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Postby Patridam » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:08 pm

Ximea wrote:Google wants to go back to the moon, but not even they are safe from poni.


Is there something I'm supposed to be seeing?
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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:09 pm

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Postby Olthar » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:18 pm

Patridam wrote:Oh and here's Karen exemplifying both taconess and ditziness.

And what use would she be to them? She has no relevant powers or abilities that would prove useful to their goals. She's just food like the others.


Well, Tirek didn't need Discord; what he needed was for Discord not to be helping the people he was up against.

The Dazzlings couldn't have known beforehand, but without Sunset Shimmer's help to the mane six the evil plan would've gone succeeded; Sunset stopped the mane six from splitting via argument, and helped them in the finale.

The problem, though, was that Discord was easier to turn. He hadn't fully become good (and still hasn't). He sort of missed being bad. Meanwhile, Sunset had changed so much that she loathed who she used to be. An attempt to turn her would have been much less successful and might have tipped their hand too early. As it stood, Sunset only figured out their plan when it was almost too late, but such a blatant attempt to break the group apart may have led her to realize their goal sooner and, thus, more easily put a stop to it. Trying to seduce Sunset to the dark side would have been an unnecessary risk.

Also, with Tirek and Discord, there was no risk at all. Everyone already knew Tirek's plan. Even if he had failed to turn Discord, it wouldn't have hurt him any worse. Trying to turn Discord could only benefit him.
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Postby Ximea » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:26 pm

Patridam wrote:
Ximea wrote:Google wants to go back to the moon, but not even they are safe from poni.


Is there something I'm supposed to be seeing?

Watch for at least a few seconds, keeping your eye on the center of the circle. Unless something went wrong, you should be starting more than 7 minutes in, so just let it run from there.
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Postby Ximea » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:29 pm

Olthar wrote:
Patridam wrote:Oh and here's Karen exemplifying both taconess and ditziness.



Well, Tirek didn't need Discord; what he needed was for Discord not to be helping the people he was up against.

The Dazzlings couldn't have known beforehand, but without Sunset Shimmer's help to the mane six the evil plan would've gone succeeded; Sunset stopped the mane six from splitting via argument, and helped them in the finale.

The problem, though, was that Discord was easier to turn. He hadn't fully become good (and still hasn't). He sort of missed being bad. Meanwhile, Sunset had changed so much that she loathed who she used to be. An attempt to turn her would have been much less successful and might have tipped their hand too early. As it stood, Sunset only figured out their plan when it was almost too late, but such a blatant attempt to break the group apart may have led her to realize their goal sooner and, thus, more easily put a stop to it. Trying to seduce Sunset to the dark side would have been an unnecessary risk.

Also, with Tirek and Discord, there was no risk at all. Everyone already knew Tirek's plan. Even if he had failed to turn Discord, it wouldn't have hurt him any worse. Trying to turn Discord could only benefit him.

I think failing to turn Discord would've been fatal to his plan. He was still pretty weak when Discord found him.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:40 pm

Ximea wrote:
Olthar wrote:The problem, though, was that Discord was easier to turn. He hadn't fully become good (and still hasn't). He sort of missed being bad. Meanwhile, Sunset had changed so much that she loathed who she used to be. An attempt to turn her would have been much less successful and might have tipped their hand too early. As it stood, Sunset only figured out their plan when it was almost too late, but such a blatant attempt to break the group apart may have led her to realize their goal sooner and, thus, more easily put a stop to it. Trying to seduce Sunset to the dark side would have been an unnecessary risk.

Also, with Tirek and Discord, there was no risk at all. Everyone already knew Tirek's plan. Even if he had failed to turn Discord, it wouldn't have hurt him any worse. Trying to turn Discord could only benefit him.

I think failing to turn Discord would've been fatal to his plan. He was still pretty weak when Discord found him.

Yes, but no worse than if he had never tried.
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:40 pm

Patridam wrote:
Ximea wrote:Google wants to go back to the moon, but not even they are safe from poni.


Is there something I'm supposed to be seeing?


There's a very subtle Luna reference at 7 minutes and 29 seconds.

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Postby Slorch » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:52 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
Patridam wrote:
Is there something I'm supposed to be seeing?


There's a very subtle Luna reference at 7 minutes and 29 seconds.


Can't see it. Unless it's the black sploches on the moon.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:09 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Yes.

Pretty obviously put there as a gag.
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Postby Sinovet » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:12 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Yes.

Pretty obviously put there as a gag.

Still funny though.

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Postby Ximea » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:15 pm

Olthar wrote:
Ximea wrote:I think failing to turn Discord would've been fatal to his plan. He was still pretty weak when Discord found him.

Yes, but no worse than if he had never tried.

Yes, worse, because Discord was there to stop him. His options at that point were flip Discord or go back to Tartarus.
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There's a very subtle Luna reference at 7 minutes and 29 seconds.


Can't see it. Unless it's the black sploches on the moon.

Take a look at this image. Dead center is the moon as it appears in the first episode of the first season.
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Postby Slorch » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:18 pm

Slorch wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:
There's a very subtle Luna reference at 7 minutes and 29 seconds.


Can't see it. Unless it's the black sploches on the moon.



Edit: I see it now. Mare in the moon...ha ha ha?
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Postby Slorch » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:18 pm

Ximea wrote:
Olthar wrote: Yes, but no worse than if he had never tried.

Yes, worse, because Discord was there to stop him. His options at that point were flip Discord or go back to Tartarus.
Slorch wrote:
Can't see it. Unless it's the black sploches on the moon.

Take a look at this image. Dead center is the moon as it appears in the first episode of the first season.


I see it and feel like and idiot for not seeing it sooner.
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Postby Ximea » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:19 pm

Slorch wrote:
Slorch wrote:
Can't see it. Unless it's the black sploches on the moon.



Edit: I see it now. Mare in the moon...ha ha ha?

After all of that effort to explain it, it doesn't seem like much. I guess I'm just pleased when pony makes its way into high-visibility stuff like a video of Google saying that we need to go back to the moon and you can't stop us because we're Google.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:28 pm

Ximea wrote:
Olthar wrote: Yes, but no worse than if he had never tried.

Yes, worse, because Discord was there to stop him. His options at that point were flip Discord or go back to Tartarus.

Lolwat? Discord was there to stop Tirek. If Tirek did nothing, his plan would have failed. If he tried to turn Discord and failed, his plan would have failed. The latter is not worse than the former, and I have no idea how you can claim otherwise.
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Postby Firsthome » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:34 pm

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What are you implying? :p

I'm stating that he was an overrated hack of a writer, and his books sucked.

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Postby Sinovet » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:36 pm

Firsthome wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I'm stating that he was an overrated hack of a writer, and his books sucked.

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No need to be so harsh

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Postby Firsthome » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:37 pm

Immoren wrote:
I should make plant that grows both potatoes and tomatoes.
It would be efficient and cheap.



Someone tried.

It kills itself due to overuse of energy

the only living ones produced no fruit.

Grafting mothafuckas :P


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I did not know of the existence of Pomatoes.

the when i read about the grafting of Taters and Tomaters, the paper was on things that had happened before the 1940's
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Postby Ximea » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:37 pm

Olthar wrote:
Ximea wrote:Yes, worse, because Discord was there to stop him. His options at that point were flip Discord or go back to Tartarus.

Lolwat? Discord was there to stop Tirek. If Tirek did nothing, his plan would have failed. If he tried to turn Discord and failed, his plan would have failed. The latter is not worse than the former, and I have no idea how you can claim otherwise.

...I'm confused. It now appears that we're saying the same thing. Let me start over.

I had assumed you were saying that, once Discord arrived, Tirek could either turn Discord and gain a powerful ally, or fail to turn Discord and proceed with his plan, no better off and no worse off than if DIscord had never found him at all. My interpretation came from this line (my emphasis):
Also, with Tirek and Discord, there was no risk at all. Everyone already knew Tirek's plan. Even if he had failed to turn Discord, it wouldn't have hurt him any worse. Trying to turn Discord could only benefit him.


I was saying, and now I think I understand that you also meant, that failing to turn Discord would have resulted in mission failure, and that it was essential to try.
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Postby Firsthome » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:44 pm

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Firsthome wrote:I hate you

No need to be so harsh


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Postby Ximea » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:51 pm

Firsthome wrote:
Sinovet wrote:No need to be so harsh


I was almost Hospitalized for Suicidal and Homicidal ideation. I really don't Care.
He hates Tolkien.
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If the deer are going to = elves than does that mean the reindeer will = drow/dark elves? And odes that in turn mean I should keep my eye out for some reindeer renegade dual wielding scimitars somehow... After all if the comics are going to throw out so many shout outs I wouldn't put it passed them to go further.
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Postby Sinovet » Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:09 pm

Firsthome wrote:
Sinovet wrote:No need to be so harsh


I was almost Hospitalized for Suicidal and Homicidal ideation. I really don't Care.
He hates Tolkien.
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Take a chill pill.

Plenty of people hate Asimov, but I don't hate them.

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Postby Patridam » Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:15 pm

Okay, I see the mare-in-the moon bit now.

Anyway, I have now solidified in my headcanon that the Dazzlings of Rainbow Rocks are a purposeful reference to the Plastics of Mean Girls, independently of the merit of a Sunset-gone-back-evil plot.

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