Punk Rock Discussion Thread

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Appalachian Terror Unit are really good.

[Regenburg]

i love punk rock
stage bottles is a great band would recommend
and ramones of course

[Cosumar]

Soviet Haaregrad - thanks for posting Saetia's A Retrospective in that other thread. It's instantly become one of my favorite punk albums. Certainly the best screamo I've heard.

You're welcome. They're the band that got me into emotional hardcore/emo about 14 years ago and I've never looked back since. I can post some more 'skramz'-ish stuff if you'd like.

Yeah, recs for similar stuff would be more than welcome. It's not a genre I've explored much.

skramz = what real "screamo" started to call itself when MTV started calling any poppy metalcore band with songs about girls "screamo".

I know, but I'm stubborn and am not going to let MTV redefine screamo. To me, screamo = skramz.

[Casita]

Appalachian Terror Unit are really good.

They are awesome. There's a ton of good punk out there.

[Rabotnikisoyedinennyye]

What do you mean when you say the least punk person ever? As in aesthetically or intellectually?

I've always considered it more of an attitudinal thing, a state of mind.

Probably both.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Yeah, recs for similar stuff would be more than welcome. It's not a genre I've explored much.

Circle Takes The Square
Orchid
Love Lost But Not Forgotten
Hot Cross (ex Saetia members)
A Day In Black And White
City of Caterpillar
I Would Set Myself on Fire For You
I Hate Myself
I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism In Your Yearbook
The Birds Are Spies, They Report To The Trees
Neil Perry
Kaospilot
Pg.99
Portrait
Reversal of Man
Roads To Shiloh
She Died Real Pretty
Shikari
A Fine Boat, That Coffin
Raein
You And I

Not super similar, but worth listens:
Planes Mistaken For Stars
Small Brown Bike
(early) Hot Water Music

[Adab]

I'm not really into punk rock, but I do like some Green Day songs, especially "American Idiot" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams".

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I'm not really into punk rock, but I do like some Green Day songs, especially "American Idiot" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams".

Green Day might have started as a punk rock band, but had turned into a poppy alternative band long before that album came out.

If you want some pop-punk you should give NoFX a listen. Early Propagandhi is really good pop-punk, their newer stuff somehow meshes pop-punk and thrash metal together in a really interesting way.
Epitaph and Fat Wreck Chords are two labels with loads of pop-punk, some of which doesn't suck.

[Casita]

To me pop-punk is so f'n lame. It's really just pop music.

I consider NoFX as a skate-punk band.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

To me pop-punk is so f'n lame. It's really just pop music.

I consider NoFX as a skate-punk band.

There's pop-punk that's poppy punk and there's "punk-pop" that's just straight up pop music pretending to be punk.

[Dead Names]

Got to go to Riot Fest this past weekend and saw a lot of really fucking awesome punk related music.

NOFX (pop-punk forefathers)
Title Fight (pop-punk that fucking rips)
Pity Sex (emo/shoegaze)
Modern Baseball (fucking love this fucking band)
The Front Bottoms (more indie/emo; my favorite show of the weekend)
Circa Survive (post-hardcore/emo)
Pianos Become The Teeth (enough said)
TWIABPAIANLATD (also known as The World Is, unforgettable emo/post-rock)
Say Anything (the eighth grade version of me was jumping for joy)
La Dispute (whoa)
Cerebral Ballzy (throwback hardcore punk)
Dads (damn good emo; I love when drummers are also lead singers)
Tiny Moving Parts (more great emo; new album is amazing)

If anyone wants to talk more about emo/screamo, please lets do.

[Cosumar]

Got to go to Riot Fest this past weekend and saw a lot of really fucking awesome punk related music.

NOFX (pop-punk forefathers)
Pianos Become The Teeth (enough said)
TWIABPAIANLATD (also known as The World Is, unforgettable emo/post-rock)
La Dispute (whoa)

I would love to see these bands live, especially La Dispute. Rooms of the House is phenomenal. Jealous of you.

Yeah, recs for similar stuff would be more than welcome. It's not a genre I've explored much.

Big ass list

Thanks. I already knew several of those names but just hadn't checked them out yet. Others were new to me. Will probably check Hot Cross first since its similar to Saetia, which I loved.

[Dead Names]

Got to go to Riot Fest this past weekend and saw a lot of really fucking awesome punk related music.

NOFX (pop-punk forefathers)
Pianos Become The Teeth (enough said)
TWIABPAIANLATD (also known as The World Is, unforgettable emo/post-rock)
La Dispute (whoa)

I would love to see these bands live, especially La Dispute. Rooms of the House is phenomenal. Jealous of you.

Big ass list

Thanks. I already knew several of those names but just hadn't checked them out yet. Others were new to me. Will probably check Hot Cross first since its similar to Saetia, which I loved.

La Dispute was pretty ethereal. One of the few hardcore bands I've seen that can find a balance between calm and chaos. As for the list provided by Haaregrad, Hot Cross is a great place to start. Risk Revival will end up being one of the genre's defining albums when it's all said and done. I recommend moving Circle Takes the Square upwards on your priority list along with iwrotehaikusaboutcannibalisminyouryearbook. They represent two ends of a very intriguing spectrum (the former being really melodic and the latter being a nonstop thrash of terror). And both bands are sad as hell, which is great.

[Casita]

To me pop-punk is so f'n lame. It's really just pop music.

I consider NoFX as a skate-punk band.

There's pop-punk that's poppy punk and there's "punk-pop" that's just straight up pop music pretending to be punk.

True. I feel that a lot of the pop punk bands forget the whole anti-corporation thing. I mean punk doesn't have just one sound, but amongst all the different styles, punk shares anti-coporation and subversive sentiments. Without such sentiments it's not really punk, so much as it is a novelty.

[Conoga]

There's pop-punk that's poppy punk and there's "punk-pop" that's just straight up pop music pretending to be punk.

True. I feel that a lot of the pop punk bands forget the whole anti-corporation thing. I mean punk doesn't have just one sound, but amongst all the different styles, punk shares anti-coporation and subversive sentiments. Without such sentiments it's not really punk, so much as it is a novelty.

Punk doesn't have to be political. Bands like Ramones or Television are almost completely apolitical and are still seen as icons of the genre

[Cosumar]

iwrotehaikusaboutcannibalisminyouryearbook

That is one awful band name. Not sure if I can get past that

[Soviet Haaregrad]

True. I feel that a lot of the pop punk bands forget the whole anti-corporation thing. I mean punk doesn't have just one sound, but amongst all the different styles, punk shares anti-coporation and subversive sentiments. Without such sentiments it's not really punk, so much as it is a novelty.

Punk doesn't have to be political. Bands like Ramones or Television are almost completely apolitical and are still seen as icons of the genre

DIY isn't political though, and it's at the very heart of punk rock. A lot of the pop pretending to be punk bands don't come off as though they're familiar with doing things themselves, independently; they're no different from any other pop-rock band that works to get signed on a big label and get the big label commercial push that comes with it. Some of those bands *cough*Good Charlotte*cough* don't even write their own songs.

At that point what makes them any different from any other manufactured pop act?

[Soviet Haaregrad]

iwrotehaikusaboutcannibalisminyouryearbook

That is one awful band name. Not sure if I can get past that

So I take it you won't be checking out stabyouintheheadandeatyourfaceoff?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8WqVjxkgO0

[Volmachtia]

I have a request; metalcore bands that are actual metallic hardcore, not the poppy autotuned shitsmears that MTV and Hot Topic manufacture?

[Cosumar]

I have a request; metalcore bands that are actual metallic hardcore, not the poppy autotuned shitsmears that MTV and Hot Topic manufacture?

Converge and Botch are the obvious big names. Dillinger Escape Plan and Between the Buried are some "respectable" modern metalcore bands, as I'm sure you know.

I'm no expert on the genre, but here's some lesser known ones I like. Real old school metallic hardcore.
Integrity
Vision of Disorder
Rorschach
Glassjaw (maybe not so much metalcore, but still good)

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I have a request; metalcore bands that are actual metallic hardcore, not the poppy autotuned shitsmears that MTV and Hot Topic manufacture?

Converge
Shai Hulud
Anodyne
Earth Crisis
Ed Gein
Graf Orlock
Integrity
Jesuit
Living Sacrifice
Rorschach
The Secret
Uphill Battle
Zao
Weekend Nachos

[Filthy Ginger Bastards]

I have a request; metalcore bands that are actual metallic hardcore, not the poppy autotuned shitsmears that MTV and Hot Topic manufacture?

Converge and Botch are the obvious big names. Dillinger Escape Plan and Between the Buried are some "respectable" modern metalcore bands, as I'm sure you know.

I'm no expert on the genre, but here's some lesser known ones I like. Real old school metallic hardcore.
Integrity
Vision of Disorder
Rorschach
Glassjaw (maybe not so much metalcore, but still good)

I have been covering Pig Destroyer's cover of Integrity's Abraxas Annihilation a lot lately.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Converge and Botch are the obvious big names. Dillinger Escape Plan and Between the Buried are some "respectable" modern metalcore bands, as I'm sure you know.

I'm no expert on the genre, but here's some lesser known ones I like. Real old school metallic hardcore.
Integrity
Vision of Disorder
Rorschach
Glassjaw (maybe not so much metalcore, but still good)

I have been covering Pig Destroyer's cover of Integrity's Abraxas Annihilation a lot lately.

Pig Destroyer <3

Yeah, nothing valuable to contribute, I just love them.

[Casita]

I have a request; metalcore bands that are actual metallic hardcore, not the poppy autotuned shitsmears that MTV and Hot Topic manufacture?

Checkout stuff from profane existence

And bands like:

Primate
Anti-cimex
Amebix
DOOM
Disrupt
Vomitus
Zouo
Bhopal
Raw Poison
Black Kronstadt
Iskra
Skitsystem
Martyrdod

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I have a request; metalcore bands that are actual metallic hardcore, not the poppy autotuned shitsmears that MTV and Hot Topic manufacture?

Checkout stuff from profane existence

And bands like:

Primate
Anti-cimex
Amebix
DOOM
Disrupt
Vomitus
Zouo
Bhopal
Raw Poison
Black Kronstadt
Iskra
Skitsystem
Martyrdod

I wouldn't call any of that metalcore, but crust punk is another metal+punk crossover genre.

Other good crust bands:
His Hero Is Gone
From Ashes Rise
Aus-Rotten
One Eyed-God Prophecy
Oroku
Severed Head of State
Tragedy (ex-HHIG, but more d-beat influenced)
Union of Uranus
World Burns To Death


There's also Shikabane, from Japan, they're like if emo, powerviolence and black metal had a love child.