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Postby Cadonica » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:37 am

On another note, now I got the another shipment.

Pleasure to Kill LP is original pressing from 1986. Win! Another "jackpot" was Hell on Earth compilation.

There was also a surprise: I had not ordered Surut Pois Ja Kukka Rintaan by Viikate yet I got it... it's not that great of an album but hey, free music is free so I ain't complaining :p
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:55 am

Cadonica wrote:On another note, now I got the another shipment.

Pleasure to Kill LP is original pressing from 1986. Win! Another "jackpot" was Hell on Earth compilation.

There was also a surprise: I had not ordered Surut Pois Ja Kukka Rintaan by Viikate yet I got it... it's not that great of an album but hey, free music is free so I ain't complaining :p

You must have amassed enough bonus points in order to receive that title.
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Postby Cadonica » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:58 am

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Cadonica wrote:On another note, now I got the another shipment.

Pleasure to Kill LP is original pressing from 1986. Win! Another "jackpot" was Hell on Earth compilation.

There was also a surprise: I had not ordered Surut Pois Ja Kukka Rintaan by Viikate yet I got it... it's not that great of an album but hey, free music is free so I ain't complaining :p

You must have amassed enough bonus points in order to receive that title.

Maybe. The only kind of bonus I'm aware is that you get one stamp for every 17€ you use and after 10 stamps you get 17€ discount.
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:10 am

This thread got real nerdy, real fast.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:47 am

Cadonica wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:You must have amassed enough bonus points in order to receive that title.

Maybe. The only kind of bonus I'm aware is that you get one stamp for every 17€ you use and after 10 stamps you get 17€ discount.

Perhaps you've got a secret admirer that sends you gifts with your orders.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Cadonica » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:56 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Maybe. The only kind of bonus I'm aware is that you get one stamp for every 17€ you use and after 10 stamps you get 17€ discount.

Perhaps you've got a secret admirer that sends you gifts with your orders.

Everything is possible in the world so seriously strange.
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Postby Cadonica » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:56 pm

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Video version

Old gold :p
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Postby NeuPolska » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:04 pm

Kar finally posted a gif worth posting?

But the video version is much better. I can't click it right now but if it's the original with the metal playing in the background as the guy's doing home improvement stuff then we're on the same page. A for effort though, at least.

Isn't construction one of the most popular lines of work among metalheads?

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Postby Hjalmarr » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:03 pm

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I'd usually use bass around 50-75%, mids near 100% and treble between 80 and 100%. Pre-gain should be between 6-8, maybe more if the amp doesn't have very saturated distortion. Post-gain is volume typically, so set it to taste.

Hjalmarr wrote:scoop mids and turn everything else up basically


Scooped mids sound like shit unless your amp really emphasizes them. Scooped mids also lead to your guitar vanishing behind everyone else if you're playing with other people because mid-range is what cuts through.

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Real engines have 4 valves per cylinder and dual overhead cams. ;)

lol dude i am a bass player and was joking.

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:08 pm

Hjalmarr wrote:
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I'd usually use bass around 50-75%, mids near 100% and treble between 80 and 100%. Pre-gain should be between 6-8, maybe more if the amp doesn't have very saturated distortion. Post-gain is volume typically, so set it to taste.



Scooped mids sound like shit unless your amp really emphasizes them. Scooped mids also lead to your guitar vanishing behind everyone else if you're playing with other people because mid-range is what cuts through.



Real engines have 4 valves per cylinder and dual overhead cams. ;)

lol dude i am a bass player and was joking.

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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:22 pm

Cosumar wrote:You? Corrian? Paying attention to lyrics? :p

But yes, I love them too. If you're listening to All Is One, most of the songs are about yearning for peace in their country (Israel) and putting aside religious differences. The hope and sorrow of "Let The Truce Be Known" is particularly poignant. And then there's songs like "Ya Benaye" which are just plain fun :D

Kinda. I just heard the lyrics "We all shoot in the name of God" and I was like "I need to pay attention to these lyrics!"

And Let the Truce Be Known is probably my favorite on this album.

I'm pretty sure at least 2 out of 3 artists/bands I know from Israel sing about this kind of stuff (One I know has a song that has the line that is something like "We're down here waiting in the garden of sin", though that isn't the exact line).
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:12 pm

NeuPolska wrote:Kar finally posted a gif worth posting?

But the video version is much better. I can't click it right now but if it's the original with the metal playing in the background as the guy's doing home improvement stuff then we're on the same page. A for effort though, at least.

Isn't construction one of the most popular lines of work among metalheads?


Makes sense to me. ;)
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Any thoughts on the band Beyond Creation?
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I've been listening to way too much Arkona lately...

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Postby Kar-Esseria » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:12 pm

You know what, I change my mind on Amon Amarth. Some of their stuff I like, some of their stuff I don't.

I'm on the fence as far as they're concerned.

In other news, I take back a bit of what I've said about death metal. It's not as atrocious as I claimed, and the average death metal band isn't completely inept when it comes to playing instruments (though they all tend to sound pretty much the same), and while I dislike death growls, I find them much more tolerable than black metal shrieking.

Seriously, that shrieking is fucking annoying as hell. How do you people listen to that and not go deaf?

But regardless, I greatly exaggerated death metal. It's not awful, but it's just not my cup of tea. I still like black metal more, but only when they aren't shrieking like a little demon girl.

Death growls still sound like cookie monsters hungry stomach if it was a dog though.
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Postby NeuPolska » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:16 pm

Kar-Esseria wrote:You know what, I change my mind on Amon Amarth. Some of their stuff I like, some of their stuff I don't.

I'm on the fence as far as they're concerned.

In other news, I take back a bit of what I've said about death metal. It's not as atrocious as I claimed, and the average death metal band isn't completely inept when it comes to playing instruments (though they all tend to sound pretty much the same), and while I dislike death growls, I find them much more tolerable than black metal shrieking.

Seriously, that shrieking is fucking annoying as hell. How do you people listen to that and not go deaf?

But regardless, I greatly exaggerated death metal. It's not awful, but it's just not my cup of tea. I still like black metal more, but only when they aren't shrieking like a little demon girl.

Death growls still sound like cookie monsters hungry stomach if it was a dog though.

Well now see this is progress.

I might be slitting my own wrists here but which albums of their's do you not like? Which do you like?

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Postby Kar-Esseria » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:20 pm

NeuPolska wrote:
Kar-Esseria wrote:You know what, I change my mind on Amon Amarth. Some of their stuff I like, some of their stuff I don't.

I'm on the fence as far as they're concerned.

In other news, I take back a bit of what I've said about death metal. It's not as atrocious as I claimed, and the average death metal band isn't completely inept when it comes to playing instruments (though they all tend to sound pretty much the same), and while I dislike death growls, I find them much more tolerable than black metal shrieking.

Seriously, that shrieking is fucking annoying as hell. How do you people listen to that and not go deaf?

But regardless, I greatly exaggerated death metal. It's not awful, but it's just not my cup of tea. I still like black metal more, but only when they aren't shrieking like a little demon girl.

Death growls still sound like cookie monsters hungry stomach if it was a dog though.

Well now see this is progress.

I might be slitting my own wrists here but which albums of their's do you not like? Which do you like?


I've never really listened to a whole album of theirs, I don't think.

It's more like, songs.

For example, I didn't like Embrace of the Endless Ocean but I did like The Pursuit of Vikings.
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Postby NeuPolska » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:24 pm

Kar-Esseria wrote:I've never really listened to a whole album of theirs, I don't think.

It's more like, songs.

For example, I didn't like Embrace of the Endless Ocean but I did like The Pursuit of Vikings.

I really have to try hard to not bash you for not liking Embrace of the Endless Ocean. I love that song.

The Pursuit of Vikings is a commonly liked song, but a good song nonetheless. You should seriously consider listening to a full album though, the first time I listened to Amon Amarth I plunged straight into Twilight Of The Thunder God without any previous experience in death metal. And it's pretty easy to see where that got me :p I wouldn't have found over half of the music I currently listen to if it wasn't for coming into contact with that album.

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Postby Kar-Esseria » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:27 pm

NeuPolska wrote:
Kar-Esseria wrote:I've never really listened to a whole album of theirs, I don't think.

It's more like, songs.

For example, I didn't like Embrace of the Endless Ocean but I did like The Pursuit of Vikings.

I really have to try hard to not bash you for not liking Embrace of the Endless Ocean. I love that song.

The Pursuit of Vikings is a commonly liked song, but a good song nonetheless. You should seriously consider listening to a full album though, the first time I listened to Amon Amarth I plunged straight into Twilight Of The Thunder God without any previous experience in death metal. And it's pretty easy to see where that got me :p I wouldn't have found over half of the music I currently listen to if it wasn't for coming into contact with that album.


I might do that. I also didn't like War of the Gods.

On an unrelated note, what do you guys think of Grand Magus?
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Postby Bodobol » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:12 pm

Kiaculta wrote:Any thoughts on the band Beyond Creation?


GOOD SHIT GOOD SHIT I don't listen to much tech death but I love BC. Hoping to see them live eventually, they played in a city I used to live in not too long ago. I'm trying to learn Coexistence on guitar, and I can play it decengly up until the solo which I've just started working on.

edit: also their (former?) bassist Dominic is a god, check out his other band Teramobil.
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Postby Cosumar » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:25 pm

Kar-Esseria wrote:For example, I didn't like Embrace of the Endless Ocean but I did like The Pursuit of Vikings.

The Pursuit of Vikings was the first song AA song I liked too. Their synchronized headbanging in the music video is perfect :D
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Postby Faschist Deutsch Reich » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:14 pm

Bodobol wrote:
Kiaculta wrote:Any thoughts on the band Beyond Creation?

GOOD SHIT GOOD SHIT I don't listen to much tech death but I love BC.

A while back I thought that I was the only one here that liked them, but it seems that I am not at all alone. :hug:

Kiaculta wrote:Any thoughts on the band Beyond Creation?

The Aura = best Techdeath album IMO. (I have said this once before, but it is necessary to say it again)

To be honest the first time I heard BC I thought that their music was pretty boring and I wasn't a big fan on some of the vocals, but after giving them a second try my opinion completely changed. After hearing their albums in full I was completely blown away by the quality of musicianship and their ability to actually write a good song, which is often the weakness for many Techdeath bands.
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Postby Bodobol » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:19 pm

Faschist Deutsch Reich wrote:
Bodobol wrote:GOOD SHIT GOOD SHIT I don't listen to much tech death but I love BC.

A while back I thought that I was the only one here that liked them, but it seems that I am not at all alone. :hug:

Kiaculta wrote:Any thoughts on the band Beyond Creation?

The Aura = best Techdeath album IMO. (I have said this once before, but it is necessary to say it again)

To be honest the first time I heard BC I thought that their music was pretty boring and I wasn't a big fan on some of the vocals, but after giving them a second try my opinion completely changed. After hearing their albums in full I was completely blown away by the quality of musicianship and their ability to actually write a good song, which is often the weakness for many Techdeath bands.


That describes my experience with them perfectly; I'm by no means a tech death fan because of the issue of actual songwriting, but BC's songs are actually... songs. Took me a bit to get into them; I still need to listen to Earthborn Evolution. But yeah, The Aura is easily my favorite tech death album as well.
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