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Postby Filopines » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:15 pm

The IASM wrote:I personally prefer this as a testfor bending, I like more results and anyway I got metalbender.

I got the Avatar! :blink:

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Postby Forsher » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:44 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
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It's tied to how bending works/is used. Also, Mai and Tai Lee were upper class companions to Azula so while they weren't benders themselves they were probably put through something broadly equivalent to Azula's firebending instruction.

Characters who aren't benders (for instance, Wu) lack these skills, for the most part. Sokka's kind of another example.

There are probably some exceptions that can't be explained via military training... although the skill level may be the bigger issue.

No, I get that most everyone with crazy combat skills in the universe has a good reason to have them. It just seems a bit strange that the producers didn't really include anyone who doesn't have them. I mean, yeah, war and all that, but you'd think there'd be at least a couple more people in the world who were important, competent, and not evil without being able to take down a small army.


I think many of the administrative players that we've seen, ignoring their age (look at Iroh and Bumi), have lacked that. In many respects, you notice all these people with mad skills because the fact that they have mad skills means they put themselves in such positions to use them and end up in positions of respect because of those mad skills. That has the consequence of their being likely to be plot relevant.

There's probably some trope that describes the underlying pattern. A character trait becomes notable because that trait is responsible for the character's involvement with the plot.

Asami's combat capabilities seem to revolve mostly around tech, for reference. Notice that she became plot relevant due to her father and/or looks. She stayed plot relevant due to that tech, the business and her friendships.
Zhu Li is, arguably, an exception here. She is pretty good at fighting but I think that may just be in a mecha.


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The IASM wrote:I personally prefer this as a testfor bending, I like more results and anyway I got metalbender.

I don't, I always get waterbender on that test.

Everything else says I'm a firebender.


Both of the ones in this thread gave me airbender. The one with the percentages wasn't too different with waterbender though and neither was particularly strong. Furthermore, I never feel as if I quite capture my self in such quizzes.
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Postby Alaizia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:50 am

Ameriganastan wrote:My God, I've discovered something positive that came from the Last Airbender movie existing.


I didn't know that.

But I'm not very much surprised. The majority of voice actresses in ATLA and LoK are pretty good looking and/or charming. Especially the ones that give their voices to young aged women. Some of them:

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Ameriganastan wrote:My God, I've discovered something positive that came from the Last Airbender movie existing.


I didn't know that.

But I'm not very much surprised. The majority of voice actresses in ATLA and LoK are pretty good looking and/or charming. Especially the ones that give their voices to young aged women. Some of them:

- Katara

- Korra

- Azula

- and Yue. Oh Johanna Braddy, you are to me the most beautiful Avatar voice actress. :blush:

I actually don't like knowing what VA's look like. Spoils the illusion.
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Postby Alaizia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:58 am

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I didn't know that.

But I'm not very much surprised. The majority of voice actresses in ATLA and LoK are pretty good looking and/or charming. Especially the ones that give their voices to young aged women. Some of them:

- Katara

- Korra

- Azula

- and Yue. Oh Johanna Braddy, you are to me the most beautiful Avatar voice actress. :blush:

I actually don't like knowing what VA's look like. Spoils the illusion.


Me too. But in some cases like Korra (only with brown hair and tanned skin), Azula and to some lesser degree Yue, the VAs match well with their respective characters' appearence.

But even so, the temptation is too strong for me. Unless the VA is not very good-looking and does not match their character. In that case, I close my eyes and the window. :p
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Wisconsin9 wrote:
Forsher wrote:It's tied to how bending works/is used. Also, Mai and Tai Lee were upper class companions to Azula so while they weren't benders themselves they were probably put through something broadly equivalent to Azula's firebending instruction.
Characters who aren't benders (for instance, Wu) lack these skills, for the most part. Sokka's kind of another example.
There are probably some exceptions that can't be explained via military training... although the skill level may be the bigger issue.

No, I get that most everyone with crazy combat skills in the universe has a good reason to have them. It just seems a bit strange that the producers didn't really include anyone who doesn't have them. I mean, yeah, war and all that, but you'd think there'd be at least a couple more people in the world who were important, competent, and not evil without being able to take down a small army.
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Postby United States of Natan » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:55 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Forsher wrote:
It's tied to how bending works/is used. Also, Mai and Tai Lee were upper class companions to Azula so while they weren't benders themselves they were probably put through something broadly equivalent to Azula's firebending instruction.

Characters who aren't benders (for instance, Wu) lack these skills, for the most part. Sokka's kind of another example.

There are probably some exceptions that can't be explained via military training... although the skill level may be the bigger issue.

No, I get that most everyone with crazy combat skills in the universe has a good reason to have them. It just seems a bit strange that the producers didn't really include anyone who doesn't have them. I mean, yeah, war and all that, but you'd think there'd be at least a couple more people in the world who were important, competent, and not evil without being able to take down a small army.

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Plenty of important nonbenders in positions of power.
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Postby Laerod » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:59 pm

United States of Natan wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:No, I get that most everyone with crazy combat skills in the universe has a good reason to have them. It just seems a bit strange that the producers didn't really include anyone who doesn't have them. I mean, yeah, war and all that, but you'd think there'd be at least a couple more people in the world who were important, competent, and not evil without being able to take down a small army.

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Suki of Kyoshi Island

Plenty of important nonbenders in positions of power.

Kuei, Hou-ting, Wu, and Suki fail the criteria listed by Wisconsin9. Kuei and Wu aren't competent, Hou-ting was evil, and Suki could take down a small army.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:14 pm

Laerod wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:Earth King Kuei
Earth Queen Hou-ting
Earth King Wu
Chief Arnook of the Northern Water Tribe
Chief Hakoda of the Southern Water Tribe
Chief Sokka of the Southern Water Tribe
President Raiko of the United Republic
Princess Yue of the Northern Water Tribe
Suki of Kyoshi Island

Plenty of important nonbenders in positions of power.

Kuei, Hou-ting, Wu, and Suki fail the criteria listed by Wisconsin9. Kuei and Wu aren't competent, Hou-ting was evil, and Suki could take down a small army.

The Chiefs seem borderline at best, or at least Hakoda and Sokka are, being able to kick some serious ass. The only person I'd definitely keep on the list is Yue, then the Chiefs as maybes, and a very honking big maybe for Varrick depending on how season four goes.
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United States of Natan wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:No, I get that most everyone with crazy combat skills in the universe has a good reason to have them. It just seems a bit strange that the producers didn't really include anyone who doesn't have them. I mean, yeah, war and all that, but you'd think there'd be at least a couple more people in the world who were important, competent, and not evil without being able to take down a small army.

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Wait. Kuei and Hou-Ting were non-benders?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:27 pm

Alaizia wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:Earth King Kuei
Earth Queen Hou-ting


Wait. Kuei and Hou-Ting were non-benders?

I think so. Also incompetent, and it would be generous to say that Hou-Ting was a massive bitch.
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Kuei ceased to be incompetent after he was restored to the throne, if I remember correctly.

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The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:Kuei ceased to be incompetent after he was restored to the throne, if I remember correctly.

Right, and as mentioned before, Wu gradually becomes more competent as Season 4 goes on.
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Postby Alaizia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:02 pm

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:Kuei ceased to be incompetent after he was restored to the throne, if I remember correctly.


However he was incompetent enough to raise a bitch of a daughter. *ahem

In my book, he goes as weak and incompetent.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:16 pm

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The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:Kuei ceased to be incompetent after he was restored to the throne, if I remember correctly.


However he was incompetent enough to raise a bitch of a daughter. *ahem

In my book, he goes as weak and incompetent.

I kinda see that as a similar situation with the Beifongs. He had too little control of his kingdom during his reign, and perhaps overcompensated too far the other direction with his heir, resulting in that overbearing self-important tyrant. Much like how Toph had a hyper-controlled upbringing with too little freedom, went too far the opposite way with Su and Lin in giving them too much freedom (and Su was almost about to seesaw back in the direction of too little with Opal.) After all, one thing we certainly know about the Avatarverse is that there is a LOT of bad parenting. :P
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However he was incompetent enough to raise a bitch of a daughter. *ahem

In my book, he goes as weak and incompetent.

I kinda see that as a similar situation with the Beifongs. He had too little control of his kingdom during his reign, and perhaps overcompensated too far the other direction with his heir, resulting in that overbearing self-important tyrant. Much like how Toph had a hyper-controlled upbringing with too little freedom, went too far the opposite way with Su and Lin in giving them too much freedom (and Su was almost about to seesaw back in the direction of too little with Opal.) After all, one thing we certainly know about the Avatarverse is that there is a LOT of bad parenting. :P

I think that's a good thing though. Rather than romanticizing the perfection of the characters we love, the writers admit they have flaws.
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You dare associate a Pokemon with the falsehood of Korrasami? You are a monster, to have done such a thing to a pokemon.

Natan, your denial of reality stopped being funny last thread.

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You dare associate a Pokemon with the falsehood of Korrasami? You are a monster, to have done such a thing to a pokemon.

We get it. You don't like KorraSami. Can you spare us the delusional whining when someone posts it? Cripes.
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United States of Natan wrote:You dare associate a Pokemon with the falsehood of Korrasami? You are a monster, to have done such a thing to a pokemon.

We get it. You don't like KorraSami. Can you spare us the delusional whining when someone posts it? Cripes.

Hey, I've been holding back my comments. And I'll post what I want. You never stopped when we complained about your complaining about the show.
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You dare associate a Pokemon with the falsehood of Korrasami? You are a monster, to have done such a thing to a pokemon.

That's nice, Natan.

So I got waterbender on that second quiz that was posted earlier. I swear, I get differing answers on almost any "Which element-" quizzes I've tried.
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