Punk Rock Discussion Thread

[Casita]

Checkout stuff from profane existence

And bands like:

Primate
Anti-cimex
Amebix
DOOM
Disrupt
Vomitus
Zouo
Bhopal
Raw Poison
Black Kronstadt
Iskra
Skitsystem
Martyrdod

I wouldn't call any of that metalcore, but crust punk is another metal+punk crossover genre.

Other good crust bands:
His Hero Is Gone
From Ashes Rise
Aus-Rotten
One Eyed-God Prophecy
Oroku
Severed Head of State
Tragedy (ex-HHIG, but more d-beat influenced)
Union of Uranus
World Burns To Death


There's also Shikabane, from Japan, they're like if emo, powerviolence and black metal had a love child.

crust,d-beat, grind, sludge are the only types that I know of that have a 'metal' sound, not sure what metalcore is XD

Gallhammer, Framtid and of course GISM are also great Japanese bands

[The Scientific States]

I'm generally not a punk rock fan, but I do like some quasi-punk bands, particularly early British punk bands like The Clash and The Ramones.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

crust,d-beat, grind, sludge are the only types that I know of that have a 'metal' sound, not sure what metalcore is XD

Not sure if trolling.

[The New Sea Territory]

A lot of kids these days don't understand that Punk is an ideology that goes beyond the studded jean jackets and back patches.

Also, Third-Wave Ska is nearly as bad as Nickelback.

Punk isn't an ideology.

[The New Sea Territory]

There's pop-punk that's poppy punk and there's "punk-pop" that's just straight up pop music pretending to be punk.

True. I feel that a lot of the pop punk bands forget the whole anti-corporation thing. I mean punk doesn't have just one sound, but amongst all the different styles, punk shares anti-coporation and subversive sentiments. Without such sentiments it's not really punk, so much as it is a novelty.

There are plenty of punk bands that are apolitical, thus not really anti-corporation, Such as the Ramones.

[The New Sea Territory]

Choking Victim, leftover crack

Probably the greatest mix ever. Both of those bands are a clusterfuck of black metal, ska and hardcore.

[The New Sea Territory]

crust,d-beat, grind, sludge are the only types that I know of that have a 'metal' sound, not sure what metalcore is XD

A lot of punk has metal influences. Black Flag was somewhat metal, while still hardcore. Also, Thrash. Metalcore is extreme metal (thrash, death and black) plus breakdowns.

Metal and Punk, post-1982, are inseparable. DRI and Suicidal Tendencies mixed them, and as I stated earlier, Black Flag. Metalcore, Crust and Grind took off in the late 80s.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

crust,d-beat, grind, sludge are the only types that I know of that have a 'metal' sound, not sure what metalcore is XD

A lot of punk has metal influences. Black Flag was somewhat metal, while still hardcore. Also, Thrash. Metalcore is extreme metal (thrash, death and black) plus breakdowns.

Metal and Punk, post-1982, are inseparable. DRI and Suicidal Tendencies mixed them, and as I stated earlier, Black Flag. Metalcore, Crust and Grind took off in the late 80s.

I'm pretty sure you're preaching to the choir.

[Casita]

True. I feel that a lot of the pop punk bands forget the whole anti-corporation thing. I mean punk doesn't have just one sound, but amongst all the different styles, punk shares anti-coporation and subversive sentiments. Without such sentiments it's not really punk, so much as it is a novelty.

There are plenty of punk bands that are apolitical, thus not really anti-corporation, Such as the Ramones.

Don't have to be political to be against corporations. It's the action of not having to answer to a major record company. One can still be a political and do just this. Quincy Punx is a great example amongst many apolitical bands that didn't go corporate.

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Seriously the bands I mentioned didn't belong with the definition of metalcore, so I don't know. I thought metalcore was just another name for the stuff we are all used to hearing.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Seriously the bands I mentioned didn't belong with the definition of metalcore, so I don't know. I thought metalcore was just another name for the stuff we are all used to hearing.

Usually in my experience metalcore refers to one specific type of metal+hardcore punk crossover and not to any of the others. Crust usually draws more on Discharge and less on American East Coast hardcore. Even crusty bands from New York tend to avoid NYHC influences. Beatdown riffs and chanted or shouted slogans show up more in metalcore than in other crossover styles.

If you listen to the metalcore bands I named and compare them to the crust bands we both named the differences should stand out.
Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. (something about being TRUE) Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjud-judjud.

[Casita]

Seriously the bands I mentioned didn't belong with the definition of metalcore, so I don't know. I thought metalcore was just another name for the stuff we are all used to hearing.

Usually in my experience metalcore refers to one specific type of metal+hardcore punk crossover and not to any of the others. Crust usually draws more on Discharge and less on American East Coast hardcore. Even crusty bands from New York tend to avoid NYHC influences. Beatdown riffs and chanted or shouted slogans show up more in metalcore than in other crossover styles.

If you listen to the metalcore bands I named and compare them to the crust bands we both named the differences should stand out.
Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. (something about being TRUE) Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjudjud-jiggidyjud. Judjud-judjud.

Ah, I see. I've been listening to this stuff for a long time, and still get confused with all the metal variations. At any rate, I'll check it out.

I love the metal - punk combo in its many forms.

[United States of The One Percent]

Look, the first two albums (dating myself here) I ever bought that weren't classical or jazz were The Clash and Never Mind the Bollocks. But now that the Sid Vicious version of My Way is selling cars, how do we not conclude that the punk revolution is, well, over?

[Casita]

Look, the first two albums (dating myself here) I ever bought that weren't classical or jazz were The Clash and Never Mind the Bollocks. But now that the Sid Vicious version of My Way is selling cars, how do we not conclude that the punk revolution is, well, over?

It's not over, it just moved pasted the pistols etc.

[I'm into 30/40s jazz like, 'washboard serenaders' etc. And Antonín Dvořák's requiem, is one of my all time favorite classical pieces; this conversation is for a different thread though]

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Checked out the mtalcore bands, not really feeling those much.

[Filthy Ginger Bastards]

Look, the first two albums (dating myself here) I ever bought that weren't classical or jazz were The Clash and Never Mind the Bollocks. But now that the Sid Vicious version of My Way is selling cars, how do we not conclude that the punk revolution is, well, over?

And Johnny Rotten is selling fucking butter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mSE-Iy_tFY


I mean, the initial punk revolution sort of self destructed, but punk's not dead.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Checked out the mtalcore bands, not really feeling those much.

That's fine, I mostly just wanted to show the difference. It's funny how metal and punk can be blended in at least a dozen different ways that sound very distinct from each other.

[Casita]

Checked out the mtalcore bands, not really feeling those much.

That's fine, I mostly just wanted to show the difference. It's funny how metal and punk can be blended in at least a dozen different ways that sound very distinct from each other.

For sure thanks for the links.

What's your favorite type/s of punk?

[Soviet Haaregrad]

That's fine, I mostly just wanted to show the difference. It's funny how metal and punk can be blended in at least a dozen different ways that sound very distinct from each other.

For sure thanks for the links.

What's your favorite type/s of punk?

Probably crust or hardcore. I listen to a lot of emo and a fair bit of older metalcore too though.

[The New Sea Territory]

For sure thanks for the links.

What's your favorite type/s of punk?

Probably crust or hardcore. I listen to a lot of emo and a fair bit of older metalcore too though.

...like Fugazi and old emo or modern emo/post-hardcore?

[The New Sea Territory]

Look, the first two albums (dating myself here) I ever bought that weren't classical or jazz were The Clash and Never Mind the Bollocks. But now that the Sid Vicious version of My Way is selling cars, how do we not conclude that the punk revolution is, well, over?

And Johnny Rotten is selling fucking butter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mSE-Iy_tFY


I mean, the initial punk revolution sort of self destructed, but punk's not dead.

"So long as there are rules that need breaking, pissed-off teenagers and basements to play in, punk will never die."

[Casita]

I like crust XD

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Probably crust or hardcore. I listen to a lot of emo and a fair bit of older metalcore too though.

...like Fugazi and old emo or modern emo/post-hardcore?

I like Fugazi and Rites of Spring and Moss Icon, but I mostly mean stuff like Planes Mistaken For Stars and Small Brown Bike and screamier, frantic stuff like Orchid, Saetia, Four Hundred Years, Neil Perry, Portrait, ect...

[The New Sea Territory]

I like crust XD

Crust is good. I like when Black Metal bands crossover into the crust genre.

[Dead Names]

...like Fugazi and old emo or modern emo/post-hardcore?

I like Fugazi and Rites of Spring and Moss Icon, but I mostly mean stuff like Planes Mistaken For Stars and Small Brown Bike and screamier, frantic stuff like Orchid, Saetia, Four Hundred Years, Neil Perry, Portrait, ect...

Neil Perry <3

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I like crust XD

Crust is good. I like when Black Metal bands crossover into the crust genre.

When I was younger I wanted to start a band that combined emo, crust and black metal.

http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/STAB ... play611073

That's one of the songs I had started to write.

[Casita]

Cool sound, soviet.

I can get into some black metal and crust.