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Herargon
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Postby Herargon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:35 am

Bezombia wrote:
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Actually, most of my money was gained from taxes and winning wars.


That's not what I meant.


Well, anyways, I indeed was in the trade node. I also had Alexandria and Ragusa.
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Postby Herargon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:36 am

Mefpan wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Looks like my setbacks to reach India have been overcome with the most convenient Lord of the Rings reference.

http://imgur.com/0vevjrg,5rzik7K#0

At least you don't have to worry about the White Hand of Saruhan.



Kaffa in Africa? That's weird, what is a part of the Crimea doing there?
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Ifreann wrote:That would certainly save the local regiment of American troops the trouble of plugging your head in ye olde shittere.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:36 am

Herargon wrote:
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That's not what I meant.


Well, anyways, I indeed was in the trade node. I also had Alexandria and Ragusa.


That's what I'm saying. I'm getting all of this money from Constantinople without any physical presence in the node. Of course you'll get a lot of money if you have provinces that lend you trade power to it.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:42 am

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Mefpan wrote:At least you don't have to worry about the White Hand of Saruhan.



Kaffa in Africa? That's weird, what is a part of the Crimea doing there?

It's the Ethiopian Kingdom. I plan to expand into it, they got some nice resources.
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Postby Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:36 am

Just playin' Vicky 2 with Spain when an event popped up that said I either had to gain 1 infamy or lose 5 prestige. The 1 infamy put me at 25.06 infamy. Exactly 2.4 seconds later, everybody and their mother declares war on Spain. Mierda.
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Postby Mefpan » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:57 am

Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:Just playin' Vicky 2 with Spain when an event popped up that said I either had to gain 1 infamy or lose 5 prestige. The 1 infamy put me at 25.06 infamy. Exactly 2.4 seconds later, everybody and their mother declares war on Spain. Mierda.

There is no reason ever to suck the infamy even if it costs you influence with a state.

It is incredibly rare for that event to matter even if you're vying for supremacy over a state and if you're doing things half right you'll be gobbling up prestige anyway.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:01 am

Me + Sardinia against France + Naples in a succession war over Naples?

http://i.imgur.com/lThZQP4.png

It's on, bitch.


EDIT: France called in allies.

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I'm still going to win this.
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Postby Bralia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:19 am

These words have never been spoken before: I think AI Byzantium has a chance.
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:21 am

Bralia wrote:These words have never been spoken before: I think AI Byzantium has a chance.


what, AI once used common human strategy to save own roman ass? :p
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Postby Bralia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:28 am

Socialist Czechia wrote:
Bralia wrote:These words have never been spoken before: I think AI Byzantium has a chance.


what, AI once used common human strategy to save own roman ass? :p

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Everything that you see in that screenshot is the result of the Ottomans clicking the Westernize button.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:38 am

Well, apparently, unlike HoI 2, DH doesn't let you avert the Great Purge.
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Postby Mefpan » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:47 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, apparently, unlike HoI 2, DH doesn't let you avert the Great Purge.

It's not possible to stop the Night of the Long Knives either, while we're at it. Granted, at that juncture someone was going to get shot, but the game offers you amazingly little in terms of choice.
I support thermonuclear warfare. Do you want to play a game of chess?
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:53 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, apparently, unlike HoI 2, DH doesn't let you avert the Great Purge.



this doesn't make sense, you should be able to refuse such events, since player is de facto roleplaying Stalin.

or Hitler.

or Mussolini - only chance to make Italy warfare worthy state :lol:
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:12 am

Socialist Czechia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, apparently, unlike HoI 2, DH doesn't let you avert the Great Purge.



this doesn't make sense, you should be able to refuse such events, since player is de facto roleplaying Stalin.

or Hitler.

or Mussolini - only chance to make Italy warfare worthy state :lol:

Yeah, HoI 2, I rejected it because the cost was too high. Also, I should note that I took control of the Spanish Republican military for the civil war; it is 1938 and the war appears to be in stalemate. Everywhere but the farthest north (Leon, Galicia, Burgos, that area) have been brought back into Republican control, but the Nationalist defensive line still holds. In response, I declared war and am preparing to bring forces into Spain.
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:20 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Socialist Czechia wrote:

this doesn't make sense, you should be able to refuse such events, since player is de facto roleplaying Stalin.

or Hitler.

or Mussolini - only chance to make Italy warfare worthy state :lol:

Yeah, HoI 2, I rejected it because the cost was too high. Also, I should note that I took control of the Spanish Republican military for the civil war; it is 1938 and the war appears to be in stalemate. Everywhere but the farthest north (Leon, Galicia, Burgos, that area) have been brought back into Republican control, but the Nationalist defensive line still holds. In response, I declared war and am preparing to bring forces into Spain.


I always wondered what would happen if Hitler must faced Spanish Socialist Republic too.

Probably worse partisan nightmare than Yugoslavia and Greece.

Napoleon lost probably for half French military locked there too.
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Postby Herargon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:22 am

Bralia wrote:
Socialist Czechia wrote:
what, AI once used common human strategy to save own roman ass? :p

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Everything that you see in that screenshot is the result of the Ottomans clicking the Westernize button.



Wait.. how .. the f*ck? THIS IS GREAT! ENSURE THEY RECONQUER THE EMPIRE! ROMA VICTOR! REMOVE KEBAB!
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Ifreann wrote:That would certainly save the local regiment of American troops the trouble of plugging your head in ye olde shittere.
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Postby Bralia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:02 pm

Herargon wrote:
Bralia wrote:I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Everything that you see in that screenshot is the result of the Ottomans clicking the Westernize button.



Wait.. how .. the f*ck? THIS IS GREAT! ENSURE THEY RECONQUER THE EMPIRE! ROMA VICTOR! REMOVE KEBAB!

I wasn't actually planning on doing that, but now that I've spent more than 5 second thinking about it, that sounds awesome. I have so many diplo slots open right now, I could probably ally Byzantium and Syria both and ensure their complete and utter annihilation. I'm definitely gonna do it. I wanna see if I can aid them in pulling of the "Restore the Byzantine Empire" decision.
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Postby Herargon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:28 pm

Bralia wrote:
Herargon wrote:

Wait.. how .. the f*ck? THIS IS GREAT! ENSURE THEY RECONQUER THE EMPIRE! ROMA VICTOR! REMOVE KEBAB!

I wasn't actually planning on doing that, but now that I've spent more than 5 second thinking about it, that sounds awesome. I have so many diplo slots open right now, I could probably ally Byzantium and Syria both and ensure their complete and utter annihilation. I'm definitely gonna do it. I wanna see if I can aid them in pulling of the "Restore the Byzantine Empire" decision.


I've also made an EU4 map for what territories you need to restore the Roman empire as of 117 A.C.

Currently, I'm working on a EU4 map of today.
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Ifreann wrote:That would certainly save the local regiment of American troops the trouble of plugging your head in ye olde shittere.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:37 pm

Bralia wrote:
Herargon wrote:

Wait.. how .. the f*ck? THIS IS GREAT! ENSURE THEY RECONQUER THE EMPIRE! ROMA VICTOR! REMOVE KEBAB!

I wasn't actually planning on doing that, but now that I've spent more than 5 second thinking about it, that sounds awesome. I have so many diplo slots open right now, I could probably ally Byzantium and Syria both and ensure their complete and utter annihilation. I'm definitely gonna do it. I wanna see if I can aid them in pulling of the "Restore the Byzantine Empire" decision.

Getting the AI to do this would be far more impressive than doing it yourself.
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Postby Herargon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:43 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Bralia wrote:I wasn't actually planning on doing that, but now that I've spent more than 5 second thinking about it, that sounds awesome. I have so many diplo slots open right now, I could probably ally Byzantium and Syria both and ensure their complete and utter annihilation. I'm definitely gonna do it. I wanna see if I can aid them in pulling of the "Restore the Byzantine Empire" decision.

Getting the AI to do this would be far more impressive than doing it yourself.


Just give cores to them, join coalitions against enemies of the Byzzies, give them monies, improve relations, and ask for access, etc.
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Ifreann wrote:That would certainly save the local regiment of American troops the trouble of plugging your head in ye olde shittere.
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Postby Arkolon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:00 pm

I formed the Byzantine Empire by 1875, and Communist rebels are slowly making their way to Constantinople! Impeach Absolute Monarchy, State Capitalist is theft, Red Themes 1880! Might post AAR later tonight if you guys care to listen. c:
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:11 pm

Arkolon wrote:I formed the Byzantine Empire by 1875, and Communist rebels are slowly making their way to Constantinople! Impeach Absolute Monarchy, State Capitalist is theft, Red Themes 1880! Might post AAR later tonight if you guys care to listen. c:

I care. HAIL THE RED THEMES!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:12 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Arkolon wrote:I formed the Byzantine Empire by 1875, and Communist rebels are slowly making their way to Constantinople! Impeach Absolute Monarchy, State Capitalist is theft, Red Themes 1880! Might post AAR later tonight if you guys care to listen. c:

I care. HAIL THE RED THEMES!

WORKERS OF THE RED THEMES UNITE!
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:15 pm

so im tryign to play hoi3



how can i make the country's names show up on the map
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:16 pm

Bezombia wrote:so im tryign to play hoi3



how can i make the country's names show up on the map

They should automatically when you are zoomed out enough like in the other games.
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