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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:56 am

You know, I really think Sunset Shimmer should bear the element of Forgiveness or Redemption.

Thoughts?

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Wilgrove wrote:You know, I really think Sunset Shimmer should bear the element of Forgiveness or Redemption.

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1) Great and Powerful Trixie.
2) No.

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Wilgrove wrote:You know, I really think Sunset Shimmer should bear the element of Forgiveness or Redemption.

Thoughts?

Nah

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Wilgrove wrote:You know, I really think Sunset Shimmer should bear the element of Forgiveness or Redemption.

Thoughts?

No. Trixie, for one.

For two, Sunset is alternate Element of Magic. I dub thee Element of Friendship.
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Trixie does not deserve any sort of Element. What she deserves, is a solid ass-kicking.
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Ameriganastan wrote:Trixie does not deserve any sort of Element. What she deserves, is a solid ass-kicking.


We need six evil pones to band together to form the elements of... well, disharmony's not really a word... discord is already taken... uh, dissent? Trixie could easily be the element of emnity or selfishness or whatever is the opposite of friendship.

That is, assuming you want her to be beaten again and thus can't come in as 'reformed'.
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Oh, sure. Have her waste the bullshit second chance she got, and then get a third chance when Twilight beats her again, and starts spouting that friendship crap. Trixie needs to stay away and never come back.
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Ameriganastan wrote:Trixie does not deserve any sort of Element. What she deserves, is a solid ass-kicking.

That's already happened.

No one said she deserved it. Merely that it would fit her better than another character.

Not really sure what you're trying to argue here.
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New Babylonia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Trixie does not deserve any sort of Element. What she deserves, is a solid ass-kicking.

That's already happened.

I'm sorry, I don't remember that. I remember her taking over the town, banishing Twilight, and getting instantly forgiven like she accidentally stepped on someones foot...
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Ameriganastan wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:That's already happened.

I'm sorry, I don't remember that. I remember her taking over the town, banishing Twilight, and getting instantly forgiven like she accidentally stepped on someones foot...


I somewhat flummoxed by your hatred for trixie but favorable opinion of pacifica, both having been self-centered former "villains" given chances to redeem themselves.
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Ameriganastan wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:That's already happened.

I'm sorry, I don't remember that. I remember her taking over the town, banishing Twilight, and getting instantly forgiven like she accidentally stepped on someones foot...

Preeetttyyyy sure Twilight kicked her ass in the closest thing you're ever going to see to a street fight in MLP.

Uh-huh, you realize its a kids show right? Trying to teach children friendship, and yadda yadda? Forgiveness is something they teach. In the context we view it as, it seems a bit strange. For the marketed audience, they don't really get that.

Or, have you forgotten that the purpose of a show existing can and often will influence what happens in it? Certainly not the first time MLP has done it. I'm sure most would agree, Trixie should be in prison after that, and in any real nation would be. But this is show is designed to teach children about friendship, and forgiveness is part of that. The message of the show > logic. Argue Hasbro on it if you want, and good luck with that.
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

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You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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New Babylonia wrote:Preeetttyyyy sure Twilight kicked her ass in the closest thing you're ever going to see to a street fight in MLP.

Right. Cause "Showing you up in a magic show" is an appropriate punishment...

New Babylonia wrote:
Uh-huh, you realize its a kids show right? Trying to teach children friendship, and yadda yadda? Forgiveness is something they teach. In the context we view it as, it seems a bit strange. For the marketed audience, they don't really get that.

Uh-huh. Hey, remember Twilight VS Tirek? I sure do...
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Ameriganastan wrote:Trixie does not deserve any sort of Element. What she deserves, is a solid ass-kicking.

My point is that Sunset Shimmer only came second in the Redemption and Forgiveness race. In general, making up new Elements of Harmony should be solely part of bad fanfiction.

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Patridam wrote:I somewhat flummoxed by your hatred for trixie but favorable opinion of pacifica, both having been self-centered former "villains" given chances to redeem themselves.

Trixie: Lying, conniving scam artist. Who came back after getting exposed as a fraud, took over the town, acted like a general bitch, and was forgiven almost instantly after.

Pacifica: Pre-teen, mocking bitch. Who is Pavlovian conditioned to obey by her greedy, classist parents. And who saved half the town from the Lumberjack Ghost by honoring the deal her ancestors welched on.

Yeah, like two sides of the same coin...
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

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Postby New Babylonia » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:30 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:Preeetttyyyy sure Twilight kicked her ass in the closest thing you're ever going to see to a street fight in MLP.

Right. Cause "Showing you up in a magic show" is an appropriate punishment...

New Babylonia wrote:
Uh-huh, you realize its a kids show right? Trying to teach children friendship, and yadda yadda? Forgiveness is something they teach. In the context we view it as, it seems a bit strange. For the marketed audience, they don't really get that.

Uh-huh. Hey, remember Twilight VS Tirek? I sure do...

Didn't say it was. Infact, if you read and quoted the rest of the post instead of cherry picking, you would see i acknowledged what the logical punishment would have been, and why it was not an option for the show.

Did Tirek ever apologize or say that he was wrong? No. Did he ask for forgiveness? No. He was evil, he knew he was evil, and he didn't give a fuck he was evil, infact - he loved he was evil. It's blatantly obvious in character. Not even close to Trixie realizing "Shiiiiiiit, fucked up" and then running from embarrassment and mild fear. Tirek, yknow, fought to the death to be evil.
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

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You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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New Babylonia wrote:Did Tirek ever apologize or say that he was wrong? No. Did he ask for forgiveness? No. He was evil, he knew he was evil, and he didn't give a fuck he was evil, infact - he loved he was evil. It's blatantly obvious in character. Not even close to Trixie realizing "Shiiiiiiit, fucked up" and then running from embarrassment and mild fear. Tirek, yknow, fought to the death to be evil.

And Trixie sought out an evil amulet, took over the town etc, and put on the "I'm so sorry" bullshit act when she got it taken. So don't give me the "We can't punish them, it's a kids show" crap when you have an explosion filled, badass confrontation with another villain.
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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:33 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Uh-huh. Hey, remember Twilight VS Tirek? I sure do...


IE The best battle scene in MLP History! :D

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Ameriganastan wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:Did Tirek ever apologize or say that he was wrong? No. Did he ask for forgiveness? No. He was evil, he knew he was evil, and he didn't give a fuck he was evil, infact - he loved he was evil. It's blatantly obvious in character. Not even close to Trixie realizing "Shiiiiiiit, fucked up" and then running from embarrassment and mild fear. Tirek, yknow, fought to the death to be evil.

And Trixie sought out an evil amulet, took over the town etc, and put on the "I'm so sorry" bullshit act when she got it taken. So don't give me the "We can't punish them, it's a kids show" crap when you have an explosion filled, badass confrontation with another villain.

Tirek is a super villian. Trixie isn't even in the same class. Evil amulet or not. Oh, and that amulet? It corrupts it's wearer, Ameri. Did yah forget that? She wanted it to show up Twilight after she was embarrassed the last time, knowing the magic in it would make hers better. Poor Trixie didn't know, it was corruptive as well. So, yeah, it made her a complete sociopath.

And when its removed? Well whoda thought, the corrupting influence of it was removed as well! The normal then Trixie, began to apologize. Without being corrupted by evil dark magic. Weird how that works isn't it?

You're getting it anyway, tough shit, get over it Ameri. It's not changing. It's in the damned episode, Hasbro put it there, the intent of showing forgiveness to be important. Bitch all you want. You lose out, it happened, it's going to have always happened, and it was done intentionally. Whether you accept the reasoning to it or not.

And whose to say she isn't changed? We've not seen Trixie since that episode, to my memory. You wouldn't know, nor would anyone else.
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You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

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The Incompetent Critic
DENVER BRONCOS fan
Eric Lumen: Ultimate Chad
Force of nature.
The Ameri Train.
The Ameri song
Tsundere Ameri.
HulkAmeri
Ameri goes to court.
Universal Constant
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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