Star Wars: Debate Thread

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Well then. It's been a long time since I watched the prequels, and when I did watch them I was about twelve. I suppose that watching the movies at that age, or without the viewpoint of a critic, allows one to take a more positive opinion of them (which I have overall). Then again, the Battle of Coruscant seems to have been poorly designed, even with the EU explanation that the Home Fleet had been diverted elsewhere by the CIS.

The only quality movie episode 3.
With a couple of parts in the previous two films that stand out

Yeah, Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were pretty forgettable.

[Spoder]

The only quality movie episode 3.
With a couple of parts in the previous two films that stand out

Yeah, Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were pretty forgettable.

Not as forgettable as Episode III.

That movie was an exercise in CGI as opposed to quality filmmaking.

[Creepoc Infinite]

Yeah, Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were pretty forgettable.

Not as forgettable as Episode III.

That movie was an exercise in CGI as opposed to quality filmmaking.

The CGI is pretty good in the prequels. The original trilogy was kept back from creating massive wondrous fantastical worlds by the practical effects of the day.

Besides palpatine is fucking awesome in those movies. Especially episode 3

[Spoder]

Not as forgettable as Episode III.

That movie was an exercise in CGI as opposed to quality filmmaking.

The CGI is pretty good in the prequels. The original trilogy was kept back from creating massive wondrous fantastical worlds by the practical effects of the day.

Besides palpatine is fucking awesome in those movies. Especially episode 3

Palpatine is boring as fuck.

[Creepoc Infinite]

The CGI is pretty good in the prequels. The original trilogy was kept back from creating massive wondrous fantastical worlds by the practical effects of the day.

Besides palpatine is fucking awesome in those movies. Especially episode 3

Palpatine is boring as fuck.

Whatever, now I know you're not serious.
If you read Darth Plagueis (the book) it adds a lot more depth to the prequel movies.

[Bearon]

Episode III in my opinion is the best because of multiple factors.
Episode I is pretty good if you don't take it seriously just because it's a lot of fun.
Episode II is shit except for the parts with Ewan McGregor's Obi Wan and the duel scene.

[Creepoc Infinite]

Episode III in my opinion is the best because of multiple factors.
Episode I is pretty good if you don't take it seriously just because it's a lot of fun.
Episode II is shit except for the parts with Ewan McGregor's Obi Wan and the duel scene.

Episode 1 has a great light saber duel that is so dynamic in comparison to two old guys crossing blades like in episode 4.
Darth maul part.

Episode 2 a almost completely forgettable. The best parts are dooku and Jango Fett.

[Bearon]

Episode III in my opinion is the best because of multiple factors.
Episode I is pretty good if you don't take it seriously just because it's a lot of fun.
Episode II is shit except for the parts with Ewan McGregor's Obi Wan and the duel scene.

Episode 1 has a great light saber duel that is so dynamic in comparison to two old guys crossing blades like in episode 4.
Darth maul part.

Episode 2 a almost completely forgettable. The best parts are dooku and Jango Fett.

Agreed. And that Obi Wan. :3

[Creepoc Infinite]

Episode 1 has a great light saber duel that is so dynamic in comparison to two old guys crossing blades like in episode 4.
Darth maul part.

Episode 2 a almost completely forgettable. The best parts are dooku and Jango Fett.

Agreed. And that Obi Wan. :3

Yup, the one good thing about the prequels is the good casting choices made for the roles.
Except for padme and young Anikan of course!

Hayden Christensen was a good choice wean mccgregor was a perfect choice.

Palpatine is perfect, qui gon jinn was good, darth maul was good, Jango Fett was good.
Overall the casting was great.

Dissapointingly it was screwed up big time by the directing and script?

[Bearon]

Agreed. And that Obi Wan. :3

Yup, the one good thing about the prequels is the good casting choices made for the roles.
Except for padme and young Anikan of course!

Hayden Christensen was a good choice wean mccgregor was a perfect choice.

Palpatine is perfect, qui gon jinn was good, darth maul was good, Jango Fett was good.
Overall the casting was great.

Dissapointingly it was screwed up big time by the directing and script?

Agreed though I don't think Hayden was right for the role in general.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Kenobi's sweet ass mullet was the best part of the entire trilogy.

[Jetan]

Please stop; you're going to give me a heart attack.

Okay, then please elaborate on what makes it bad.
Other than the shitty childish romance scenes between Anikan and padme. I already know that shit's bad.

Lasers. Need I say more? Seriously though, the battles are ridicilous, and the fact that they suddenly forgot what made the universe feel so alive, the rust and dust, and went for the shinier-than-thou aestethic sucks big time.

[Eastern Equestria]

It's at least better than episode 1 And episode 2 combined three times over.

Please stop; you're going to give me a heart attack.

Well he's sort of right. Episode III was more watchable than episodes I&II. But that's not saying much.......

[Bearon]

Please stop; you're going to give me a heart attack.

Well he's sort of right. Episode III was more watchable than episodes I&II. But that's not saying much.......

May I just say. Your sig is amazing.

[Eastern Equestria]

Well he's sort of right. Episode III was more watchable than episodes I&II. But that's not saying much.......

May I just say. Your sig is amazing.

Muchas gracias, compadre.

[Creepoc Infinite]

Please stop; you're going to give me a heart attack.

Well he's sort of right. Episode III was more watchable than episodes I&II. But that's not saying much.......

You're damn right it was.
Significantly moreso.
Episode 3 has waaaay more watchable and memorable content in the film.
Palpatine, Greivous, the fall of anikan, order 66, and pretty much everything else other than the sometimes hokey dialogue and the scenes with anikan and padme being all lovey dovey.

[Idzequitch]

Everybody hates the Prequels and I don't understand it. I loved each and every one of the Prequels, though there were things I wish were different.

Hayden Christensen: The. Biggest. Mistake. Dude can't act. *cue clip of Anakin saying "I hate sand"* My grandmother would have made a better Anakin than HC. He's the biggest problem I have with the Prequels.

Jar-Jar: Not everyone can be a badass. Grow up and deal with it. If one character (and a fairly minor one too) ruins Ep. I for you, than you're just nitpicking. There are as many clumsy, stupid people in a galaxy far, far away, as there are in our world. Deal with it.

Script: Admittedly, there were times when the dialogue felt a bit forced. In my honest opinion, most of the time, this happened when Anakin was involved. Again, if they had gotten a competent actor for Anakin, this would have been a lesser problem. Still a bit cheesy at times, sure, but cheesy isn't always a bad thing.

The Romance: This was done badly, and guess who's at fault? If you guessed Hayden Christensen, you win. The guy is like a male Kristen Stewart. He can't show emotion in his acting, and when he tries, it's obviously forced, and you have to resist the urge to laugh. Padme probably could have had a more fulfilling relationship with a bantha. And as much reason to fall in love with it too.

The Prequels have faults, I'm not denying it, but they were still entertaining movies, and in the end, that's really all that matters. Well, that and the money, but I'll not talk about that.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Hayden Christensen: The. Biggest. Mistake. Dude can't act. *cue clip of Anakin saying "I hate sand"* My grandmother would have made a better Anakin than HC. He's the biggest problem I have with the Prequels.

He's actually an okay enough actor. Additionally according to Jensaari(?) Hayden asked Lucas to rewrite annie as less of a mopey bitch but was shot down.

[Bearon]

Everybody hates the Prequels and I don't understand it. I loved each and every one of the Prequels, though there were things I wish were different.

Hayden Christensen: The. Biggest. Mistake. Dude can't act. *cue clip of Anakin saying "I hate sand"* My grandmother would have made a better Anakin than HC. He's the biggest problem I have with the Prequels.

Jar-Jar: Not everyone can be a badass. Grow up and deal with it. If one character (and a fairly minor one too) ruins Ep. I for you, than you're just nitpicking. There are as many clumsy, stupid people in a galaxy far, far away, as there are in our world. Deal with it.

Script: Admittedly, there were times when the dialogue felt a bit forced. In my honest opinion, most of the time, this happened when Anakin was involved. Again, if they had gotten a competent actor for Anakin, this would have been a lesser problem. Still a bit cheesy at times, sure, but cheesy isn't always a bad thing.

The Romance: This was done badly, and guess who's at fault? If you guessed Hayden Christensen, you win. The guy is like a male Kristen Stewart. He can't show emotion in his acting, and when he tries, it's obviously forced, and you have to resist the urge to laugh. Padme probably could have had a more fulfilling relationship with a bantha. And as much reason to fall in love with it too.

The Prequels have faults, I'm not denying it, but they were still entertaining movies, and in the end, that's really all that matters. Well, that and the money, but I'll not talk about that.

Agreed.

[Spoder]

I don't find Episode II at all entertaining.

Episode I and III have great lightsaber duels I suppose.

[Bearon]

I don't find Episode II at all entertaining.

Episode I and III have great lightsaber duels I suppose.

Well do what I do. Skip all the Anakin parts and only watch the awesome end of the movie and the Obi Wan parts.

[Idzequitch]

I don't find Episode II at all entertaining.

Episode I and III have great lightsaber duels I suppose.

Episode II is by far the worst movie of the series, I'll grant you that. It still entertained me, but it wasn't up to par by Star Wars standards.

[Idzequitch]

Hayden Christensen: The. Biggest. Mistake. Dude can't act. *cue clip of Anakin saying "I hate sand"* My grandmother would have made a better Anakin than HC. He's the biggest problem I have with the Prequels.

He's actually an okay enough actor. Additionally according to Jensaari(?) Hayden asked Lucas to rewrite annie as less of a mopey bitch but was shot down.

That gives me a little more respect for the guy, but if he wasn't up for playing the part of the mopey bitch once he found out that's what George Lucas wanted, he should have let someone else do it.

[Zakuvia]

So, I wonder how Abrams feels, knowing he's got a Deathstar-sized gun to his head? Do you think he'll learn the lessons from 1-3? I won't even give them Roman numerals...the Romans were too badass to deserve that. Let me just fire off some of my favorite parts of that, just for gits and shiggles:

[*]Killing off one of the best actors you had available to you in the first film
[*]Midichlorians
[*]Forgetting to give Young Annie an acting coach
[*]Bigoted ethnic stereotypes that would leave the guy who directed 'Birth of a Nation' saying "Not cool, man"
[*]Deus Ex Clone-ica
[*]Topical political statements that will lose their power over the years as people forget who Bush was.
[*]NO! NOOO! YOOOO WEEEL DAHYEEE! (Seriously? Palps was my favorite before that happened...)
[*]3-D Jumping Bean Yoda instead of practical effects. (Hell, he was still PE in Ep.1)
[*]Hayden Satanensen. Christ had nothing to do with that.

[Idzequitch]

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[*]Hayden Satanensen. Christ had nothing to do with that.

Oh my gosh. I'm dying of laughter.