The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra thread II: The Revenge

[Kohr]

I figure I am extremely cautiously optimistic about the live action series. As noted previously, the movie's main issue was M. Night Shayamalan. Avatar is something that could work quite well in a live-action format, especially given the level of effort that went into the original's action choreography; much of the action from the cartoon could work quite well as basically live-action martial arts supplemented with CGI for the bending effects. I think a really big indicator of whether or not it has a chance will be once we get some casting information. The Avatar world is very visibly diverse in ethnicity, and if the live action show's cast is appropriately diverse, I think that will be a positive sign.

But yeeeah. Once burned, twice shy. I'm willing to give it a try, but I am not particularly getting my hopes up.

After the giant casting backlash the movie got, I think they'll get it right.

[Ameriganastan]

I'm just gonna leave this here and hope you people come to your senses.

[Reploid Productions]

I figure I am extremely cautiously optimistic about the live action series. As noted previously, the movie's main issue was M. Night Shayamalan. Avatar is something that could work quite well in a live-action format, especially given the level of effort that went into the original's action choreography; much of the action from the cartoon could work quite well as basically live-action martial arts supplemented with CGI for the bending effects. I think a really big indicator of whether or not it has a chance will be once we get some casting information. The Avatar world is very visibly diverse in ethnicity, and if the live action show's cast is appropriately diverse, I think that will be a positive sign.

But yeeeah. Once burned, twice shy. I'm willing to give it a try, but I am not particularly getting my hopes up.

After the giant casting backlash the movie got, I think they'll get it right.

I can only hope so. If they can do it right, it could be so good. But damn that remains a very big IF.

[Ardoki]

I think a live action version would require a far greater budget than it is realistically going to get. So, I'm not optimistic at the moment.

[United States of Natan]

I figure I am extremely cautiously optimistic about the live action series. As noted previously, the movie's main issue was M. Night Shayamalan. Avatar is something that could work quite well in a live-action format, especially given the level of effort that went into the original's action choreography; much of the action from the cartoon could work quite well as basically live-action martial arts supplemented with CGI for the bending effects. I think a really big indicator of whether or not it has a chance will be once we get some casting information. The Avatar world is very visibly diverse in ethnicity, and if the live action show's cast is appropriately diverse, I think that will be a positive sign.

But yeeeah. Once burned, twice shy. I'm willing to give it a try, but I am not particularly getting my hopes up.

Mike and Bryan said they were gonna make this one more diverse than the movie. I am more optimistic that it will work, because the movie already showed them what NOT to do, and they are the creators. I think if anyone is capable of making a live-action remake, it's them.

[United States of Natan]

I think a live action version would require a far greater budget than it is realistically going to get. So, I'm not optimistic at the moment.

Netflix has a ton of money, and they know ATLA is a popular franchise. They'll give them the resources they need.

[United States of Natan]

I'm just gonna leave this here and hope you people come to your senses.

Yes, Ameri. We ALL know how horrible the movie was, and how bad the earthbending was in the movie. You don't need to remind us. I can guarantee you Mike and Bryan won't let that happen again.

[Ardoki]

I think a live action version would require a far greater budget than it is realistically going to get. So, I'm not optimistic at the moment.

Netflix has a ton of money, and they know ATLA is a popular franchise. They'll give them the resources they need.

Game of Thrones started running out of money for CGI dragons. This show will require way more CGI than GoT.

[Reploid Productions]

Netflix has a ton of money, and they know ATLA is a popular franchise. They'll give them the resources they need.

Game of Thrones started running out of money for CGI dragons. This show will require way more CGI than GoT.

CGI dragons (and probably partially CGI battles) are a lot more resource-intensive than CGI special effects though. Dragons require elaborate and painstaking polygon modelling, UV texturemapping and painting, complex muscular and skeletal animation rigs, lighting maps and lighting and so on; that adds up in terms of hours of work and personnel. In contrast, the vast majority of bending VFX could be created using various particle effects and other mathematically-generated processes in whatever 3D software they use, or in simply having VFX artists add the effects manually in post-processing, requiring far less time and personnel-intensive work.

Most everything else (INCLUDING Appa!) could be accomplished via traditional visual effects. I imagine Appa will be fully CGI, but with how furry he is, the underlying polygon/UVmaps/rigging/etc work would not need to be anywhere near as complex as GoT's dragons are; Appa's animation rig would basically need very simple joints in the legs, feet, spine, and tail, the fur likely done with a studio-proprietary fur tool; the only complex modelling and rigging necessary would be for his face for facial expressions. Momo would be a little more complex to CGI, but with how small he is, they could get away with a much simpler CGI model and simply stage any shots to hide said model's simplicity; and much like Appa, he'd really only need a good facial rig for close-up expressions.

[Ism]

I'm just saying, if a trailer shows Aang saying "Fuck Gyatso!" I'm not gonna watch it.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Cut Momo. He adds nothing to the story.

There, I said it.

[Olthar]

Cut Momo. He adds nothing to the story.

There, I said it.

He really doesn't.

[Reploid Productions]

Cut Momo. He adds nothing to the story.

There, I said it.

No disagreement there. He's adorable and funny, but what little meaningful things he contributes to the main story could easily be written out or around in a new adaptation.

[Minoa]

Cut Momo. He adds nothing to the story.

There, I said it.

No disagreement there. He's adorable and funny, but what little meaningful things he contributes to the main story could easily be written out or around in a new adaptation.

Or a spin-off, in my opinion.

[Forsher]

I think a live action version would require a far greater budget than it is realistically going to get. So, I'm not optimistic at the moment.

Netflix has a ton of money, and they know ATLA is a popular franchise. They'll give them the resources they need.

Tell that to Iron Fist.

Cut Momo. He adds nothing to the story.

There, I said it.

Appa ate Momo.

The Samurai Scene.

Momo fetching wrong things for Sokka.

Momo is an iconic character!

[United States of Natan]

Netflix has a ton of money, and they know ATLA is a popular franchise. They'll give them the resources they need.

Tell that to Iron Fist.

Cut Momo. He adds nothing to the story.

There, I said it.

Appa ate Momo.

The Samurai Scene.

Momo fetching wrong things for Sokka.

Momo is an iconic character!

I don't know what iron fist is, nor do I care. Regardless, I trust Mike and Bryan to make a good show, regardless of how much money they get.

And yes, I agree that Momo is necessary to the show. Bumi would be pissed if he wasn't! They shouldn't make a show devoid of any comedy.

[New haven america]

Tell that to Iron Fist.



Appa ate Momo.

The Samurai Scene.

Momo fetching wrong things for Sokka.

Momo is an iconic character!

I don't know what iron fist is, nor do I care.

It was a shitty Netflix MCU series.

And you should care, because it proves that Netflix, just like any other company, can be picky on how well the fund and write shows.

[United States of Natan]

I don't know what iron fist is, nor do I care.

It was a shitty Netflix MCU series.

And you should care, because it proves that Netflix, just like any other company, can be picky on how well the fund and write shows.

Whether netflix funds it well or not (and I suspect they will; I don't think Mike and Bryan would agree to it if it wasn't), I trust that Mike and Bryan and their writing team will write it well (again, I don't think they'd agree to it if Netflix was limiting their creative freedom). Mike and Bryan created the franchise. If anyone's capable of making this show a success, its them.

[Impaled Nazarene]

I would be on board with a live action spinoff. But they need to get the visuals right, and I don't mean effects. You can't simply dress the people up in the appropriate or sufficiently adjacent clothing and have it work by itself. The lighting, angles, background, visual tone and all the film effects need to be right.

I need to be able to look at a 10 second clip featuring no foreground characters with no sound and be able to say: This will work for the world of Avatar.

[United States of Natan]

I would be on board with a live action spinoff. But they need to get the visuals right, and I don't mean effects. You can't simply dress the people up in the appropriate or sufficiently adjacent clothing and have it work by itself. The lighting, angles, background, visual tone and all the film effects need to be right.

I need to be able to look at a 10 second clip featuring no foreground characters with no sound and be able to say: This will work for the world of Avatar.

Again, Mike and Bryan are running the show. I think they'll do it justice.

[Impaled Nazarene]

I would be on board with a live action spinoff. But they need to get the visuals right, and I don't mean effects. You can't simply dress the people up in the appropriate or sufficiently adjacent clothing and have it work by itself. The lighting, angles, background, visual tone and all the film effects need to be right.

I need to be able to look at a 10 second clip featuring no foreground characters with no sound and be able to say: This will work for the world of Avatar.

Again, Mike and Bryan are running the show. I think they'll do it justice.

True but this time there are different obstacles.

[United States of Natan]

Again, Mike and Bryan are running the show. I think they'll do it justice.

True but this time there are different obstacles.

True, but a lot of people are quick to judge this new show based on the movie. That's not fair, because the reason the movie failed was a crappy director and producer, not the fact it was live action. The movie COULD have been more successful if they'd gotten better people to make it, and had stayed true to the cartoon.

[Ameriganastan]

I love how you pretend Bryan and Mike had nothing to do with that movie. They were both executive producers on that mess. So it's completely fair.

[Saiwania]

I love how you pretend Bryan and Mike had nothing to do with that movie. They were both executive producers on that mess. So it's completely fair.

I'm actually a bit sad that the Shymalan trilogy won't be finished. I'd rather have a complete trilogy of movies that're "so bad its good" than only one epically awful film. It means more funny scenes and can help a future production avoid the same mistakes. I'd be interested in seeing a horribly "butchered" version of Books 2 and 3 if its equally as bad if not worse- than the one crap film we have.

Its sort of crazy that there existed this one trailer film for Book 1 but it wasn't even in the movie, but this scene of a Fire Nation navy flotilla firing off a thousand fireballs of artillery in live action- was better than the actual product people got.

[Kohr]

I love how you pretend Bryan and Mike had nothing to do with that movie. They were both executive producers on that mess. So it's completely fair.

I'm actually a bit sad that the Shymalan trilogy won't be finished. I'd rather have a complete trilogy of movies that're "so bad its good" than only one epically awful film. It means more funny scenes and can help a future production avoid the same mistakes. I'd be interested in seeing a horribly "butchered" version of Books 2 and 3 if its equally as bad if not worse- than the one crap film we have.

Its sort of crazy that there existed this one trailer film for Book 1 but it wasn't even in the movie, but this scene of a Fire Nation navy flotilla firing off a thousand fireballs of artillery in live action- was better than the actual product people got.

I don’t know. Since the movie felt like a genuine insult to the series, I wouldn’t want to give it sequels...