The Doctor Who Discussion Thread and Fan Club

[The Corparation]

No, just Moffat. I'm pretty sure he's some unspeakable abomination from the dawn of time who was summoned by Davies to make the show popular. Moffat, of course, broke free of his bindings and took over the show to better terrify children.

Or he just likes the show a lot, and has since he was a child.

But that means accepting that not just Tennant and Moffat, but a good few generations of the entire UK are shithouse rat crazy.

I think the reason Dr Who is so great is that a lot of the people making it are the grownup versions of the criminally insane fan boys that grew up watching it. I mean seriosuly, take Tennant literally almost all he ever wrote about in school was about Dr Who. And he became an actor specifically so he could play the Doctor. Oh and he married the daughter of another actor that had previously played the Doctor.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Or he just likes the show a lot, and has since he was a child.

But that means accepting that not just Tennant and Moffat, but a good few generations of the entire UK are shithouse rat crazy.

I think the reason Dr Who is so great is that a lot of the people making it are the grownup versions of the criminally insane fan boys that grew up watching it. I mean seriosuly, take Tennant literally almost all he ever wrote about in school was about Dr Who. And he became an actor specifically so he could play the Doctor. Oh and he married the daughter of another actor that had previously played the Doctor.

Smith is the only actor since Hartnell who was not an avid fan before getting the role, to my knowledge.

And he's gained a bit of appreciation since.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Or he just likes the show a lot, and has since he was a child.

But that means accepting that not just Tennant and Moffat, but a good few generations of the entire UK are shithouse rat crazy.

I think the reason Dr Who is so great is that a lot of the people making it are the grownup versions of the criminally insane fan boys that grew up watching it. I mean seriosuly, take Tennant literally almost all he ever wrote about in school was about Dr Who. And he became an actor specifically so he could play the Doctor. Oh and he married the daughter of another actor that had previously played the Doctor.

And just in case it hasn't been pointed out enough for years now (and possibly in this thread, since I haven't checked back as much as I probably should), a woman who played the character of The Doctor's cloned "daughter" in an episode. And to top it off, they had a daughter together. That's right. He's such a fanboy that he played The Doctor, and had The Doctor's daughter with the daughter of The Doctor.

[JuNii]

Re watching journey's end... Daley Caan's final prophecy about the most faithful companion dying was not about Donna noble, but Amy Pond. Think about, she is the only companion that waited years for the doctor, her faith and belief in the doctor was brought up many times during her run... I really think that she is gone, no clever tricks to bring her back...


Either that or it was a prediction about Elizabeth Sladen's death...

[Dimoniquid]

Re watching journey's end... Daley Caan's final prophecy about the most faithful companion dying was not about Donna noble, but Amy Pond. Think about, she is the only companion that waited years for the doctor, her faith and belief in the doctor was brought up many times during her run... I really think that she is gone, no clever tricks to bring her back...


Either that or it was a prediction about Elizabeth Sladen's death...

Still not over it!

[Dimoniquid]

I was looking around, and I saw this.

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juic ... 06829.html

Come on, Baker! Really? YOU WERE THE DOCTOR, FFS

[Serrland]

I was looking around, and I saw this.

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juic ... 06829.html

Come on, Baker! Really? YOU WERE THE DOCTOR, FFS

In fairness, that is Baker the Lesser. If it was Tom Baker, I'd be a bit more upset. But Colin Baker ranks up there as one of my least favorite Doctors...

[Nationstatelandsville]

I was looking around, and I saw this.

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juic ... 06829.html

Come on, Baker! Really? YOU WERE THE DOCTOR, FFS

In fairness, that is Baker the Lesser. If it was Tom Baker, I'd be a bit more upset. But Colin Baker ranks up there as one of my least favorite Doctors...

He was still the Doctor, though, and any fuck-ups with his era were purely Turner's fault.

[DesAnges]

In fairness, that is Baker the Lesser. If it was Tom Baker, I'd be a bit more upset. But Colin Baker ranks up there as one of my least favorite Doctors...

He was still the Doctor, though, and any fuck-ups with his era were purely Turner's fault.

Honestly, I did like both Bakers. Tom is my favourite ever Doctor, but Colin takes joint third with Ecclestone. And I'm unrepentant about that.

[Johz]

"But they've conquered stairs," you say, "How are we ever going to triumph against them now?"

Well fear not, because Daleks are susceptible to one other thing: Wonky Wheel Syndrome

[Nationstatelandsville]

So, it's been confirmed that Gaiman is doing the Cybermen, and he seems to be taking notes from the Classic era.

And I'm very excited about this. The classic Cybermen are my favorite Who villains.

[The Corparation]

So, it's been confirmed that Gaiman is doing the Cybermen, and he seems to be taking notes from the Classic era.

And I'm very excited about this. The classic Cybermen are my favorite Who villains.

About damn time. They haven't done enough with the Cybermen lately.

[Nationstatelandsville]

So, it's been confirmed that Gaiman is doing the Cybermen, and he seems to be taking notes from the Classic era.

And I'm very excited about this. The classic Cybermen are my favorite Who villains.

About damn time. They haven't done enough with the Cybermen lately.

The Cybermen have been horrendous in the revival.

It really says something that their shining moment was getting their ass kicked by a nurse in a Halloween costume.

[The Corparation]

About damn time. They haven't done enough with the Cybermen lately.

The Cybermen have been horrendous in the revival.

It really says something that their shining moment was getting their ass kicked by a nurse in a Halloween costume.

Yeah as awesome as that scene was, everything else they've done has been sub par. Although the Dalek-Cybermen showdown is eaisly one of my favorite moments in the series.

[Krytenia]

In fairness, that is Baker the Lesser. If it was Tom Baker, I'd be a bit more upset. But Colin Baker ranks up there as one of my least favorite Doctors...

He was still the Doctor, though, and any fuck-ups with his era were purely Turner's fault.

I think the best thing to say about Colin Baker is that he was dealt a horrible hand and bluffed it masterfully.

[Nationstatelandsville]

The Cybermen have been horrendous in the revival.

It really says something that their shining moment was getting their ass kicked by a nurse in a Halloween costume.

Yeah as awesome as that scene was, everything else they've done has been sub par. Although the Dalek-Cybermen showdown is eaisly one of my favorite moments in the series.

It was funny, but I wasn't fond of those episodes.

I like the concept of Daleks vs. Cybermen, but it seemed like the Cybermen were just thrown in for that moment. They didn't do anything beyond that. You can't really fit a big plot like that in the hour format, or even a two-parter. You either need to strech it out across an entire series, like Moffat did with Series 6, or return to serial format, which I think the show should do, as unlikely as that is. It just feels too rushed, too short. Each episode loses their meaning. Who gives a damn about the Midnight Entity? You could skip that episode entirely and miss out on that amazing concept which is never mentioned again.

[The Corparation]

Yeah as awesome as that scene was, everything else they've done has been sub par. Although the Dalek-Cybermen showdown is eaisly one of my favorite moments in the series.

It was funny, but I wasn't fond of those episodes.

I like the concept of Daleks vs. Cybermen, but it seemed like the Cybermen were just thrown in for that moment. They didn't do anything beyond that. You can't really fit a big plot like that in the hour format, or even a two-parter. You either need to strech it out across an entire series, like Moffat did with Series 6, or return to serial format, which I think the show should do, as unlikely as that is. It just feels too rushed, too short. Each episode loses their meaning. Who gives a damn about the Midnight Entity? You could skip that episode entirely and miss out on that amazing concept which is never mentioned again.

Yeah that episode really lacked anything beyond that showdown of any worth. So much potential that they didn't really use. Honestly I totally agree we need a return to a serial format. Would be a good way to cram more story into the series. They've left a ton of things undeveloped. Like the Power of Three, they failed to do anything worthwhile with UNIT (Seriously they did jackshit in the episode), and the ending was rushed and as such completely wasted an opportunity to properly introduce the Shakri. Honestly the Shakri have potential but they failed to do anything.

[Nationstatelandsville]

It was funny, but I wasn't fond of those episodes.

I like the concept of Daleks vs. Cybermen, but it seemed like the Cybermen were just thrown in for that moment. They didn't do anything beyond that. You can't really fit a big plot like that in the hour format, or even a two-parter. You either need to strech it out across an entire series, like Moffat did with Series 6, or return to serial format, which I think the show should do, as unlikely as that is. It just feels too rushed, too short. Each episode loses their meaning. Who gives a damn about the Midnight Entity? You could skip that episode entirely and miss out on that amazing concept which is never mentioned again.

Yeah that episode really lacked anything beyond that showdown of any worth. So much potential that they didn't really use. Honestly I totally agree we need a return to a serial format. Would be a good way to cram more story into the series. They've left a ton of things undeveloped. Like the Power of Three, they failed to do anything worthwhile with UNIT (Seriously they did jackshit in the episode), and the ending was rushed and as such completely wasted an opportunity to properly introduce the Shakri. Honestly the Shakri have potential but they failed to do anything.

The Shakri sounds like they could have been something memorable, something interesting, a new recurring villain.

And then the sonic screwdriver happened.

[Aqizithiuda]

I'd happily welcome a return to the serial format, and possibly more opportunities for villains to become recurring.

[Eastfield Lodge]

Yeah as awesome as that scene was, everything else they've done has been sub par. Although the Dalek-Cybermen showdown is eaisly one of my favorite moments in the series.

It was funny, but I wasn't fond of those episodes.

I like the concept of Daleks vs. Cybermen, but it seemed like the Cybermen were just thrown in for that moment. They didn't do anything beyond that. You can't really fit a big plot like that in the hour format, or even a two-parter. You either need to strech it out across an entire series, like Moffat did with Series 6, or return to serial format, which I think the show should do, as unlikely as that is. It just feels too rushed, too short. Each episode loses their meaning. Who gives a damn about the Midnight Entity? You could skip that episode entirely and miss out on that amazing concept which is never mentioned again.

I think Midnight was just set up for Turn Left: a pretty much Doctor-only episode followed by an almost Donna-only episode.

[Johz]

Yeah as awesome as that scene was, everything else they've done has been sub par. Although the Dalek-Cybermen showdown is eaisly one of my favorite moments in the series.

It was funny, but I wasn't fond of those episodes.

I like the concept of Daleks vs. Cybermen, but it seemed like the Cybermen were just thrown in for that moment. They didn't do anything beyond that. You can't really fit a big plot like that in the hour format, or even a two-parter. You either need to strech it out across an entire series, like Moffat did with Series 6, or return to serial format, which I think the show should do, as unlikely as that is. It just feels too rushed, too short. Each episode loses their meaning. Who gives a damn about the Midnight Entity? You could skip that episode entirely and miss out on that amazing concept which is never mentioned again.

I disagree about the Midnight Entity. I prefered that single episode format - I honestly think some of the best character episodes are the ones done with a relatively simple plot, and shot in such a way that the only thing the actors can do is act as if their lives depended on it. Had the Entity started popping up everywhere, I think it would have been a bit weird. They'd have had to set the whole episode up to make the Entity some sort of evil super-being, where actually it was a lot more animalistic than that.

[Nationstatelandsville]

It was funny, but I wasn't fond of those episodes.

I like the concept of Daleks vs. Cybermen, but it seemed like the Cybermen were just thrown in for that moment. They didn't do anything beyond that. You can't really fit a big plot like that in the hour format, or even a two-parter. You either need to strech it out across an entire series, like Moffat did with Series 6, or return to serial format, which I think the show should do, as unlikely as that is. It just feels too rushed, too short. Each episode loses their meaning. Who gives a damn about the Midnight Entity? You could skip that episode entirely and miss out on that amazing concept which is never mentioned again.

I disagree about the Midnight Entity. I prefered that single episode format - I honestly think some of the best character episodes are the ones done with a relatively simple plot, and shot in such a way that the only thing the actors can do is act as if their lives depended on it. Had the Entity started popping up everywhere, I think it would have been a bit weird. They'd have had to set the whole episode up to make the Entity some sort of evil super-being, where actually it was a lot more animalistic than that.

That was a bad example - the one-shot concepts (like the Midnight Entity and everything Moffat did before showrunning) might work best in one episode form, but we get, what? One or two of those a year? And then they're defeated by ass-pulls (besides the Angels in their first appearance and the Midnight Entity). I would rather get six quality serials (though, realistically, at least one would be shit, hopefully in a hilarious way) spanning five-or-so weeks (two and a half hours of content) than six or seven good episodes of the hour style (an hour of content). It's the same reason Sherlock is excellent (except for "The Blind Banker") - you have time to build up suspense.

[Aqizithiuda]

The new Cybermen.

Making the Cybermen scary again.

[The Corparation]

The new Cybermen.

Making the Cybermen scary again.

Excuse me for a sec while I slip out to England and steal one of those things. They look awesome.

[Aqizithiuda]

The new Cybermen.

Making the Cybermen scary again.

Excuse me for a sec while I slip out to England and steal one of those things. They look awesome.

I'm not 100% sure I like them yet. I probably won't know for sure until the actual episode.