Corey Taylor sounds like the guy from integrity

who has a shitty voice
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:54 pm

Corrian wrote:Actually, death metal boring me seems to be very easy. Partly why it took me so freaking long to get into death metal.


Agreed.

Death metal is a genre of metal different from any other. It has a large variety of styles which sound very different from one another, yet, ironically, within these styles, it is difficult to find bands that stick out from one another. This is why I think death metal gets boring. There is only so much variety within a subgenre, and death metal artists have been scrapping the barrel of new ideas trying to make unique music for a while now.

It's not that any of the music is bad, it just, at times, seems like once you've listened to the discography of a few big names within a particular style of death metal, you've heard pretty much that entire style's potential for new material, with rare exceptions. When I do find death metal that sounds unique:

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Demen 2 wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
It would be more accurate to say that Corey Taylor sounds like him. He was recorded first.

okay, Corey Taylor sounds like the guy from integrity

who has a shitty voice


That's pretty much the entirety of punk vocalists. Terrible voices.
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:31 am

Corrian wrote:Actually, death metal boring me seems to be very easy. Partly why it took me so freaking long to get into death metal.

Exactly. There are only few death metal bands that I really like, when in thrash, black and doom metal there are dozens of bands I love.
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