Star Wars: Debate Thread

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He's actually an okay enough actor. Additionally according to Jensaari(?) Hayden asked Lucas to rewrite annie as less of a mopey bitch but was shot down.

That gives me a little more respect for the guy, but if he wasn't up for playing the part of the mopey bitch once he found out that's what George Lucas wanted, he should have let someone else do it.

A paycheck is a paycheck at the end of the day.
And it FUCKING STAR WARS nobody who is smart passes up that chance.

Hayden Christensen sucking in most of the prequels is the fault of the director and the script, not the actor himself.

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I don't find Episode II at all entertaining.

Episode I and III have great lightsaber duels I suppose.

Well do what I do. Skip all the Anakin parts and only watch the awesome end of the movie and the Obi Wan parts.

Everything in the first film that is bad has to do with tattooing, jar jar, padme, and Anikan.

The good parts of episode 2 include all scenes with obi wan, kamino and coruscant, and Jango Fett.
Darth tyrants is cool too.
The bad parts includes all padme scenes with Anikan on naboo, the majority of the dialogue too.

Episode 3 is good except for a couple parts: anything with romance between Anikan and padme is sappy and bad, and some of the dialogue is bad too.

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Everybody hates the Prequels and I don't understand it. I loved each and every one of the Prequels, though there were things I wish were different.

Hayden Christensen: The. Biggest. Mistake. Dude can't act. *cue clip of Anakin saying "I hate sand"* My grandmother would have made a better Anakin than HC. He's the biggest problem I have with the Prequels.

Jar-Jar: Not everyone can be a badass. Grow up and deal with it. If one character (and a fairly minor one too) ruins Ep. I for you, than you're just nitpicking. There are as many clumsy, stupid people in a galaxy far, far away, as there are in our world. Deal with it.

Script: Admittedly, there were times when the dialogue felt a bit forced. In my honest opinion, most of the time, this happened when Anakin was involved. Again, if they had gotten a competent actor for Anakin, this would have been a lesser problem. Still a bit cheesy at times, sure, but cheesy isn't always a bad thing.

The Romance: This was done badly, and guess who's at fault? If you guessed Hayden Christensen, you win. The guy is like a male Kristen Stewart. He can't show emotion in his acting, and when he tries, it's obviously forced, and you have to resist the urge to laugh. Padme probably could have had a more fulfilling relationship with a bantha. And as much reason to fall in love with it too.

The Prequels have faults, I'm not denying it, but they were still entertaining movies, and in the end, that's really all that matters. Well, that and the money, but I'll not talk about that.

Jar jar and jake loydd are the worst parts of ep 1
Hayden is a good actor, but other script and Lucas fucked him up

He's actually pretty good in ep 3

Watch nostalgia critic's video: 11 good things about the Star Wars prequels.

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I just finished reading Star Wars Darth Plagueis.
It is awesome. It is eye opening into how palpatine rose to power and reveals the true nature of the events of episode 1 as well as setting up the events for episode 2 in a few ways.

[Bearon]

Well do what I do. Skip all the Anakin parts and only watch the awesome end of the movie and the Obi Wan parts.

Everything in the first film that is bad has to do with tattooing, jar jar, padme, and Anikan.

The good parts of episode 2 include all scenes with obi wan, kamino and coruscant, and Jango Fett.
Darth tyrants is cool too.
The bad parts includes all padme scenes with Anikan on naboo, the majority of the dialogue too.

Episode 3 is good except for a couple parts: anything with romance between Anikan and padme is sappy and bad, and some of the dialogue is bad too.

Honestly I don't find the parts with kid Anakin to be all that bad. I mean he's a kid so my expectations weren't really high and I actually found some of the scenes to be entertaining, Padme was actually ok in that movie as Portman wasn't restricted to being the love interest at least not completely. Jar Jar is annoying but tolerable. Phantom Menace is bagged on too hard.

The romance in the third movie is actually more tolerable once you realize now that Anakin and Padme are husband and wife and are unable to see eachother for a majority of the time because of the war. The scenes have a lot more depth because of that I feel.

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Everything in the first film that is bad has to do with tattooing, jar jar, padme, and Anikan.

The good parts of episode 2 include all scenes with obi wan, kamino and coruscant, and Jango Fett.
Darth tyrants is cool too.
The bad parts includes all padme scenes with Anikan on naboo, the majority of the dialogue too.

Episode 3 is good except for a couple parts: anything with romance between Anikan and padme is sappy and bad, and some of the dialogue is bad too.

Honestly I don't find the parts with kid Anakin to be all that bad. I mean he's a kid so my expectations weren't really high and I actually found some of the scenes to be entertaining, Padme was actually ok in that movie as Portman wasn't restricted to being the love interest at least not completely. Jar Jar is annoying but tolerable. Phantom Menace is bagged on too hard.

The romance in the third movie is actually more tolerable once you realize now that Anakin and Padme are husband and wife and are unable to see eachother for a majority of the time because of the war. The scenes have a lot more depth because of that I feel.

The scenes where they are separated, but thinking of each other is good.
I don't think the charisma is very strong, but I guess it's believable.

[Bearon]

Honestly I don't find the parts with kid Anakin to be all that bad. I mean he's a kid so my expectations weren't really high and I actually found some of the scenes to be entertaining, Padme was actually ok in that movie as Portman wasn't restricted to being the love interest at least not completely. Jar Jar is annoying but tolerable. Phantom Menace is bagged on too hard.

The romance in the third movie is actually more tolerable once you realize now that Anakin and Padme are husband and wife and are unable to see eachother for a majority of the time because of the war. The scenes have a lot more depth because of that I feel.

The scenes where they are separated, but thinking of each other is good.
I don't think the charisma is very strong, but I guess it's believable.

Ogreed. *Waits to see if anyone gets the reference*

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That gives me a little more respect for the guy, but if he wasn't up for playing the part of the mopey bitch once he found out that's what George Lucas wanted, he should have let someone else do it.

A paycheck is a paycheck at the end of the day.
And it FUCKING STAR WARS nobody who is smart passes up that chance.

Hayden Christensen sucking in most of the prequels is the fault of the director and the script, not the actor himself.

It's pretty known amongst film junkies that Lucas is a shitty character director.

Also it seems like Rahm Koda has been pretty thoroughly vanquished. Next fight?

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A paycheck is a paycheck at the end of the day.
And it FUCKING STAR WARS nobody who is smart passes up that chance.

Hayden Christensen sucking in most of the prequels is the fault of the director and the script, not the actor himself.

It's pretty known amongst film junkies that Lucas is a shitty character director.

Also it seems like Rahm Koda has been pretty thoroughly vanquished. Next fight?

Who is a good character director? Tarentino? Michael Bay?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

So, I wonder how Abrams feels, knowing he's got a Deathstar-sized gun to his head? Do you think he'll learn the lessons from 1-3? I won't even give them Roman numerals...the Romans were too badass to deserve that. Let me just fire off some of my favorite parts of that, just for gits and shiggles:

[*]Killing off one of the best actors you had available to you in the first film
[*]Midichlorians
Joke's on you, midichlorians had been there since 1977.
[*]Forgetting to give Young Annie an acting coach
[*]Bigoted ethnic stereotypes that would leave the guy who directed 'Birth of a Nation' saying "Not cool, man"
[*]Deus Ex Clone-ica
[*]Topical political statements that will lose their power over the years as people forget who Bush was.
[*]NO! NOOO! YOOOO WEEEL DAHYEEE! (Seriously? Palps was my favorite before that happened...)
This is actually a very real issue. Contrast this to the palpatine who snapped two necks without batting an eyelash or breaking stride in the cartoon clone wars.
[*]3-D Jumping Bean Yoda instead of practical effects. (Hell, he was still PE in Ep.1)
CG was not the problem. Yoda's high octane balls to the walls fighting was.
[*]Hayden Satanensen. Christ had nothing to do with that.
Refer to my earlier statement

Just for some perspective...

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

It's pretty known amongst film junkies that Lucas is a shitty character director.

Also it seems like Rahm Koda has been pretty thoroughly vanquished. Next fight?

Who is a good character director? Tarentino? Michael Bay?

Tarantino. Kubrick. Eastwood. Aronofsky. The Cohen Brothers. Haneke. Mother fucking Haneke. Go watch Amour. Go watch it right now.

[Idzequitch]

Also it seems like Rahm Koda has been pretty thoroughly vanquished. Next fight?

Plo Koon vs Kit Fisto? I know they're on the same side, but if they were to battle each other for whatever reason, it would be interesting.

[Creepoc Infinite]

Also it seems like Rahm Koda has been pretty thoroughly vanquished. Next fight?

Plo Koon vs Kit Fisto? I know they're on the same side, but if they were to battle each other for whatever reason, it would be interesting.

What about Darth Sidious vs. Mace Windu
Oh yeah that already happened and the results were shocking

[Bearon]

I'll put up the next suggestions today. :5