Star Wars: Debate Thread

[Spoder]

I think he may be talking about the Vultar Cataclysm, which was an accident.

Something I don't know about? Do tell.

Some Dark Jedi flee Coruscant.

They turned on a superweapon called the "Cosmic Turbine". They done goofed, and the detonation destroys the entire star system and the dark jedi.

It causes the great sith war.

[Bearon]

Something I don't know about? Do tell.

Some Dark Jedi flee Coruscant.

They turned on a superweapon called the "Cosmic Turbine". They done goofed, and the detonation destroys the entire star system and the dark jedi.

It causes the great sith war.

Oh cool. I really need to learn more about the Ancient Sith in Star Wars.

[Spoder]

I'm pretty sure mind-wiping the Massassi is more impressive than mind-wiping a planet, considering they're on a lot more planets than one.

Can you explain the situation in which it happened or link a source to it?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Exar_Kun

Best I can do when on a school computer, unfortunately.

[The Orson Empire]

Some Dark Jedi flee Coruscant.

They turned on a superweapon called the "Cosmic Turbine". They done goofed, and the detonation destroys the entire star system and the dark jedi.

It causes the great sith war.

Oh cool. I really need to learn more about the Ancient Sith in Star Wars.

It is extraordinarily interesting to learn about.

[United States Kingdom]

Not Dooku, Palpatine.

Exar Kun drained the life force from an entire fucking race.

Even as a spirit, he still kicked ass.


Revan had precognition. He killed Mandalore the Ultimate in single combat.

Kreia claims looking at Revan was like staring into the heart of the force.

He knew both light and dark.


He had farsight. He burned Darth Nyriss into ash by redirecting her own sith lightning.

He commanded an entire empire from the front lines.

And who is to say Palpatine never heard Precogniation. Palpatine mastered all lightsaber forms to their highest levels. One of you stated that I read about Exar Kun. I know he is a user of Form IV: Niman and Palpatine used that, including its variant Jar'Kai duel blade fencing and was a master at it(watch Palpatine vs Darth Maul and Savage Opress who are impressive in their own right) Palpatine was able to use force stealth to hide from the entire Jedi Fucking Order! No one saw that he was Darth Sidious until he choose to reveal himself and he did that for DECADES. I want to see Revan do that.

Palpatine also had far sight as well and Mandalore the Ultimate didn't have force abilities so he doesn't count and Revan being a force sensitive could have used force augmented strikes to take down Mandalore the Ultimate.

He doesn't know the light and the dark, he had been a Jedi and a Sith Lord, nothing else. You also have to consider the fact that their were no Massasi during Palpatine's time. PS, Palpatine had the power to drain planets with force storm, PLANETS!

[Spoder]

Planets.

An entire race.

An entire race > 1 planet


You don't much about Mandalore the Ultimate, do you? Guy's called "Ultimate" for a bloody reason.

Revan didn't need to hide behind a mask to absolutely terrify the Jedi Order in a couple of short years, and drive them to the edge.

He became a Jedi master. He fought in the Mandalorian wars. Afterwars, he turned to the dark side. Went to the lost world.

Created a sith empire. Then, he studied under the jedi again.

He knew both the light and the dark.

[Spoder]

Oh cool. I really need to learn more about the Ancient Sith in Star Wars.

It is extraordinarily interesting to learn about.

And crucial for the purpose of this argument.

[Bearon]

Can you explain the situation in which it happened or link a source to it?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Exar_Kun

Best I can do when on a school computer, unfortunately.

You mean this statement right?

"Near the end of the Sith War, Kun's prowess in the dark side had reached esoteric levels, such as when he drained the life-force out of almost the entire Massassi race and when he abandoned his mortal body."

This is of course in reference to when he enslaved the population on Yavin IV am I correct?

[Bearon]

Oh cool. I really need to learn more about the Ancient Sith in Star Wars.

It is extraordinarily interesting to learn about.

It is and I'm glad Spod linked the site. I have a feeling I'm going to be spending a long time on this Wookipeedia.

It is extraordinarily interesting to learn about.

And crucial for the purpose of this argument.

It's definitely very important.

[Bearon]

Not Dooku, Palpatine.

Exar Kun drained the life force from an entire fucking race.

Even as a spirit, he still kicked ass.


Revan had precognition. He killed Mandalore the Ultimate in single combat.

Kreia claims looking at Revan was like staring into the heart of the force.

He knew both light and dark.


He had farsight. He burned Darth Nyriss into ash by redirecting her own sith lightning.

He commanded an entire empire from the front lines.

And who is to say Palpatine never heard Precogniation. Palpatine mastered all lightsaber forms to their highest levels. One of you stated that I read about Exar Kun. I know he is a user of Form IV: Niman and Palpatine used that, including its variant Jar'Kai duel blade fencing and was a master at it(watch Palpatine vs Darth Maul and Savage Opress who are impressive in their own right) Palpatine was able to use force stealth to hide from the entire Jedi Fucking Order! No one saw that he was Darth Sidious until he choose to reveal himself and he did that for DECADES. I want to see Revan do that.

Palpatine also had far sight as well and Mandalore the Ultimate didn't have force abilities so he doesn't count and Revan being a force sensitive could have used force augmented strikes to take down Mandalore the Ultimate.

He doesn't know the light and the dark, he had been a Jedi and a Sith Lord, nothing else. You also have to consider the fact that their were no Massasi during Palpatine's time. PS, Palpatine had the power to drain planets with force storm, PLANETS!

Actually not only force storms but also with his telepathy as displayed on Byss.

[United States Kingdom]

Planets.

An entire race.

An entire race > 1 planet


You don't much about Mandalore the Ultimate, do you? Guy's called "Ultimate" for a bloody reason.

Revan didn't need to hide behind a mask to absolutely terrify the Jedi Order in a couple of short years, and drive them to the edge.

He became a Jedi master. He fought in the Mandalorian wars. Afterwars, he turned to the dark side. Went to the lost world.

Created a sith empire. Then, he studied under the jedi again.

He knew both the light and the dark.

How many Purebloods were their at that time? I want to know because Purebloods are nearly extinct. You already stated that "he knew both the light and the dark". Palpatine created the most powerful Empire the galaxy had ever known and destroyed the Galactic Republic which existed for 24,000+ plus

[Bearon]

Planets.

An entire race.

An entire race > 1 planet


You don't much about Mandalore the Ultimate, do you? Guy's called "Ultimate" for a bloody reason.

Revan didn't need to hide behind a mask to absolutely terrify the Jedi Order in a couple of short years, and drive them to the edge.

He became a Jedi master. He fought in the Mandalorian wars. Afterwars, he turned to the dark side. Went to the lost world.

Created a sith empire. Then, he studied under the jedi again.

He knew both the light and the dark.

Well for the race planet argument that's debatable but Exar Kun is much more powerful then I gave him credit for telepathically I think.


Well it is just a title but his feats show him to be an accomplished warrior.

While I agree Revan was charismatic and tactical genius Sidious's plot orchestrating the downfall of the Republic is on par or above Revan's own tactical prowess.

True.

True.

True.

[Spoder]

An Empire that was destroyed by a handful of ragtag terrorists.

[Korouse]

Mace Windu has a purple lightsaber, and purple is my favorite color


so I choose Mace Windu

[Spoder]

Planets.

An entire race.

An entire race > 1 planet


You don't much about Mandalore the Ultimate, do you? Guy's called "Ultimate" for a bloody reason.

Revan didn't need to hide behind a mask to absolutely terrify the Jedi Order in a couple of short years, and drive them to the edge.

He became a Jedi master. He fought in the Mandalorian wars. Afterwars, he turned to the dark side. Went to the lost world.

Created a sith empire. Then, he studied under the jedi again.

He knew both the light and the dark.

How many Purebloods were their at that time? I want to know because Purebloods are nearly extinct. You already stated that "he knew both the light and the dark". Palpatine created the most powerful Empire the galaxy had ever known and destroyed the Galactic Republic which existed for 24,000+ plus

I guarantee they were already extinct.

[Bearon]

An Empire that was destroyed by a handful of ragtag terrorists.

Well the Empire was indeed powerful at its peak probably the most powerful Empire in Galactic History and Luke Skywalker destroying Palpatine for the first time was what really caused the fall of the Empire as he had tied his very will to it.

[Bearon]

Mace Windu has a purple lightsaber, and purple is my favorite color


so I choose Mace Windu

That's not very good logic I must say. :/

[Bearon]

How many Purebloods were their at that time? I want to know because Purebloods are nearly extinct. You already stated that "he knew both the light and the dark". Palpatine created the most powerful Empire the galaxy had ever known and destroyed the Galactic Republic which existed for 24,000+ plus

I guarantee they were already extinct.

The pure bloods or the Massassi?

[Spoder]

An Empire that was destroyed by a handful of ragtag terrorists.

Well the Empire was indeed powerful at its peak probably the most powerful Empire in Galactic History and Luke Skywalker destroying Palpatine for the first time was what really caused the fall of the Empire as he had died his very will to it.

Exactly.

Palpatine was the kingpin of the sith empire. Without him, the empire faded away into a wimpy remnant.

When Revan disappeared, another took his place.

[Bearon]

Well the Empire was indeed powerful at its peak probably the most powerful Empire in Galactic History and Luke Skywalker destroying Palpatine for the first time was what really caused the fall of the Empire as he had died his very will to it.

Exactly.

Palpatine was the kingpin of the sith empire. Without him, the empire faded away into a wimpy remnant.

When Revan disappeared, another took his place.

Well likely the same thing would have happened if Darth Vader had survived and remained on the Dark Side. In essence I'm not arguing which faction was stronger but who was personally stronger.

[United States Kingdom]

I guarantee they were already extinct.

The pure bloods or the Massassi?

Massassi are a sub species of Pureblood are they not?

[United States Kingdom]

Well the Empire was indeed powerful at its peak probably the most powerful Empire in Galactic History and Luke Skywalker destroying Palpatine for the first time was what really caused the fall of the Empire as he had died his very will to it.

Exactly.

Palpatine was the kingpin of the sith empire. Without him, the empire faded away into a wimpy remnant.

When Revan disappeared, another took his place.

You mean Darth Malak who had to resort to being a pussy and betraying Revan in another ship than fighting Revan head on?

[Spoder]

Exactly.

Palpatine was the kingpin of the sith empire. Without him, the empire faded away into a wimpy remnant.

When Revan disappeared, another took his place.

Well likely the same thing would have happened if Darth Vader had survived and remained on the Dark Side. In essence I'm not arguing which faction was stronger but who was personally stronger.

Revan's system ensured powerful enough underlings for his empire to survive.

Sidious basically took the rule of two and added a bunch of blaster firing soldiers, and a few acolytes.

[United States Kingdom]

Well the Empire was indeed powerful at its peak probably the most powerful Empire in Galactic History and Luke Skywalker destroying Palpatine for the first time was what really caused the fall of the Empire as he had died his very will to it.

Exactly.

Palpatine was the kingpin of the sith empire. Without him, the empire faded away into a wimpy remnant.

When Revan disappeared, another took his place.

By the way the Empire survived. You should read the Dark Empire Arc. Palpatine survived the Death Star. Also the Imperial Remnant was still a powerhouse in those times and it was what was left of the Galactic Empire

[Spoder]

Exactly.

Palpatine was the kingpin of the sith empire. Without him, the empire faded away into a wimpy remnant.

When Revan disappeared, another took his place.

You mean Darth Malak who had to resort to being a pussy and betraying Revan in another ship than fighting Revan head on?

That doesn't help your argument at all.

The fact that his own apprentice, who was also utilizing the power of the Star Forge had to resort to underhanded tactics (and still failed) only strengthens my argument.