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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:44 am

NeuPolska wrote:Besides, even Linkin Park say that they aren't metal.


Because they haven't been since Meteora, Jesus, have you been listening?

Cosumar wrote:If you like them, you almost certainly enjoy their compatriots Gamma Ray. Somewhere Out In Space, Land of the Free and No World Order are top-notch.

My favorite power metal band from outside Germany is motherfucking Lost Horizon. Both of their albums are amazingsauce, so you can't go wrong with anything by them. A Flame To The Ground Beneath is my personal choice however.

If you want something that combines power metal and folk metal, give Elvenking a try. Their first album Heathenreel and last album The Pagan Manifesto are really good.


I've already heard Blind Guardian, but I'll check this other guys out.

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Pretty much my response. I mean, who doesn't like power metal?

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Cadonica wrote:Power: Sabaton


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Impaled Nazarene wrote:People on this thread have tastes!? I though we were all tasteless bastards


According to each other, we are. :p

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Postby Cadonica » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:51 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Super quick list I made up as I wrote :p

Alternative*: Slipknot - Vol III: Subliminal Verses
Avant-garde: Opium Warlords - Taste My Sword of Understanding
Black: Impaled Nazarene - Nihil
-Atmospheric: Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
-Depressive suicidal: Exiled from Light - There Is No Beauty Left Here...
-Progressive: Galaktik Cancer Squad - Eroberer
-Raw: Satanic Warmaster - Strength & Honour
-Symphonic: Anorexia Nervosa - Redemption Process
Black/thrash: Urn - Soul Destroyers
Black/death: Behemoth - Pandemonic Incantations
Death: Asphyx - Deathhammer
-Brutal: Torsofuck - Erotic Diarrhea Fantasy
-Melodic: Children of Bodom - Hate Crew Deathroll
-Symphonic: Fleshgod Apocalypse - Labyrinth
Death/thrash: The Crown - Doomsday King
Doom: Candlemass - Ancient Dreams
Drone doom: Sunn O))) - Monoliths & Dimensions
Experimental**: Arkhamin Kirjasto - Torches Ablaze
Folk: Korpiklaani - Ukon Wacka
Funeral doom: Elysian Blaze - Blood Geometry
Gothic: Paradise Lost - Tragic Idol
Grindcore: Repulsion - Horrified
Groove: Pantera - Cowboys from Hell
Heavy: Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations
-Symphonic: Nightwish - Century Child
Industrial: Turmion Kätilöt - Hoitovirhe
Post: Sólstafir - Köld
Power: Sabaton - Coat of Arms
-Symphonic: Avantasia - The Mystery of Time: A Rock Epic
Progressive: Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy
Psychedelic: Oranssi Pazuzu - Muukalainen Puhuu
Sludge: Cult of Luna - Cult of Luna
Speed: Blind Guardian - Battalions of Fear
Stoner: Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Thrash: Kreator - Pleasure to Kill
Viking: Falkenbach - Asa

* umbrella term for genres NOT fitting with the rest of the list.
** I see avant-garde and experimental as different genres while they could be considered as one :p


Exiled From Light is in no way a good representation of depressive black metal. Xasthur, early Forgotten Tomb and Thy Light are much better examples.

The list wasn't about representation, it was a list of my favorite albums within each genre/sub genre. Xasthur and Thy Light are essential but their best albums aren't as good as There Is No Beauty.

If you want representation, I would've said Xasthur, Trist, Happy Days or Thy Light. Forgotten Tomb isn't that good. IMO.

Likewise, Lost Horizon is way better representation of power metal even if Coat of Arms happens to be my fav within the genre.
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:04 am

Gamma Ray is good. But then again, it's power metal, so that's a given. :p
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Postby Kiaculta » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:27 am

Kar-Esseria wrote:Gamma Ray is good. But then again, it's power metal, so that's a given. :p


Considering your personality and lifestyle, Dragonforce might be a match made in heaven.
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Postby Cosumar » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:42 am

Kar-Esseria wrote:I've already heard Blind Guardian, but I'll check this other guys out.

But have you listened to ALL of their classic albums??!!!? *rabid foaming at the mouth*

Kar-Esseria wrote:Gamma Ray is good. But then again, it's power metal, so that's a given. :p

Blind Guardian and Gamma Ray are good friends. Their singers guest feature in each others' songs sometimes ("Farewell" and "Lost In The Twilight Hall", for example).

What Gamma Ray did you listen to?

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NeuPolska wrote:Besides, even Linkin Park say that they aren't metal.


Because they haven't been since Meteora, Jesus, have you been listening?


I don't think Linkin Park have ever considered themselves a metal band. Hybrid Theory is one of my beloved albums, but it's not a pure metal album. Sure it has some metal influences, but it has stronger rock, pop and punk aspects. It's closer to rap rock and alternative than metal.

But that doesn't apply to everything under the nu metal umbrella. I very much consider the Korn debut a metal album. One of the heaviest, darkest metal albums I know. Basically, just think of "nu metal" as a hybrid genre where some bands lean more towards metal than others.
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NeuPolska wrote:How it feels to listen to this album:

It feels like I'm Braveheart (William Wallace), and as I put on my war paint I'm leading a massive army of strong shirtless warriors through forests and plains, over rivers and mountains, across ravines and chasms, and then we meet the tyrannical King and his Knights. I lift a massive two-handed sword, the gems in its handle glistening in the sun. I order the charge, and my warriors charge into the King's men. As my men cut down the knights, I'm on a horse leaping high over their heads, bringing my sword down on all those around me as the horse lands. The horse dies but I stand up and spin, cutting through every knight around me. Soon the enemy King approaches, and I rip off my chest armor before giving a mighty battle cry heard from Valhalla itself. I charge, but the King pulls out a wicked battleaxe, and our weapons clash, a massive burst of energy coming from the steel. Suddenly, I yell and overpower the King, and cut him in the torso. He seethes and we fight, clashing sword and axe, with every parry manifesting into a fierce blue bolt of lightening.

Finally, I cut into the King, and through his body. He falls, blood coming from his mouth. I raise my bloodied sword with both hands on the handle and all my warriors cheer at the heavens. The reign of tyranny has ended, though at a cost. I've been hit heavily, and I'm beginning to bleed out. Suddenly, a ray of golden light comes down on me and my sword. The gems in the sword's handle begin to glow brightly, and the sword begins to carry me up to the sky. Angels come down with harps, ridding me of any aches. God himself meets me, and blesses my sword with the power to slay any foe, and grants me immortality so long as I continue to uphold righteousness and honor. My horse is resurrected, now with wings and immortality for all eternity. I accept and come back down to my warriors, carried by only the most beautiful of angels. With honor and glory we have saved the land from evil and now a new age of peace and prosperity can begin, led by me as I soar through the skies on my horse, sword in hand.

When I thought the movie couldn't get any more historically inaccurate, you had to top it.

People prefer idiotic revisionism over historical reality.
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Postby The Lendol Archipelago » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:53 am

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Kiaculta wrote:When I thought the movie couldn't get any more historically inaccurate, you had to top it.

People prefer idiotic revisionism over historical reality.

Goddamnit people.
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Hurdegaryp wrote:People prefer idiotic revisionism over historical reality.

Goddamnit people.

Fun fact: the Scots did not yet wear kilts during the days of William Wallace.
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Postby The Lendol Archipelago » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:00 am

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The Lendol Archipelago wrote:Goddamnit people.

Fun fact: the Scots did not yet wear kilts during the days of William Wallace.

And even when they did, they were more like togas worn by Romans than skirts, source: I'm Scottish :p
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Postby Kiaculta » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:00 am

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The Lendol Archipelago wrote:Goddamnit people.

Fun fact: the Scots did not yet wear kilts during the days of William Wallace.


I wrote an entire essay on the movie in uni.
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Hurdegaryp wrote:Fun fact: the Scots did not yet wear kilts during the days of William Wallace.


I wrote an entire essay on the movie in uni.

Did you draw attention to the fuck ups as well as the inaccuracies?
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The Lendol Archipelago wrote:
Kiaculta wrote:
I wrote an entire essay on the movie in uni.

Did you draw attention to the fuck ups as well as the inaccuracies?


Mostly the inaccuracies.


Dat fake horse tho.
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Hurdegaryp wrote:Fun fact: the Scots did not yet wear kilts during the days of William Wallace.

And even when they did, they were more like togas worn by Romans than skirts, source: I'm Scottish :p

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the kilt as we know it today was designed in the 18th century, right?
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The Lendol Archipelago wrote:And even when they did, they were more like togas worn by Romans than skirts, source: I'm Scottish :p

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the kilt as we know it today was designed in the 18th century, right?


Yeah, the 1720s.
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Postby Kiaculta » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:14 am

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Hurdegaryp wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but the kilt as we know it today was designed in the 18th century, right?


Yeah, the 1720s.


And by a British guy, I believe.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:19 am

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The Lendol Archipelago wrote:Yeah, the 1720s.

And by a British guy, I believe.

That goes without saying, since everybody on the British isles is British. Surely you were not trying to say that the Scottish kilt, proud Scottish symbol of Scottish cultural heritage, was the brainchild of an Englishman, because that would be ironically horrible.
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Kiaculta wrote:And by a British guy, I believe.

That goes without saying, since everybody on the British isles is British. Surely you were not trying to say that the Scottish kilt, proud Scottish symbol of Scottish cultural heritage, was the brainchild of an Englishman, because that would be ironically horrible.

Actually, the man credited with their invention was a quaker called Thomas Rawlinson from Lancashire.
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Postby Kiaculta » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:24 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Kiaculta wrote:And by a British guy, I believe.

That goes without saying, since everybody on the British isles is British. Surely you were not trying to say that the Scottish kilt, proud Scottish symbol of Scottish cultural heritage, was the brainchild of an Englishman, because that would be ironically horrible.


I apologize, that's what I meant. Being retarded today. I believe his name was Thomas Rawlinson.

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Hurdegaryp wrote:That goes without saying, since everybody on the British isles is British. Surely you were not trying to say that the Scottish kilt, proud Scottish symbol of Scottish cultural heritage, was the brainchild of an Englishman, because that would be ironically horrible.

Actually, the man credited with their invention was a quaker called Thomas Rawlinson from Lancashire.


Thank you.
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:30 am

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Kar-Esseria wrote:Gamma Ray is good. But then again, it's power metal, so that's a given. :p


Considering your personality and lifestyle, Dragonforce might be a match made in heaven.


Sabaton > DragonForce

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Kar-Esseria wrote:I've already heard Blind Guardian, but I'll check this other guys out.

But have you listened to ALL of their classic albums??!!!? *rabid foaming at the mouth*

Kar-Esseria wrote:Gamma Ray is good. But then again, it's power metal, so that's a given. :p

Blind Guardian and Gamma Ray are good friends. Their singers guest feature in each others' songs sometimes ("Farewell" and "Lost In The Twilight Hall", for example).

What Gamma Ray did you listen to?

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Because they haven't been since Meteora, Jesus, have you been listening?


I don't think Linkin Park have ever considered themselves a metal band. Hybrid Theory is one of my beloved albums, but it's not a pure metal album. Sure it has some metal influences, but it has stronger rock, pop and punk aspects. It's closer to rap rock and alternative than metal.

But that doesn't apply to everything under the nu metal umbrella. I very much consider the Korn debut a metal album. One of the heaviest, darkest metal albums I know. Basically, just think of "nu metal" as a hybrid genre where some bands lean more towards metal than others.


I disagree, Linkin Park's first two albums were nu metal in every sense of the word.

And no, I haven't listened to all their classic albums, chill homie, dayum.

Also, it was Somewgere Out in Space.

The Lendol Archipelago wrote:And even when they did, they were more like togas worn by Romans than skirts, source: I'm Scottish :p


I'm Scot(ch)-Irish myself.

And I can't stand historical inaccuracies. They infuriate me. I'm a major history nerd so it pisses me off when they make things so historically inaccurate like Braveheart was. They looked like fucking barbarians, I mean, seriously? Jesus, it was the 13th century, not the 5th century.
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Postby Kiaculta » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:35 am

Funny enough, I always thought that King Edward I was the one character who seemed to be portrayed close to his historical counterpart.


Dat defenestration scene tho.
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:37 am

Kiaculta wrote:Funny enough, I always thought that King Edward I was the one character who seemed to be portrayed close to his historical counterpart.


Dat defenestration scene tho.


Oddly enough, despite it's historical inaccuracies and portrayal of 13th century Scotsmen as barbarians, I believe the film is credited with reviving interest in Scottish patriotism. :unsure:
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Kar-Esseria wrote:
Kiaculta wrote:Funny enough, I always thought that King Edward I was the one character who seemed to be portrayed close to his historical counterpart.


Dat defenestration scene tho.


Oddly enough, despite it's historical inaccuracies and portrayal of 13th century Scotsmen as barbarians, I believe the film is credited with reviving interest in Scottish patriotism. :unsure:


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Postby Cosumar » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:43 am

:eyebrow: Why do I even bother debating you Kar when you're just going to reply without even properly reading my post.

Glad you liked that Gamma Ray album though - it's my favorite one. Hopefully your reading comprehension was only impaired because you were jamming too hard to Beyond the Black Hole.
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Kar-Esseria
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:44 am

Kiaculta wrote:
Kar-Esseria wrote:
Oddly enough, despite it's historical inaccuracies and portrayal of 13th century Scotsmen as barbarians, I believe the film is credited with reviving interest in Scottish patriotism. :unsure:


Congratulations for copying Wikipedia. That's a good adult living in his mom's basement.


We're not doing this again Kia.
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Don't call them ISIS/ISIL/IS, call them Daesh. They hate that.

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Kar-Esseria
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:45 am

Cosumar wrote::eyebrow: Why do I even bother debating you Kar when you're just going to reply without even properly reading my post.

Glad you liked that Gamma Ray album though - it's my favorite one. Hopefully your reading comprehension was only impaired because you were jamming too hard to Beyond the Black Hole.


What did I misread?

And actually, I'm listening to A Flame to the Ground Beneath.
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Don't call them ISIS/ISIL/IS, call them Daesh. They hate that.

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