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Central Kadigan
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Postby Central Kadigan » Sat May 18, 2013 2:39 pm

Just finished Season 5 - almost caught up! :D
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat May 18, 2013 2:40 pm

Where has this thread been all my life?
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Postby The Corparation » Sat May 18, 2013 2:40 pm

Central Kadigan wrote:Just finished Season 5 - almost caught up! :D

Not really you have 21 Seasons to go through and then 7 Series.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sat May 18, 2013 2:48 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:Where has this thread been all my life?

You didn't know it was here?
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat May 18, 2013 2:48 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:Where has this thread been all my life?

You didn't know it was here?


I sort of did, but I never really considered it.

Until now.
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Postby Conscentia » Sat May 18, 2013 2:50 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Central Kadigan wrote:Just finished Season 5 - almost caught up! :D

Not really you have 21 Seasons to go through and then 7 Series.

I think he's only watching the new ones.
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Postby The Corparation » Sat May 18, 2013 3:02 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Not really you have 21 Seasons to go through and then 7 Series.

I think he's only watching the new ones.

His loss.
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Postby Rohane Alista » Sat May 18, 2013 3:07 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Conscentia wrote:I think he's only watching the new ones.

His loss.

It's his loss, but it's not THAT huge a loss. Other than the 4th, a lot of the original doctors weren't as good, which is partially because special effects were terribad back then, and partially because old actors and writers had different ideas of what's appealing. It's possible to only watch the new series and still be a Whovian is my point.
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Postby The Floor Kippers » Sat May 18, 2013 3:10 pm

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The Corparation wrote:His loss.

Other than the 4th, a lot of the original doctors weren't as good

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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Sat May 18, 2013 3:11 pm

Rohane Alista wrote:
The Corparation wrote:His loss.

It's his loss, but it's not THAT huge a loss. Other than the 4th, a lot of the original doctors weren't as good, which is partially because special effects were terribad back then, and partially because old actors and writers had different ideas of what's appealing. It's possible to only watch the new series and still be a Whovian is my point.


And of course, roughly 200 hours (at a guess) of DW is a very big investment of time and money for people who just discovered the series. Especially since it's fairly easy to pick up the story, even if you miss some of the references to previous episodes.
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Postby Conscentia » Sat May 18, 2013 3:13 pm

The Floor Kippers wrote:
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Am I the only guy here who ranks 4 as his least favorite Doctor?

Tom Baker, least favourite?
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Postby The Corparation » Sat May 18, 2013 3:13 pm

Rohane Alista wrote:
The Corparation wrote:His loss.

It's his loss, but it's not THAT huge a loss. Other than the 4th, a lot of the original doctors weren't as good, which is partially because special effects were terribad back then, and partially because old actors and writers had different ideas of what's appealing. It's possible to only watch the new series and still be a Whovian is my point.

The special effects were what they could do with what they had. The special effects are secondary to the story. And the classic series stories as a rule are generally individually deeper and richer than most of the new stories. Most of this has to do with the loss of the serial format. And you can't be a Whovian from only watching the new series. Its just silly. You can't be part of the fan base of something and be ignorant and just uncaring about 40+ Years of it and still call yourself a proper fan.
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Postby Dheghoom » Sat May 18, 2013 3:18 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Floor Kippers wrote:
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Am I the only guy here who ranks 4 as his least favorite Doctor?

Tom Baker, least favourite?
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4 was my first Doctor. And favourite. 5 second, 11 third, 1 fourth, 9 fifth. And those are the only ones that I've seen... :P

Of course, being new to both the forum *and* this thread (where has this thread been all my life?) and expressing such a "radical" opinion as this, I'm probably gonna get lynched.
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Postby Kouralia » Sat May 18, 2013 3:26 pm

Is it just me, or was there a fetish for freaky mouths this season? :p

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat May 18, 2013 4:07 pm

I'm rewatching that episode.

I have to tell you, that was amazing.
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Postby The Corparation » Sat May 18, 2013 4:08 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'm rewatching that episode.

I have to tell you, that was amazing.

I want to becuase I know there must of been tons of little backgrounds things I missed, but I'm still in a state of recovery.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat May 18, 2013 4:19 pm

That was my single favorite episode of the Moffat/Smith era to date.

I had two ideas for Clara:

One, that she was Susan.

Two, that I would hate whatever Moffat came up with.

Moffat chose a third option, and it totally worked for me.

My wife and I were crying and cheering through the entire last fifteen minutes. And thank God Jenny and Strax survived (though I figured they would), since we're still holding out hope for a spinoff.
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Postby Dimoniquid » Sat May 18, 2013 4:23 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:That was my single favorite episode of the Moffat/Smith era to date.

I had two ideas for Clara:

One, that she was Susan.

Two, that I would hate whatever Moffat came up with.

Moffat chose a third option, and it totally worked for me.

My wife and I were crying and cheering through the entire last fifteen minutes. And thank God Jenny and Strax survived (though I figured they would), since we're still holding out hope for a spinoff.

I love Strax. He's my favourite character.

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Postby SquareDisc City » Sat May 18, 2013 4:23 pm

Felt like a lacklustre end to a lacklustre series to me. Compared to say the Pandorica/Big Bang 2 ending, or the 2 minutes past five one, this was weak, especially after how long Trenzalore was built up to.

The worst is that there just seem to be so many recycled ideas, not just in the episode but in the whole series. The companion being a mystery in some way, we had a lot of that with Amy Pond. Worlds vanishing, that just felt like a rehash of Big Bang Two. Clara
being duplicated across all of space and time is basically Bad Wolf but with a whole person not just a phrase.
Even the Whisper Men look too similar to the Silence I feel (though this at least may be significant).
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat May 18, 2013 4:25 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:That was my single favorite episode of the Moffat/Smith era to date.

I had two ideas for Clara:

One, that she was Susan.

Two, that I would hate whatever Moffat came up with.

Moffat chose a third option, and it totally worked for me.

My wife and I were crying and cheering through the entire last fifteen minutes. And thank God Jenny and Strax survived (though I figured they would), since we're still holding out hope for a spinoff.

I love Strax. He's my favourite character.

Jenny: It's beau-iful...
Strax: SHALL I DESTROY IT!?
Vastra: Shut up, Strax!


IKR? For me, he'd be the major selling point of a spinoff. Just the idea that he takes his weekends off in Glasgow, where people understand the value of a good brawl. It was even heartbreaking when he forgot due to the timey-wimey that Vastra was his friend.
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Postby Ende » Sat May 18, 2013 4:43 pm

MOFFAT

THAT IS NOT OKAY
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat May 18, 2013 4:52 pm

Ende wrote:MOFFAT

THAT IS NOT OKAY


You spelled "Awesome, you bastard" incorrectly.
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Postby Ende » Sat May 18, 2013 4:55 pm

SquareDisc City wrote:Felt like a lacklustre end to a lacklustre series to me. Compared to say the Pandorica/Big Bang 2 ending, or the 2 minutes past five one, this was weak, especially after how long Trenzalore was built up to.

The worst is that there just seem to be so many recycled ideas, not just in the episode but in the whole series. The companion being a mystery in some way, we had a lot of that with Amy Pond. Worlds vanishing, that just felt like a rehash of Big Bang Two. Clara
being duplicated across all of space and time is basically Bad Wolf but with a whole person not just a phrase.
Even the Whisper Men look too similar to the Silence I feel (though this at least may be significant).

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Postby Central Kadigan » Sat May 18, 2013 4:55 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Not really you have 21 Seasons to go through and then 7 Series.

I think he's only watching the new ones.

Yes, I started with the 9th because those are the ones that I have access to. But I haven't ruled out going back to the first run.
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Postby Ende » Sat May 18, 2013 4:55 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Ende wrote:MOFFAT

THAT IS NOT OKAY

You spelled "Awesome, you bastard" incorrectly.

It was utterly fantastic.

But November.
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