The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra thread II: The Revenge

[New haven america]

Fund it.

Yeah... I like my 3 waring nations idea better...

[Reploid Productions]

Fund it.

No. Aside from being stupid, they aren't gonna go from 1930's-ish tech to space age in 27 years.

I dunno, the real world went from 1930s-ish tech to space in only a marginally longer span of time, and the real world lacks spirit WTFery or bending. Let's recall Azula was using firebending for aerial maneuvering like a human-sized rocket WITHOUT the comet's enormous power boost. Or that Zuko's grandson WAS pulling off full-blown rocketflight with firebending, again without the comet's boost in season 1 of LoK.

If they could manage a spirit-vine powered giant mecha on "1930s-ish tech", I'm pretty sure they could swing a spirit-vine powered, comet-boosted firebending-propelled rocketship in considerably less time than it took us to go from 1930s tech to landing on the moon. (Technically, the Germans got something shot high enough to be "in space" as early as the 1940s, and let's not forget Sputnik launching into orbit by 1957... which would be 27 years from 1930, funny enough.) The US went from 1930s tech to the moon in just under 40 years; I could see the Avatar world being able to pull off at least getting shit into orbit within 27.

[Ameriganastan]

Going from 1930's to space age is STUPID. 27 years? We didn't suddenly go from 1988, to Jupiter in the 27 years did we? And just in case I didn't drive it home before, IT'S A STUPID IDEA.

[Reploid Productions]

Going from 1930's to space age is STUPID. 27 years? We didn't suddenly go from 1988, to Jupiter in the 27 years did we?

Point to where the blog mentions anything beyond going to the moon and you might have had a point. We did go from 1930s to space age in 27 years if you count Sputnik as the start of the space age, and the blog specifically only talks about operations in Earth orbit with the eventual goal of the moon.

[New haven america]

Going from 1930's to space age is STUPID. 27 years? We didn't suddenly go from 1988, to Jupiter in the 27 years did we?

Point to where the blog mentions anything beyond going to the moon and you might have had a point. We did go from 1930s to space age in 27 years if you count Sputnik as the start of the space age, and the blog specifically only talks about operations in Earth orbit with the eventual goal of the moon.

Pretty sure rocketry started before the even the 1920's, so IRL we had much more science and time built up on how we'd get a rocket into space.

[Reploid Productions]

Point to where the blog mentions anything beyond going to the moon and you might have had a point. We did go from 1930s to space age in 27 years if you count Sputnik as the start of the space age, and the blog specifically only talks about operations in Earth orbit with the eventual goal of the moon.

Pretty sure rocketry started before the even the 1920's, so IRL we had much more science and time built up on how we'd get a rocket into space.

Heck, I could see repurposing a system like the spirit vine cannon into a launch system, at least for early tests and work toward a comet-assisted launch. Pretty sure they've shown firebending-propelled rockets in use by the Republic navy in LoK season 1.

Granted, the Avatar universe is lacking in a Cold War to motivate the endeavor, but on the other hand, they have a (generally speaking) more unified global civilization, along with a (again, generally speaking) widely respected single figure in the Avatar to perhaps give them the nudge to work toward it as a shared goal.

[Wisconsin9]

Pretty sure rocketry started before the even the 1920's, so IRL we had much more science and time built up on how we'd get a rocket into space.

Heck, I could see repurposing a system like the spirit vine cannon into a launch system, at least for early tests and work toward a comet-assisted launch. Pretty sure they've shown firebending-propelled rockets in use by the Republic navy in LoK season 1.

Granted, the Avatar universe is lacking in a Cold War to motivate the endeavor, but on the other hand, they have a (generally speaking) more unified global civilization, along with a (again, generally speaking) widely respected single figure in the Avatar to perhaps give them the nudge to work toward it as a shared goal.

Hmm. If you had enough earth benders, you could maybe have them act as a kind of mass driver, then use the cannon to establish orbit. If there are enough air benders, they could maintain a vacuum during at least the lower part of the ascent, which would be really helpful... you'd need some serious cushioning, though, if you wanted to send someone up. Maybe you could do something with water bending....

[Ameriganastan]

I see my point has fallen on deaf ears. Super...

[Reploid Productions]

I see my point has fallen on deaf ears. Super...

It's not that your point has fallen on deaf ears, it's that you haven't made a valid one besides your opinion that it's stupid. Your other argument that going from 1930s tech to space isn't possible has already been soundly disproven by reality.

[Immoren]

It's not like there isn't precedent about science fiction being hilariously optimistic about development of technology some times.

[New haven america]

I see my point has fallen on deaf ears. Super...

It's not that your point has fallen on deaf ears, it's that you haven't made a valid one besides your opinion that it's stupid. Your other argument that going from 1930s tech to space isn't possible has already been soundly disproven by reality.

But it doesn't/wouldn't feel like Avatar.

Sure the series has mechs and giant bombs, but the series is more about spirituality, philosophy, human relation to the Earth (Well, in water benders case, the Moon), and people using spirit magic to control the elements. I don't really think having Korra piloting a spaceship in Earth orbit saying "Republic City, we have a problem." would work well with what the two series have shown/explored.

[Reploid Productions]

It's not that your point has fallen on deaf ears, it's that you haven't made a valid one besides your opinion that it's stupid. Your other argument that going from 1930s tech to space isn't possible has already been soundly disproven by reality.

But it doesn't feel like Avatar.

Sure the series has mechs and giant bombs, but the series is more about spirituality, philosophy, human relation to the Earth (Well, in water benders case, the Moon), and people using spirit magic to control the elements. I don't really think having Korra piloting a spaceship in Earth orbit saying "Republic City, we have a problem." would work well with what the two series have shown/explored.

I dunno, it could also open up really interesting new angles to explore. It's pretty common to have astronauts describe looking at the Earth from up there as a profound spiritual experience, I could see that tied in rather neatly to the series' established existence of spirits and stuff. Hell, the entire moon spirit angle and trying to get to the moon could set up all sorts of intriguing plot elements.

And from the description in the blog, I got less of a "Korra commanding the ship" from it and more "spearheading the effort and helping with the launch," with other characters actually on board.

[New haven america]

But it doesn't feel like Avatar.

Sure the series has mechs and giant bombs, but the series is more about spirituality, philosophy, human relation to the Earth (Well, in water benders case, the Moon), and people using spirit magic to control the elements. I don't really think having Korra piloting a spaceship in Earth orbit saying "Republic City, we have a problem." would work well with what the two series have shown/explored.

I dunno, it could also open up really interesting new angles to explore. It's pretty common to have astronauts describe looking at the Earth from up there as a profound spiritual experience, I could see that tied in rather neatly to the series' established existence of spirits and stuff. Hell, the entire moon spirit angle and trying to get to the moon could set up all sorts of intriguing plot elements.

And from the description in the blog, I got less of a "Korra commanding the ship" from it and more "spearheading the effort and helping with the launch," with other characters actually on board.

And I doubt it, considering the whole, y'know, spirit magic to control the elements and East Asian Philosophy parts, which even though the UR is still based on the US, it's still very east asian. Also, the Moon Spirit lives in the north pole, I don't see how taking it to space would change anything...

Because the level headed, patient, and oh so calm Korra would somehow get the scientific and leadership abilities to help spearhead a project like that...

Yeah, don't see it working, prefer my idea. *Nod*

[Ameriganastan]

The Booty.

[United States of Natan]

So did anyone celebrate Avatar day (Feb. 21st)?

[Alaizia]

I dunno, it could also open up really interesting new angles to explore. It's pretty common to have astronauts describe looking at the Earth from up there as a profound spiritual experience, I could see that tied in rather neatly to the series' established existence of spirits and stuff. Hell, the entire moon spirit angle and trying to get to the moon could set up all sorts of intriguing plot elements.

And from the description in the blog, I got less of a "Korra commanding the ship" from it and more "spearheading the effort and helping with the launch," with other characters actually on board.

And I doubt it, considering the whole, y'know, spirit magic to control the elements and East Asian Philosophy parts, which even though the UR is still based on the US, it's still very east asian. Also, the Moon Spirit lives in the north pole, I don't see how taking it to space would change anything...

Because the level headed, patient, and oh so calm Korra would somehow get the scientific and leadership abilities to help spearhead a project like that...

Yeah, don't see it working, prefer my idea. *Nod*

So upon that: how far would you like/see the Avatarverse technology advance without ruining that world's spirituality.

[Charellia]

And I doubt it, considering the whole, y'know, spirit magic to control the elements and East Asian Philosophy parts, which even though the UR is still based on the US, it's still very east asian. Also, the Moon Spirit lives in the north pole, I don't see how taking it to space would change anything...

Because the level headed, patient, and oh so calm Korra would somehow get the scientific and leadership abilities to help spearhead a project like that...

Yeah, don't see it working, prefer my idea. *Nod*

So upon that: how far would you like/see the Avatarverse technology advance without ruining that world's spirituality.

I thought that they were pushing it even in LoK

[New haven america]

And I doubt it, considering the whole, y'know, spirit magic to control the elements and East Asian Philosophy parts, which even though the UR is still based on the US, it's still very east asian. Also, the Moon Spirit lives in the north pole, I don't see how taking it to space would change anything...

Because the level headed, patient, and oh so calm Korra would somehow get the scientific and leadership abilities to help spearhead a project like that...

Yeah, don't see it working, prefer my idea. *Nod*

So upon that: how far would you like/see the Avatarverse technology advance without ruining that world's spirituality.

1940's at most. Even the battle-suits/mech were pushing it, but I let it slide because the fights were awesome.

Also, more bending tech please. One of the reason TLA had such a great world was because of how people used bending to build and control things, except for the powerplants and Zao Fu, there wasn't much of it in LoK, and I kinda missed that.

[United States of Natan]

So upon that: how far would you like/see the Avatarverse technology advance without ruining that world's spirituality.

I thought that they were pushing it even in LoK

Yeah, the world advanced extremely quickly over the past 70 years. I hope the next avatar isn't in a completely modern world.

Speaking of the next Avatar, when Kuvira was about to kill Korra after their battle outside Zaofu, do you think she realized that the next Avatar would be reincarnated into her Earth Empire? because I think she realized it, and I bet she was going to try to take advantage of that by finding the next Avatar, and taking the child from their parents and raise the Avatar as her own personal weapon.

[Jaslandia]

I thought that they were pushing it even in LoK

Yeah, the world advanced extremely quickly over the past 70 years. I hope the next avatar isn't in a completely modern world.

Speaking of the next Avatar, when Kuvira was about to kill Korra after their battle outside Zaofu, do you think she realized that the next Avatar would be reincarnated into her Earth Empire? because I think she realized it, and I bet she was going to try to take advantage of that by finding the next Avatar, and taking the child from their parents and raise the Avatar as her own personal weapon.

I wouldn't be surprised. Considering Kuvira was willing to kill her fiance for the sake of expanding her empire, and she put people in concentration camps, kidnapping and brainwashing a child doesn't seem out of character for Kuvira. Although, the White Lotus and Korra's old friends and allies would likely also looking for the Earth Avatar, so Kuvira would have to take care of all of them and hope they don't find the new Avatar first.

[United States of Natan]

Yeah, the world advanced extremely quickly over the past 70 years. I hope the next avatar isn't in a completely modern world.

Speaking of the next Avatar, when Kuvira was about to kill Korra after their battle outside Zaofu, do you think she realized that the next Avatar would be reincarnated into her Earth Empire? because I think she realized it, and I bet she was going to try to take advantage of that by finding the next Avatar, and taking the child from their parents and raise the Avatar as her own personal weapon.

I wouldn't be surprised. Considering Kuvira was willing to kill her fiance for the sake of expanding her empire, and she put people in concentration camps, kidnapping and brainwashing a child doesn't seem out of character for Kuvira. Although, the White Lotus and Korra's old friends and allies would likely also looking for the Earth Avatar, so Kuvira would have to take care of all of them and hope they don't find the new Avatar first.

Well, considering Kuvira would have the energy weapon, and there would be no Avatar around to help, I'd say she would't have much trouble. Likely, the world would be plunged into another world war, not unlike the hundred year war.

[New haven america]

I thought that they were pushing it even in LoK

A. Yeah, the world advanced extremely quickly over the past 70 years. B.I hope the next avatar isn't in a completely modern world.

A. No, not really. The technology they had in LoK (Minus the suits/mechs) was only slightly more advanced than the tech of the Fire Nation and that small group of people in the air temple, so no, the jump in tech was pretty believable.

B. Bahahahahahahahahaha.

Yeah, cause after Korra's run, Nick's totally allow another series.

[Jaslandia]

Yeah, cause after Korra's run, Nick's totally allow another series.

Yeah, I also highly doubt Nick wants anything to do with A:TLA/LoK at this point. Right now I'm hoping Gene Yang and Dark Horse take an interest in LoK and we see some LoK comics being published. At least the comics might have more creative freedom to show certain things (*cough*Korra and Asami's relationship*cough*).

[Rhodevus]

Yeah, cause after Korra's run, Nick's totally allow another series.

Yeah, I also highly doubt Nick wants anything to do with A:TLA/LoK at this point. Right now I'm hoping Gene Yang and Dark Horse take an interest in LoK and we see some LoK comics being published. At least the comics might have more creative freedom to show certain things (*cough*Korra and Asami's relationship*cough*).

I would love some more Avatar comics!

[Forsher]

Give me fifty earthbenders and you don't even need a really powerful rocket... you just launch from closer to the atmosphere...