Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:30 am
Nice one man! Personally a female can growl like a motherfuck if she can be a decipherable vocalist. Like Chuck and Johan.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:30 amPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:31 amNice one man! Personally a female can growl like a motherfuck if she can be a decipherable vocalist. Like Chuck and Johan.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:32 amBlack needs to be kvlt sounding as possible but can be used for more melodic and symphonic sounds. Needs maximum low fi buzz
Also i love EQUIMANTHORN
thrash amp needs to be able to pull off these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL19beIJSE0
this would be nice too
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:04 amFor your information, women have far superior singing voices (in my own honest opinion), and there need to be more (intelligible) female singers in rock and metal.
Besides that, growling is still and will always be the dumbest form of vocals there are. Seriously. They might as well just not sing at all, it wouldn't change anything. What the fuck is the point of singing if no one can understand what the fuck you're saying?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:11 amCadonica wrote:Since you wanted recs and you had doom under "not heard but willing to try", I copy-paste my old doom recs post from earlier:Cadonica wrote:Traditional doom
Candlemass
Cold Mourning
KYPCK
Mourn
Penance
Reverend Bizarre
Saint Vitus
Scald
Solsitce
Stillborn
Funeral doom
Thergothon (drummer is nowadays a songwriter and producer of pop duo PMMP)
Skepticism
Elysian Blaze (with black metal influence)
Nortt (with black metal influence)
The Howling Void
Comatose Vigil
Additions: Electric Wizard's Dopethrone is essential stoner doom album.
Most of it wasn't bad but not really memorable (to me, anyway), except for Mourn and Cold Mourning which weren't that great.
Didn't listen to the funeral doom.
Also, you misspelled Solstice btw.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:15 amKar-Esseria wrote:Also, you misspelled Solstice btw.
I know but I was too lazy to fix it because I copy-pasted it on my phone.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:59 amThurses wrote:What's post-metal?
Pretty much just atmospheric sludge metal, because it doesn't seem to really be a legitimate genre. Though I just kinda think of it as metal with post-rock influences. I could share a few examples.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:00 pmPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:07 pmAlso, I joke about death metal just being a bunch of cookie monsters all the time, so I don't really see that as an insult. Just a joke. And it's practically true for most of the bands.
Also, I like female and male vocalists about the same, but 90% of the female vocals in metal I've heard bore me. I WISH they were more interesting but most I find just aren't...
Also, I like female and male vocalists about the same, but 90% of the female vocals in metal I've heard bore me. I WISH they were more interesting but most I find just aren't...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:11 pmCorrian wrote:Also, I joke about death metal just being a bunch of cookie monsters all the time, so I don't really see that as an insult. Just a joke. And it's practically true for most of the bands.
Same here
Besides, cookie monster's speech is perfectly intelligible
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:54 pmNot when he's stuffing his face full of cookies.
Bro, do you even Sesame Street? Sesame Street is more metal than Oscar's trash can.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:11 pmIf there's anything about Kar that I've learned the past week...it's that he's the reason why people think 'Mericans are ignorant of everything except for freedom and guns (and oil!).
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:33 pmNeuPolska wrote:If there's anything about Kar that I've learned the past week...it's that he's the reason why people think 'Mericans are ignorant of everything except for freedom and guns (and oil!).
American's are ignorant of freedom, too, since most developed countries have better freedom than we do yet we pretend we're the only country with it
. We're a delusional country.*Is bad at not avoiding off topic posts*
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:39 pmKar-Esseria wrote:Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
I know really, she should be unoriginal and just sing pretty like girls are supposed to, huh?
Maybe you and Varg might get along.
For your information, women have far superior singing voices (in my own honest opinion), and there need to be more (intelligible) female singers in rock and metal.
Besides that, growling is still and will always be the dumbest form of vocals there are. Seriously. They might as well just not sing at all, it wouldn't change anything. What the fuck is the point of singing if no one can understand what the fuck you're saying?
I'm so sorry that tough strong women who can scare men with their talent aren't allowed to be in the metal community. Angela Gossow, Alissa White-Gluz, and Satan knows how many others who I really should listen to (someone give me some good "female fronted" death or black metal please!) better get back in the kitchen where they belong! Katy Perry is fucking metal!
For the record, clean singing can be pretty fucking dumb too. And you're starting to sound like my grandmother. Again.
Corrian wrote:NeuPolska wrote:If there's anything about Kar that I've learned the past week...it's that he's the reason why people think 'Mericans are ignorant of everything except for freedom and guns (and oil!).
American's are ignorant of freedom, too, since most developed countries have better freedom than we do yet we pretend we're the only country with it
*Is bad at not avoiding off topic posts*
Indeed, we are pretty stupid. Sad but true. And I've been as guilty of it as anyone else.
We're also pretty ignorant of guns. Or at least basic gun safety.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:17 pmNeuPolska wrote:If there's anything about Kar that I've learned the past week...it's that he's the reason why people think 'Mericans are ignorant of everything except for freedom and guns (and oil!).
I'm much smarter than I appear or act, honest.
Kiaculta wrote:Kar-Esseria wrote:
For your information, women have far superior singing voices (in my own honest opinion), and there need to be more (intelligible) female singers in rock and metal.
Besides that, growling is still and will always be the dumbest form of vocals there are. Seriously. They might as well just not sing at all, it wouldn't change anything. What the fuck is the point of singing if no one can understand what the fuck you're saying?
I'm so sorry that tough strong women who can scare men with their talent aren't allowed to be in the metal community. Angela Gossow, Alissa White-Gluz, and Satan knows how many others who I really should listen to (someone give me some good "female fronted" death or black metal please!) better get back in the kitchen where they belong! Katy Perry is fucking metal!
For the record, clean singing can be pretty fucking dumb too. And you're starting to sound like my grandmother. Again.Corrian wrote:American's are ignorant of freedom, too, since most developed countries have better freedom than we do yet we pretend we're the only country with it
*Is bad at not avoiding off topic posts*
Indeed, we are pretty stupid. Sad but true. And I've been as guilty of it as anyone else.
We're also pretty ignorant of guns. Or at least basic gun safety.
Your nonsensical sarcasm aside, yes clean vocals can be stupid sometimes, but unlike growling, they aren't stupid 99% of the time due to be unintelligible.
Again, what the fuck is the point of singing when no one can understand what the fuck you're saying?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:21 pmImpaled Nazarene wrote:NeuPolska wrote:You're going to need to be waaay more specific on what kind of sound you're trying to get.
Black needs to be kvlt sounding as possible but can be used for more melodic and symphonic sounds. Needs maximum low fi buzz
Also i love EQUIMANTHORN
thrash amp needs to be able to pull off these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL19beIJSE0
this would be nice too
Since I haven't memorized every single metal amp out there, I'll have to get back to you on that, but I'll be looking through a few amp brands I know and see if anything comes close. Keep in mind that an overdrive/distortion pedal helps a lot too, in case you get an amp that doesn't quite meet your distortion standards. What's your price range (in other words, what's the most you're willing/able to pay)?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:27 pmKar-Esseria wrote:Again, what the fuck is the point of singing when no one can understand what the fuck you're saying?
>implying lyrics are the only reason for vocals
Harsh vocals can enhance the: energy, atmosphere, emotion, aggression, sorrow, power, etc. etc. etc. of a song even if they are unintelligible. The feelings metal creates are often primal, and a primal vocal part often fits best. And plenty of harsh vocals ARE intelligible.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:30 pmUnintelligible vocals (growling/black metal screeching/etc) should be viewed as an instrument rather than as singing.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:36 pmSo Johan Hegg recently typed up his own short little guide to Vikings.
It's short but I enjoyed reading it. The main thing I took out of it is his view on religion. I completely agree with it. But the most interesting part of it for me was how he talks about being inspired by Norse Paganism and immediately I thought of the photos there are of him wearing a Mjölnir necklace and all the stuff he shares on Facebook of Grimfrost (they make all sorts of cool Viking shit), and that just kind of clicked with me. I feel like a lot of religions have something you could take away, and there's no shame in being inspired by Paganism or Christianity or Satanism or Buddhism or whatever else. I guess the reason this kind of clicked with me was because I've been in a sort of religious limbo for the past couple years. I identify as Catholic, but really I'm not all that Christian or Pagan, but I'm also far from an atheist and I can't call myself agnostic. So this just kind of reminded me that religion isn't a stone-set kind of thing, and if I get inspired by stormy weather and the old tales of gods and such, I'm completely okay with doing that as well as also respecting Christianity.
And that relates back to metal because ultimately being metal also means having your own beliefs and not conforming to anything, and I can now say that yes I do still consider myself mildly religious, but just not specifically Christian or any other religion in particular.
It's short but I enjoyed reading it. The main thing I took out of it is his view on religion. I completely agree with it. But the most interesting part of it for me was how he talks about being inspired by Norse Paganism and immediately I thought of the photos there are of him wearing a Mjölnir necklace and all the stuff he shares on Facebook of Grimfrost (they make all sorts of cool Viking shit), and that just kind of clicked with me. I feel like a lot of religions have something you could take away, and there's no shame in being inspired by Paganism or Christianity or Satanism or Buddhism or whatever else. I guess the reason this kind of clicked with me was because I've been in a sort of religious limbo for the past couple years. I identify as Catholic, but really I'm not all that Christian or Pagan, but I'm also far from an atheist and I can't call myself agnostic. So this just kind of reminded me that religion isn't a stone-set kind of thing, and if I get inspired by stormy weather and the old tales of gods and such, I'm completely okay with doing that as well as also respecting Christianity.
And that relates back to metal because ultimately being metal also means having your own beliefs and not conforming to anything, and I can now say that yes I do still consider myself mildly religious, but just not specifically Christian or any other religion in particular.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:37 pmCosumar wrote:Kar-Esseria wrote:Again, what the fuck is the point of singing when no one can understand what the fuck you're saying?
>implying lyrics are the only reason for vocals
Harsh vocals can enhance the: energy, atmosphere, emotion, aggression, sorrow, power, etc. etc. etc. of a song even if they are unintelligible. The feelings metal creates are often primal, and a primal vocal part often fits best. And plenty of harsh vocals ARE intelligible.
Pretty much this.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:43 pmNeuPolska wrote:Cosumar wrote:>implying lyrics are the only reason for vocals
Harsh vocals can enhance the: energy, atmosphere, emotion, aggression, sorrow, power, etc. etc. etc. of a song even if they are unintelligible. The feelings metal creates are often primal, and a primal vocal part often fits best. And plenty of harsh vocals ARE intelligible.
Pretty much this.
Exactly. No matter if you're clean singing, screaming, growling, shrieking, shouting, yarling, doing wimpy Asking Alexandria crap, whatever the fuck...the voice is in the end just another instrument.
For the sake of argument, let's compare clean singing to an acoustic guitar and growling to heavy distortion. Obviously to the initiate's ear the softer, simpler one will sound better.
And I can't imagine Cannibal Corpse having Rob Halford sing their brutally disgusting lyrics over such heavy...err...metal!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:45 pmNeuPolska wrote:So Johan Hegg recently typed up his own short little guide to Vikings.
I agreed most with the first comment.
"his norwegian culture... he's swedish"
On a serious note, I knew pretty much everything already
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:46 pmCadonica wrote:NeuPolska wrote:So Johan Hegg recently typed up his own short little guide to Vikings.
I agreed most with the first comment.
"his norwegian culture... he's swedish"
On a serious note, I knew pretty much everything already
A lot of it is just getting rid of stereotypes that have been in the process of being rid of for a while now. It's still good to know he's not taking the Viking image TOO seriously. Especially when it comes to religion.
TAKE THAT VARG!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:46 pmCadonica wrote:NeuPolska wrote:So Johan Hegg recently typed up his own short little guide to Vikings.
I agreed most with the first comment.
"his norwegian culture... he's swedish"
On a serious note, I knew pretty much everything already
I know, that bothered me a bit too, but I decided to move on without thinking about it too much
I knew all of that too.
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:47 pm