1984 No spoilers!

[Bariloche]

Aliterary trash.

Ither it is "aliterature" or it is trash, it can't be both.

[Coffin-Breathe]

Imo, the book is a very good showing of how an human-made and induced society is exploited to stand as an unstoppable machine on it´s own purpose, crushing and destroying the individual human in almost every aspect of it´s psychic existence to nurture it´s own needs and existence (the system´s).

If interested and attracted, you might follow up by reading Dostojewskij´s The Great-Inquisitor and Nietsche´s Zarathustra...

[Katganistan]

Where do you all get this book from? Not a single one of the 24 public libraries in the county have them. I would like to read it.

Well, I know I've taught it my my high school.... I believe I first came across it in college. Surely there's a bookstore where you could get it? Maybe one like Book Cellar where everything's discounted?

[Bariloche]

If interested and attracted, you might follow up by reading Dostojewskij´s The Great-Inquisitor and Nietsche´s Zarathustra...

No offense dude, but... boooring. And if there's something worst than Nietzsche's philosophical stance, it's Nietzsche's political stance.

[Verzia]

Where do you all get this book from? Not a single one of the 24 public libraries in the county have them. I would like to read it.

found it, the kid who owns it said it was his, and I told him I wanted to finish it, and that I would never let anything bad happen to it, so I can finish it.

[Verzia]

Where do you all get this book from? Not a single one of the 24 public libraries in the county have them. I would like to read it.

Well, I know I've taught it my my high school.... I believe I first came across it in college. Surely there's a bookstore where you could get it? Maybe one like Book Cellar where everything's discounted?

I know barns and noble has it, online you can buy it, but I don't know of any place where I live that would carry it.

[Coffin-Breathe]

If interested and attracted, you might follow up by reading Dostojewskij´s The Great-Inquisitor and Nietsche´s Zarathustra...

No offense dude, but... boooring. And if there's something worst than Nietzsche's philosophical stance, it's Nietzsche's political stance.

No offense taken, dude, but God is dead, and Nietzsche´s too...and I don´t give a damn for the political stances of long dead people (seen in the society and environment of their time) - but it´s a great source of philosophical issues; some doesn´t have to agree with him, but I guess, he´s worth of reading nevertheless.

[WWII History Geeks]

I love Big Brother

[Bariloche]

No offense taken, dude, but God is dead, and Nietzsche´s too...and I don´t give a damn for the political stances of long dead people (seen in the society and environment of their time) - but it´s a great source of philosophical issues; some doesn´t have to agree with him, but I guess, he´s worth of reading nevertheless.

Oh, I've read, and I've yawned, and then I wrote some nice critics that probably no one is ever going to read... but whatever...

[Allbeama]

I love Big Brother

Shock and Awe!

[WWII History Geeks]

I love Big Brother

Shock and Awe!

Really? I thought the book was meant to do that...

In a sense, I also got from the book a way to love thine own superiors because of their creation of society and meaning they give your life.

[Chernobyl-Pripyat]

Voldemort kills Snape

[Coffin-Breathe]

No offense taken, dude, but God is dead, and Nietzsche´s too...and I don´t give a damn for the political stances of long dead people (seen in the society and environment of their time) - but it´s a great source of philosophical issues; some doesn´t have to agree with him, but I guess, he´s worth of reading nevertheless.

Oh, I've read, and I've yawned, and then I wrote some nice critics that probably no one is ever going to read... but whatever...

Well, you´ve yawned but then you felt inspired enough to write some critics about - which, imo, makes one of your statements illogical; if it was this boring, so why then (suspected, that´s not your job) take the efforts to write a critic, or if it was worthy a critic, then it couldn´t have been this boring...

[Allbeama]

I love Big Brother

Shock and Awe!

Really? I thought the book was meant to do that...

In a sense, I also got from the book a way to love thine own superiors because of their creation of society and meaning they give your life.

It was meant to negatively critique authoritarianism. Orwell would vomit at that notion. I mean it was a distopian world where sexuality is repressed, thought is policed, and the government has total control of our lives. It is essentially a commentary on the world of Stalins and Hitlers that Orwell saw in his lifetime.

[Bariloche]

Well, you´ve yawned but then you felt inspired enough to write some critics about - which, imo, makes one of your statements illogical; if it was this boring, so why then (suspected, that´s not your job) take the efforts to write a critic, or if it was worthy a critic, then it couldn´t have been this boring...

Whenever I say something is boring, it means that it doesn't move you to improve by itself. I've only thought of criticizing [sp?], because of the unbelievable amount of hype that built around someone who I think was... simplyfing to the maximum possible... whining about the state of his society, without almost no Historical perspective whatsoever.

Coming back on topic, I've been looking for my copy of 1984 and can't find it... you've all doomed me to hours of trash-diving. DAMN YOU!

[WWII History Geeks]

I love Big Brother

Shock and Awe!

Really? I thought the book was meant to do that...

In a sense, I also got from the book a way to love thine own superiors because of their creation of society and meaning they give your life.

It was meant to negatively critique authoritarianism. Orwell would vomit at that notion. I mean it was a distopian world where sexuality is repressed, thought is policed, and the government has total control of our lives. It is essentially a commentary on the world of Stalins and Hitlers that Orwell saw in his lifetime.

Oh, yes, I know that. I love Orwell's work. But I, myself, actually thought it was interesting and a little mind-bending...it had the opposite of the intended effect on me.

[The Parkus Empire]

I love Big Brother

Shock and Awe!

Really? I thought the book was meant to do that...

In a sense, I also got from the book a way to love thine own superiors because of their creation of society and meaning they give your life.

So you sort of see Big Brother as a metaphor for God?

[WWII History Geeks]

I love Big Brother

Shock and Awe!

Really? I thought the book was meant to do that...

In a sense, I also got from the book a way to love thine own superiors because of their creation of society and meaning they give your life.

So you sort of see Big Brother as a metaphor for God?

No, not at all, actually. I actually tried to view it through an atheist perspective, since I don't remember any mention of God in it.

[The Parkus Empire]

No, not at all, actually. I actually tried to view it through an atheist perspective, since I don't remember any mention of God in it.

Oh, I thought that's what you meant about "loving the creator".

Religion is considered and enemy of the government in the book and, of course, Big Brother pressures Winston with the reminder that if there is no God, then there is no reason that good must win.

[WWII History Geeks]

No, not at all, actually. I actually tried to view it through an atheist perspective, since I don't remember any mention of God in it.

Oh, I thought that's what you meant about "loving the creator".

Religion is considered and enemy of the government in the book and, of course, Big Brother pressures Winston with the reminder that if there is no God, then there is no reason that good must win.

In that sense I enjoyed it. But as a Christian I have to admit it was only all right. Gave me some food for thought, in any case, though.

[The Parkus Empire]

If you're looking for happy-go-lucky fun, watch an MGM musical or something.

[ElJefe]

Where do you all get this book from? Not a single one of the 24 public libraries in the county have them. I would like to read it.

You win the internet.

O'brien is his father, Julia is his sister, Senator Palpatine is Big Brother, Rosebud is his lightsaber, Soylent Chocolate is people, and we've always been at war with the Empire.

[Tunizcha]

I adore the book, both from an intellectual standpoint and a philosophical standpoint.

[Coffin-Breathe]

Well, you´ve yawned but then you felt inspired enough to write some critics about - which, imo, makes one of your statements illogical; if it was this boring, so why then (suspected, that´s not your job) take the efforts to write a critic, or if it was worthy a critic, then it couldn´t have been this boring...

Whenever I say something is boring, it means that it doesn't move you to improve by itself. I've only thought of criticizing [sp?], because of the unbelievable amount of hype that built around someone who I think was... simplyfing to the maximum possible... whining about the state of his society, without almost no Historical perspective whatsoever.

Coming back on topic, I've been looking for my copy of 1984 and can't find it... you've all doomed me to hours of trash-diving. DAMN YOU!

I´d say, you found it boring and threw it in the dumpster maybe...
It was one of the few books I´m able to recall without some reading up again, and compared to the many thousands I´v read in my life, I´d call 1984 to have been really impressive and of deep impact to my thoughts...

[The Parkus Empire]

Where do you all get this book from? Not a single one of the 24 public libraries in the county have them. I would like to read it.

Any self-respecting bookstore should have it, which you will have to go to since your county has such shitty libraries.