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by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:22 pm

by The Rich Port » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:24 pm
Zeinbrad wrote:Bezombia wrote:
Bitch I'm standing six feet in front of you carrying a tesla cannon and wearing armor so durable it might actually be thicker than your puny-ass skull. How about you come within punching range and tell me to my visor that you're 'physically and intellectual' superior to my fist, fuckface?
Bethesda, make it so we can make characters our bitch with our physical prowess and have them remember it in Fallout 4.

by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:25 pm

by The Rich Port » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:36 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
Do we even know if Caesar's Legion are going to appear in Fallout 4? I don't even know what the setting is.
Probably not, Fallout 4 is in Boston, the legion was down in Arizona and Nevada. I doubt they would expand that far nor would be capable of doing so.

by Volmachtia » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:44 pm

by Bezombia » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:48 pm
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by The Rich Port » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:01 pm
Bezombia wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
Do we even know if Caesar's Legion are going to appear in Fallout 4? I don't even know what the setting is.
The Legion was huge, but I don't think they extended passed the midwest. Boston is on the east coast, so there's the whole of America between them, basically.
The Enclave is dead as far as we know, and it's possible that a resurgent BoS retook the east coast after the Enclave's hold over D.C. was destroyed, but that's a bit unlikely considering the state of the BoS before.
Who knows what the dominant faction will be in FO4.

by Bezombia » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:12 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Bezombia wrote:
The Legion was huge, but I don't think they extended passed the midwest. Boston is on the east coast, so there's the whole of America between them, basically.
The Enclave is dead as far as we know, and it's possible that a resurgent BoS retook the east coast after the Enclave's hold over D.C. was destroyed, but that's a bit unlikely considering the state of the BoS before.
Who knows what the dominant faction will be in FO4.
The Legion didn't get past even a state line. From what I understand, they only have Arizona, and they barely have it, considering they're barely holding together even when Caesar is in charge.
Considering I've never heard mention of Boston before and considering how close it is to D.C., and how successful the Capital Brotherhood of Steel was, I'm going to guess it's going to involve them fighting some new problem. Perhaps an Enclave Remnant gone rogue?
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Fordorsia wrote:mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies

by The Rich Port » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:18 pm
Bezombia wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
The Legion didn't get past even a state line. From what I understand, they only have Arizona, and they barely have it, considering they're barely holding together even when Caesar is in charge.
Considering I've never heard mention of Boston before and considering how close it is to D.C., and how successful the Capital Brotherhood of Steel was, I'm going to guess it's going to involve them fighting some new problem. Perhaps an Enclave Remnant gone rogue?
At the start of New Vegas the Legion have destroyed Nipton, which is not only west of the Colorado River, it's west of Nevada as a whole. One of their outposts, Cottonwood Cove, is an actual place in Nevada.
Sure they're based near Lake Mead, northern Arizona, but they extended far beyond that.

by Wisconsin9 » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:36 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Bezombia wrote:
The Legion was huge, but I don't think they extended passed the midwest. Boston is on the east coast, so there's the whole of America between them, basically.
The Enclave is dead as far as we know, and it's possible that a resurgent BoS retook the east coast after the Enclave's hold over D.C. was destroyed, but that's a bit unlikely considering the state of the BoS before.
Who knows what the dominant faction will be in FO4.
The Legion didn't get past even a state line. From what I understand, they only have Arizona, and they barely have it, considering they're barely holding together even when Caesar is in charge.
Considering I've never heard mention of Boston before and considering how close it is to D.C., and how successful the Capital Brotherhood of Steel was, I'm going to guess it's going to involve them fighting some new problem. Perhaps an Enclave Remnant gone rogue?

by Licana » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:45 pm
Wisconsin9 wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
The Legion didn't get past even a state line. From what I understand, they only have Arizona, and they barely have it, considering they're barely holding together even when Caesar is in charge.
Considering I've never heard mention of Boston before and considering how close it is to D.C., and how successful the Capital Brotherhood of Steel was, I'm going to guess it's going to involve them fighting some new problem. Perhaps an Enclave Remnant gone rogue?
What? What I heard was that they control most of the Four Corners states.
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by Bezombia » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:48 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Bezombia wrote:
At the start of New Vegas the Legion have destroyed Nipton, which is not only west of the Colorado River, it's west of Nevada as a whole. One of their outposts, Cottonwood Cove, is an actual place in Nevada.
Sure they're based near Lake Mead, northern Arizona, but they extended far beyond that.
And yet, they only hold those two places in the whole of the Mojave.
And Nipton they don't even hold, they razed it because most likely they couldn't hold it if they tried.
And Cottonwood Cove you can dump a fucking truck load of radiation onto and make it uninhabitable.
So really, the only thing they hold is Fortification Hill, which isn't even NCR territory to begin with.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Fordorsia wrote:mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies

by Wisconsin9 » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:50 pm
Bezombia wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
And yet, they only hold those two places in the whole of the Mojave.
And Nipton they don't even hold, they razed it because most likely they couldn't hold it if they tried.
And Cottonwood Cove you can dump a fucking truck load of radiation onto and make it uninhabitable.
So really, the only thing they hold is Fortification Hill, which isn't even NCR territory to begin with.
No, that's just the only part that you see. Most of the Mojave is either NCR owned or Vegas, and the game doesn't extend past that.
Do you really think that the entire Legion could wage a war of attrition against the entire NCR (which, by the way, is huge) if they only controlled a single fort?

by Bezombia » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:54 pm
Wisconsin9 wrote:Bezombia wrote:
No, that's just the only part that you see. Most of the Mojave is either NCR owned or Vegas, and the game doesn't extend past that.
Do you really think that the entire Legion could wage a war of attrition against the entire NCR (which, by the way, is huge) if they only controlled a single fort?
Honestly, you'd think that they'd just lose the war entirely, considering that the Fort (which is also basically their capital) is snuggled right up next to the only faction in the Wastes that poses any kind of legitimate threat to them.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Fordorsia wrote:mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies

by The Rich Port » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:02 pm
Bezombia wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:Honestly, you'd think that they'd just lose the war entirely, considering that the Fort (which is also basically their capital) is snuggled right up next to the only faction in the Wastes that poses any kind of legitimate threat to them.
http://www.summitpost.org/fortification-hill/154642
The Fort is actually in Arizona, despite how close it seems to be to Vegas in the game. That means that if the NCR wanted to attack it, they'd have to cross the Colorado River and launch a full assault into Legion territory. Considering how beat up they were after the Battle of Hoover Dam - a battle they won - I have a feeling they wouldn't win that fight.

by Bezombia » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:04 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Bezombia wrote:
http://www.summitpost.org/fortification-hill/154642
The Fort is actually in Arizona, despite how close it seems to be to Vegas in the game. That means that if the NCR wanted to attack it, they'd have to cross the Colorado River and launch a full assault into Legion territory. Considering how beat up they were after the Battle of Hoover Dam - a battle they won - I have a feeling they wouldn't win that fight.
Alternatively, though, they can just contract an assassin of some note, maybe some Courier or something, to assassinate Caesar and watch the Legion scramble to re-organize. In the meantime, the NCR can regroup, rebuild, and strengthen their position in the Mojave, while waiting for the Legion to tear itself apart, to the point that they can in fact cross the Colorado and mop up the stragglers, if there even are any, considering just how loose alliances in the Legion are.
... Which, in my game, and probably canonically, they did.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Fordorsia wrote:mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
by The Matthew Islands » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:06 pm
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by Wisconsin9 » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:25 pm
Bezombia wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:Honestly, you'd think that they'd just lose the war entirely, considering that the Fort (which is also basically their capital) is snuggled right up next to the only faction in the Wastes that poses any kind of legitimate threat to them.
http://www.summitpost.org/fortification-hill/154642
The Fort is actually in Arizona, despite how close it seems to be to Vegas in the game. That means that if the NCR wanted to attack it, they'd have to cross the Colorado River and launch a full assault into Legion territory. Considering how beat up they were after the Battle of Hoover Dam - a battle they won - I have a feeling they wouldn't win that fight.

by The Rich Port » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:26 pm
Bezombia wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
Alternatively, though, they can just contract an assassin of some note, maybe some Courier or something, to assassinate Caesar and watch the Legion scramble to re-organize. In the meantime, the NCR can regroup, rebuild, and strengthen their position in the Mojave, while waiting for the Legion to tear itself apart, to the point that they can in fact cross the Colorado and mop up the stragglers, if there even are any, considering just how loose alliances in the Legion are.
... Which, in my game, and probably canonically, they did.
Or, or, the Legion tries to re-take Hoover Dam again, the NCR puts up a decent fight, but then suddenly some robots from Vegas come in and wipe them both away.

by The Rich Port » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:27 pm
The Matthew Islands wrote:The Legion controlled huge swathes of territory in Arizona, Colorado and Utah.
It's why they were able to go toe to toe with the NCR, who, iirc, even have mechanised units in their army.
Also, while the Legion was expanding westwards (because the NCR blocked it in the East, it would be unlikely they would reach Boston.

by Bezombia » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:39 pm

Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Fordorsia wrote:mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies

by The Rich Port » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:43 pm
Bezombia wrote:>be me
>tops casino
>down -400 due to shitting around in the past
>walk in with lolpoor caps
>get 80 chips
>play blackjack for an hour
>end up with 2000 chips
>go to cashier
>'i'd like caps, please'
>2000 caps.jpg
>open my pipboy to marvel at my new balance
>mfw my game crashes as soon as I open my pip
>mfw I just spent an hour racking up chips and I lost all of it
>mfw I'm crying so hard I can't even close the game, just type this
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by Wisconsin9 » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:55 pm
Bezombia wrote:>be me
>tops casino
>down -400 due to shitting around in the past
>walk in with lolpoor caps
>get 80 chips
>play blackjack for an hour
>end up with 2000 chips
>go to cashier
>'i'd like caps, please'
>2000 caps.jpg
>open my pipboy to marvel at my new balance
>mfw my game crashes as soon as I open my pip
>mfw I just spent an hour racking up chips and I lost all of it
>mfw I'm crying so hard I can't even close the game, just type this
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by Bezombia » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:12 pm
Wisconsin9 wrote:Bezombia wrote:>be me
>tops casino
>down -400 due to shitting around in the past
>walk in with lolpoor caps
>get 80 chips
>play blackjack for an hour
>end up with 2000 chips
>go to cashier
>'i'd like caps, please'
>2000 caps.jpg
>open my pipboy to marvel at my new balance
>mfw my game crashes as soon as I open my pip
>mfw I just spent an hour racking up chips and I lost all of it
>mfw I'm crying so hard I can't even close the game, just type this
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Fordorsia wrote:mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies

by Spoder » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:41 pm
Bezombia wrote:>be me
>tops casino
>down -400 due to shitting around in the past
>walk in with lolpoor caps
>get 80 chips
>play blackjack for an hour
>end up with 2000 chips
>go to cashier
>'i'd like caps, please'
>2000 caps.jpg
>open my pipboy to marvel at my new balance
>mfw my game crashes as soon as I open my pip
>mfw I just spent an hour racking up chips and I lost all of it
>mfw I'm crying so hard I can't even close the game, just type this
(Image)
pic related
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