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Postby Herargon » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:23 am

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Trigori wrote:Try putting 'break SCA' (I assume you are playing as Scandinavia) into the console. The rebels have practically won anyways :P

Won't that make every single possible releasable country break away, though? Never tried that command (but now I feel the destructive possibilities, hehe).

And yes, you are correct. Scandinavia 1911.


Don't. Instead, use a cheat which changes your government type to communist.
Only do it if it would be realistic, such as in your case where commies occupy everything but the capital.

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Postby Benomia 3 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:25 am

Finland SSR wrote:
Trigori wrote:Try putting 'break SCA' (I assume you are playing as Scandinavia) into the console. The rebels have practically won anyways :P

Won't that make every single possible releasable country break away, though? Never tried that command (but now I feel the destructive possibilities, hehe).

And yes, you are correct. Scandinavia 1911.


`break` just makes every top-level rebel automatically enforce their demands.
For countries to break away, they'd have to form a rebel faction first.
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Postby Bralia » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:25 am

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Also, Sweden can only be attacked once. That is if you form Scandinavia and Prussia decides to want your Holsteins.

Well Prussia can soundly fuck off its my Holstein. I hate Prussia in Victoria 2, the blood that was spilled to keep them down as France, Never Forget.

You might say that . . . *puts on period-accurate monocle* . . . France endured.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:54 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well Prussia can soundly fuck off its my Holstein. I hate Prussia in Victoria 2, the blood that was spilled to keep them down as France, Never Forget.

You might say that . . . *puts on period-accurate monocle* . . . France endured.

Indeed it did, and when my campaign came to a halt, the French tricolour flew over western Germany, Switzerland and Northern Italy. And the French Fleet dominated the Atlantic and the Mediterranean, and its industry was unmatched, we were the strongest power in the world.

France... did endure.
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Postby Max Empire » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:12 am

What about Byzantium in Eu4 anybody like playing as them?
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Postby Benomia 3 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:14 am

Max empire wrote:What about Byzantium in Eu4 anybody like playing as them?

I've done them twice.

By the time you get strong enough to stand on your own, everyone else has already formed mega empires. It's tough - and it doesn't get easier.
In my most recent game (1.12) I ended up with a PU over Russia. So that made it easier.
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Postby Finland SSR » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:16 am

Max empire wrote:What about Byzantium in Eu4 anybody like playing as them?

A nation that is supposed to die in nine years should not get so much more flavor than some other, more important and interesting nations. That's just my opinion.

After all, isn't Byzantium supposed to die for the Renaissance to take place anyway?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:16 am

Finland SSR wrote:
Max empire wrote:What about Byzantium in Eu4 anybody like playing as them?

A nation that is supposed to die in nine years should not get so much more flavor than some other, more important and interesting nations. That's just my opinion.

After all, isn't Byzantium supposed to die for the Renaissance to take place anyway?


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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:17 am

Finland SSR wrote:
Max empire wrote:What about Byzantium in Eu4 anybody like playing as them?

A nation that is supposed to die in nine years should not get so much more flavor than some other, more important and interesting nations. That's just my opinion.

After all, isn't Byzantium supposed to die for the Renaissance to take place anyway?

Eh. The Renaissance was already under way by 1453.
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Postby Finland SSR » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:17 am

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Finland SSR wrote:A nation that is supposed to die in nine years should not get so much more flavor than some other, more important and interesting nations. That's just my opinion.

After all, isn't Byzantium supposed to die for the Renaissance to take place anyway?


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Postby Benomia 3 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:17 am

Finland SSR wrote:
Max empire wrote:What about Byzantium in Eu4 anybody like playing as them?

A nation that is supposed to die in nine years should not get so much more flavor than some other, more important and interesting nations. That's just my opinion.

After all, isn't Byzantium supposed to die for the Renaissance to take place anyway?


Historically speaking, yes. However, by 1444 Byzantium was so far gone that whether or not they nominally still existed was irrelevant.

Of course, Byzantium suddenly reviving and taking over all of the Balkans and Anatolia would definitely set the renaissance back a fair bit.
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Postby Benomia 3 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:18 am

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Postby Finland SSR » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:20 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Finland SSR wrote:A nation that is supposed to die in nine years should not get so much more flavor than some other, more important and interesting nations. That's just my opinion.

After all, isn't Byzantium supposed to die for the Renaissance to take place anyway?

Eh. The Renaissance was already under way by 1453.

To be fair, the massive influx of Greek immigrants, mostly scientists and philosophers, after the capture of the Constantinople was what kickstarted the Italian Renaissance to such massive heights. It may have had some similar things before, but not at such scale.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:20 am

Benomia 3 wrote:wait...wat?


That's... odd. How exactly did that happen?

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Postby Benomia 3 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:21 am

Finland SSR wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Eh. The Renaissance was already under way by 1453.

To be fair, the massive influx of Greek immigrants, mostly scientists and philosophers, after the capture of the Constantinople was what kickstarted the Italian Renaissance to such massive heights. It may have had some similar things before, but not at such scale.


Also, the economic alliance between Venice and the Ottomans let the Silk Road, for the first time, stretch all the way from China to Italy. This brought even more money into Venetian coffers, allowing them to spend more money on arts and science.
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Postby Benomia 3 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:22 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Benomia 3 wrote:wait...wat?


That's... odd. How exactly did that happen?


Popeman called for a Crusade for Andalusia, which was ruled by the Almohad Empire at the time. The crusade was successful, and somehow the Republic of Pisa ended up annexing the recovered land.
So...Republic of Andalusia.
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Postby Max Empire » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:22 am

Byzantium doesn't need to die. The Renaissance started in the 14th century and ended in the 17th (Wikipedia). Byzantium's defeat gave the Renaissance it needed to develop Humanism and last till the 17th century.


Also, it's pretty easy. Get an advisor that boosts diplomatic reputation (Restart if there ain't one) and improve relations with Poland and Lithuania(If Poland doesn't PU them). Insult and embargo the Ottomans so they attack you and Poland+Lithuania will do the rest.
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:23 am

Finland SSR wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Eh. The Renaissance was already under way by 1453.

To be fair, the massive influx of Greek immigrants, mostly scientists and philosophers, after the capture of the Constantinople was what kickstarted the Italian Renaissance to such massive heights. It may have had some similar things before, but not at such scale.

I suppose. :unsure:

Sorry, I'm not very knowledgeable about the Renaissance. Didn't much pay attention in my Humanities class during high school. :blush:
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Postby Roma Byzantina » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:35 am

Benomia 3 wrote:
Max empire wrote:What about Byzantium in Eu4 anybody like playing as them?

I've done them twice.

By the time you get strong enough to stand on your own, everyone else has already formed mega empires. It's tough - and it doesn't get easier.
In my most recent game (1.12) I ended up with a PU over Russia. So that made it easier.

How to Roman?

My favorite way to play Byzantium, ATM is with the Third Odyssey mod. But I wanna know how to for realsies Rome.

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Postby The Third Nova Terra of Scrin » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:37 am

I noticed at my Japan play that the Paradox developers seem to love Japan so much. Too many unique events for such nation.
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Postby Roma Byzantina » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:42 am

The Third Nova Terra of Scrin wrote:I noticed at my Japan play that the Paradox developers seem to love Japan so much. Too many unique events for such nation.

Which game and do you have any mods on?
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Postby The Third Nova Terra of Scrin » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:46 am

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The Third Nova Terra of Scrin wrote:I noticed at my Japan play that the Paradox developers seem to love Japan so much. Too many unique events for such nation.

Which game and do you have any mods on?


Vanilla, no mods.

I mean patch 1.10 with no mods. I still did not got the Common Sense DLC.
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Postby Roma Byzantina » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:53 am

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Roma Byzantina wrote:Which game and do you have any mods on?


Vanilla, no mods.

I mean patch 1.10 with no mods. I still did not got the Common Sense DLC.

Update to 1.12/whatever is newest, tis awesome! I like the Forts and Development stuff (even if I don't have Common Sense myself) I've been wanting to play Japan in EU4 and now I have a good reason to, I want those events.
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Postby The Third Nova Terra of Scrin » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:59 am

Roma Byzantina wrote:
The Third Nova Terra of Scrin wrote:
Vanilla, no mods.

I mean patch 1.10 with no mods. I still did not got the Common Sense DLC.

Update to 1.12/whatever is newest, tis awesome! I like the Forts and Development stuff (even if I don't have Common Sense myself) I've been wanting to play Japan in EU4 and now I have a good reason to, I want those events.


Apparently, 1.13 just come out, tweaking Common Sense somehow. Yes, Japan seems to have a lot more events and immersion than some Tier 1 nations. Have fun playing as the daimyos to unite Japan.

One thing I'm really excited in Common Sense is the Development, now you can change the once-destined tax and manpower of your provinces.
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