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Wolfmanne
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:01 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Ontorisa wrote:
Well, at least you can war Aragon constantly without having to worry about Portugal backstabbing your ass during the wars.


Aragon is not as strong as Castille.

I made my Aragon stronger than Castille. Without taking most of the Iberian Peninsula or forming an union with Portugal.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:26 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Ontorisa wrote:
Well, at least you can war Aragon constantly without having to worry about Portugal backstabbing your ass during the wars.


Aragon is not as strong as Castille.


If Aragon allies with Portugal and France, they can be.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:28 am

Registug wrote:http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/528383129360625565/9C40FB9BE18DF6DDC09244F69327C90785E7B576/

P-Polan Stronk???

Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact gone horribly, horribly wrong.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
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Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:30 am

Registug wrote:http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/528383129360625565/9C40FB9BE18DF6DDC09244F69327C90785E7B576/

P-Polan Stronk???

... wat
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Postby Herargon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:43 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Registug wrote:http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/528383129360625565/9C40FB9BE18DF6DDC09244F69327C90785E7B576/

P-Polan Stronk???

... wat


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:44 am

Herargon wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:... wat


No Lithuania, no commonwealth 0/10 wouldn't want to see it again

No Commonwealth 100/10 best Poland ever, Muscovy approves.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:47 am

Image

Unified Iberia in 1470. Malloreca is getting annexed fairly soon as well.

England is getting scary (they annexed Brittany of all nations, and still have Calais and Lambourd/Gascony) but France is consolidating its pawns into the Megafrancatron and will likely deal with them sooner or later.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:52 am

Bezombia wrote:(Image)

Unified Iberia in 1470. Malloreca is getting annexed fairly soon as well.

England is getting scary (they annexed Brittany of all nations, and still have Calais and Lambourd/Gascony) but France is consolidating its pawns into the Megafrancatron and will likely deal with them sooner or later.

Arise France! Arise and cast down the Austro and Anglo Invaders!

And arise Castile too i guess.
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Postby Registug » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:55 am

Spain joined the Axis, India has fallen, the USA is still neutral and it's 1944

I don't think Britain is going to pull this one out.
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Postby Herargon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:15 am

Huskar, you once asked me how it would be possible to become Hellenic.

I think I may have found the possibility; it is explained there.
http://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/c ... st_became/

Also, I was certainly surprised when I saw this happening:
http://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/c ... xbk1g/wat/
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Ifreann wrote:That would certainly save the local regiment of American troops the trouble of plugging your head in ye olde shittere.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:21 am

Herargon wrote:Huskar, you once asked me how it would be possible to become Hellenic.

I think I may have found the possibility; it is explained there.
http://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/c ... st_became/

Also, I was certainly surprised when I saw this happening:
http://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/c ... xbk1g/wat/

Oh interesting, also lol wtf at the second link.

Did the game just spazz out and decide fuck everything?
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Postby Jute » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:29 am

Bezombia wrote:
Registug wrote:http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/528383129360625565/9C40FB9BE18DF6DDC09244F69327C90785E7B576/

P-Polan Stronk???

Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact gone horribly, horribly wrong.

Why does Lithuania have two colors in that screenshot?
The Jonathanian States wrote:

Dat flag.

Yeah, I like it, too.
But +9 at everything and no advisors, is that something you can make with the new nation generator?
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When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:09 am

Image

"The crusades are over," they said.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:19 am

Bezombia wrote:(Image)

"The crusades are over," they said.

Trying to do exactly the same thing as Aragon, but the Ottomans have blobbed massively and my allies in Europe decided to kill each other. Their navy is easily the strongest in the world too; the other top 9 (including me at 2nd or 3rd) combined wouldn't be able to defeat it. So I can't even block off that strait.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:20 am

Wolfmanne wrote:
Bezombia wrote:(Image)

"The crusades are over," they said.

Trying to do exactly the same thing as Aragon, but the Ottomans have blobbed massively and my allies in Europe decided to kill each other. Their navy is easily the strongest in the world too; the other top 9 (including me at 2nd or 3rd) combined wouldn't be able to defeat it. So I can't even block off that strait.


If the Ottomans have invaded the Mamluks to such an extend that they own Jerusalem, you'll never get it.

The Mamluks are weak. The Ottomans are strong - incomprehensibly so. I've seen Kebab go from being an OPM enclave within Byzantium to world superpower in less than a hundred years. You'll never have a successful crusade against a strong Kebab.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:24 am

Bezombia wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Trying to do exactly the same thing as Aragon, but the Ottomans have blobbed massively and my allies in Europe decided to kill each other. Their navy is easily the strongest in the world too; the other top 9 (including me at 2nd or 3rd) combined wouldn't be able to defeat it. So I can't even block off that strait.


If the Ottomans have invaded the Mamluks to such an extend that they own Jerusalem, you'll never get it.

The Mamluks are weak. The Ottomans are strong - incomprehensibly so. I've seen Kebab go from being an OPM enclave within Byzantium to world superpower in less than a hundred years. You'll never have a successful crusade against a strong Kebab.

I should had invaded the Mamluks earlier. I had a plan to occupy Gaza and the Sinai along with the area for the Suez Canal in order to gain access to India, so I neglected my colonial game. That decision bas bitten me in the arse and now I'm scrambling desperately to colony hop my way into India. America is mostly a loss cause for me at this point, so I'm building up a colonial empire in South Africa (in competition with the Portugese) and Madagascar (which is all mine). In time I plan to move into South East Asia. I'll probably try and take the French colonies, as France is weak is literally down to about three provinces right now as me, Burgundy and Britanny partitioned France before it blobbed.
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Postby Mefpan » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:27 am

Bezombia wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Trying to do exactly the same thing as Aragon, but the Ottomans have blobbed massively and my allies in Europe decided to kill each other. Their navy is easily the strongest in the world too; the other top 9 (including me at 2nd or 3rd) combined wouldn't be able to defeat it. So I can't even block off that strait.


If the Ottomans have invaded the Mamluks to such an extend that they own Jerusalem, you'll never get it.

The Mamluks are weak. The Ottomans are strong - incomprehensibly so. I've seen Kebab go from being an OPM enclave within Byzantium to world superpower in less than a hundred years. You'll never have a successful crusade against a strong Kebab.

The obvious solution is to use awesome military power to make kebab weaker.

But yeah. I avoid warring the Ottomans like the plague until about 1600, just as France is usually taboo until about 1750 unless they're at war with all nations between Austria and Zaporozhye and simply don't have enough stacks to deal with the numbers on all fronts.
I support thermonuclear warfare. Do you want to play a game of chess?
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:33 am

So thanks to the mighty Castillian Navy, I now am collecting 15 ducats a month from Constantinople, without having a single province in the trade zone or in any trade node that it feeds.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Herargon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:55 am

Bezombia wrote:So thanks to the mighty Castillian Navy, I now am collecting 15 ducats a month from Constantinople, without having a single province in the trade zone or in any trade node that it feeds.


15? Amateur, as the Byzzies I got 'bout 45 coins every month.
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Ifreann wrote:That would certainly save the local regiment of American troops the trouble of plugging your head in ye olde shittere.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:56 am

Herargon wrote:
Bezombia wrote:So thanks to the mighty Castillian Navy, I now am collecting 15 ducats a month from Constantinople, without having a single province in the trade zone or in any trade node that it feeds.


15? Amateur, as the Byzzies I got 'bout 45 coins every month.


I presume that, as Byzantium, you were actually in the trade node.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Herargon » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:57 am

Bezombia wrote:
Herargon wrote:
15? Amateur, as the Byzzies I got 'bout 45 coins every month.


I presume that, as Byzantium, you were actually in the trade node.


Actually, most of my money was gained from taxes and winning wars.
Pro: tolerance, individualism, technocratism, democratism, freedom, freedom of speech and moderate religious expression, the ban on hate speech, constitutional monarchism, the Rhine model
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If you like philosophy, then here you can see what your own philosophical alignements are.

Ifreann wrote:That would certainly save the local regiment of American troops the trouble of plugging your head in ye olde shittere.
How scifi alliances actually work.

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Postby Bezombia » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:58 am

Herargon wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
I presume that, as Byzantium, you were actually in the trade node.


Actually, most of my money was gained from taxes and winning wars.


That's not what I meant.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Mefpan » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:02 am

Psh. Amateurs.

The best thing is letting England handle the agonies of colonization and colonial wars and just dominating the European trade nodes and siphoning off some sixty units of shiny every month simply because all the colonizers are focusing on each other so that you can protect your own trade in the Channel with relative impunity.
I support thermonuclear warfare. Do you want to play a game of chess?
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:14 am

Looks like my setbacks to reach India have been overcome with the most convenient Lord of the Rings reference.

http://imgur.com/0vevjrg,5rzik7K#0

EDIT: Also should help me be able to integrate Makuria, who are my vassals due to my defeat of the Mamluks.
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Postby Mefpan » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:15 am

Wolfmanne wrote:Looks like my setbacks to reach India have been overcome with the most convenient Lord of the Rings reference.

http://imgur.com/0vevjrg,5rzik7K#0

At least you don't have to worry about the White Hand of Saruhan.
I support thermonuclear warfare. Do you want to play a game of chess?
NationStates' umpteenth dirty ex-leftist class traitor.
I left the Left when it turned Right. Now I'm going back to the Right because it's all that's Left.
Yeah, Screw Realism!
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