Punk Rock Discussion Thread

by **The New Sea Territory** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:24 pm

Oi!

Seeing we have a Metal Thread, but no thread for an equally awesome genre, I've decided to start a Punk Rock Thread. Whether you like the original Ramones, 90s pop-punk bands or the most underground of 80s hardcore, this is the place for you.

General Rule: If you're just here to bash the genre, please leave. No Flaming, Spamming or Trolling.

I'll start off. My favorite bands:

...and that's me. In general, I like most kinds of punk. I refrain from Nazi Punk or hate filled nonsense, but besides that, anything else is cool. My favorite genres are hardcore, thrashcore and powerviolence. Now you've heard me ramble on long enough...discuss!

by **The New Sea Territory** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:49 pm

A Great Ska Punk album....Choking Victim - No Gods, No Managers

by **Conoga** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:13 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:A Great Ska Punk album....Choking Victim - No Gods, No Managers

I really can't get into ska punk apart from a few songs.

by **Zeouria** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:17 pm

Glad to see this here. Thanks NST.

Now we just need a Grunge thread.

by **The New Sea Territory** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:26 pm

Conoga wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:A Great Ska Punk album....Choking Victim - No Gods, No Managers

I really can't get into ska punk apart from a few songs.

...what about Rancid?

Ska Punk is iffy. It has to be done very well to be good. Choking Victim/Leftover Crack are a really awesome mix of ska, hardcore, crust, anarcho-punk, thrash and black metal.

by **United Provinces of Atlantica** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:45 pm

My favorite band is DK, though I also really like Crass and Amebix.

Last.fm · by **Cosumar** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:49 pm

My favorite punk band is Bad Religion. Suffer is my favorite punk rock album and Stranger Than Fiction was the first album to get me into punk.

I also like the Sex Pistols, Amebix, Suicidal Tendencies, Black Flag, Vision of Disorder, Flipper, and Bad Brains.

Other than these bands, I haven't delved into Punk as much as I would like. Would appreciate any recommendations.

by **The New Sea Territory** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:42 pm

Cosumar wrote:My favorite punk band is Bad Religion. Suffer is my favorite punk rock album and Stranger Than Fiction was the first album to get me into punk.

I also like the Sex Pistols, Amebix, Suicidal Tendencies, Black Flag, Vision of Disorder, Flipper, and Bad Brains.

Other than these bands, I haven't delved into Punk as much as I would like. Would appreciate any recommendations.

Stranger than Fiction is one of Bad Religion's best.

Um...I've been listening to a lot of Leftover Crack and Choking Victim. DRI is pretty awesome, and if you like really heavy stuff, Capitalist Casualties.

by **Conoga** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:13 pm

Cosumar wrote:My favorite punk band is Bad Religion. Suffer is my favorite punk rock album and Stranger Than Fiction was the first album to get me into punk.

I also like the Sex Pistols, Amebix, Suicidal Tendencies, Black Flag, Vision of Disorder, Flipper, and Bad Brains.

Other than these bands, I haven't delved into Punk as much as I would like. Would appreciate any recommendations.

Propagandhi, Iceage and Perfect Pussy are some newer bands I like

by **The New Sea Territory** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:15 pm

Conoga wrote:
Cosumar wrote:My favorite punk band is Bad Religion. Suffer is my favorite punk rock album and Stranger Than Fiction was the first album to get me into punk.

I also like the Sex Pistols, Amebix, Suicidal Tendencies, Black Flag, Vision of Disorder, Flipper, and Bad Brains.

Other than these bands, I haven't delved into Punk as much as I would like. Would appreciate any recommendations.

Propagandhi, Iceage and Perfect Pussy are some newer bands I like

Propagandhi is awesome. Today's Empires is a great album.

by **Conoga** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:19 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Conoga wrote:Propagandhi, Iceage and Perfect Pussy are some newer bands I like

Propagandhi is awesome. Today's Empires is a great album.

Yeah, it's definitely my favourite album of theirs

by **Filthy Ginger Bastards** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:44 pm

Obviously, the hardcore classics above. And Ramones. Duh.

However, I see Screeching Weasel (one of my absolute favourites), but not The Queers! Very similar bands, and apparently good buds as well. Interesting balance of angry obscene stuff and poppy boy/girl songs. "Love Songs for the Retarded" and "Beat Off" are classic albums.

Circle Jerks, despite their issues with Black Flag, are pretty decent in my book as well. Also, The Misfits, despite Only and Danzig smearing feces on their legacy over petty squabbles, were also an iconic band. NOFX, once again, produces some decent music, despite their increasing grandeur.

Propagandhi is an excellent, thoughtful Canadian punk band and I like them a great deal, but I've really been into the Dayglo Abortions lately, which are really the opposite extreme, an intentionally offensive but very fun band. Hanson Brothers are also good Canadian punk, even though they're Ramones clones.

GWAR, Angry Samoans, Dead Milkmen and Dwarves. As you can probably tell, political correctness is not really a priority in my punk. I love bands that are not afraid to be political, and have some issues with Legs McNeill's original priorities, but I also don't care for bands that take themselves too seriously. I am an extremely progressive person, but sometimes you have to let loose and be playfully obnoxious. On that note, while I enjoy a few of GG Allin's songs, I think he was an objectionable character and find his personal philosophy repugnant.

On a political front, I have a huge thing for Riot Grrl. Bikini Kill is one of my favourite bands of all time, while I also listen to a lot of Bratmobile, The Youngins, Fifth Column, Red Aunts, Runaways and The Donnas (if they count)... the list is long. I initially thought Pussy Riot was devoid of musical talent, but in all fairness, they are usually being attacked. Some of their recorded material is pretty good.

Limp Wrist is also an excellent, fairly political, if not especially prolific, band. Randy is also quite political, perhaps not as intellectually dense as Propagandhi, but they have their moments. "Proletarian Hop" is their best, in my opinion.

Also, Agent Orange... always had a soft spot for surfpunk.

(Of course I can't list them all, but I also enjoy Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Casualties, Vandals, Lillingtons, Dropkicks, Flogging Molly, Gore Gore Girls (the Ben Weasel one, not the newer one with absolutely no connection), Riverdales, Transplants, Streetlight Manifesto, Choking Victim, Hog, Iggy Pop, Velvet Underground, Johnny Thunders, Dead Boys, Sex Pistols (despite the bollocks), Rancid, Transplants, Talking Heads, Lagwagon, Neos, Me First and the Gimme Gimmes... I'll stop now.)

But if we include grindcore, which I do, the list would really blow up. Suffice it to say Pig Destroyer's disc of punk covers is golden. I'll cut myself off there.

Local punk band Semen in Garfunkel is pretty rad as well, with tracks such as "Born on a Bender" and "BBQ and Destroy."

And just for fun, nerdpunk band Smoked Solid Dairy has recently come to my attention. For all you lovers of Japanese weirdness and a grown man dressed as an anime princess.

by **Soviet Haaregrad** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:51 pm

Limp Wrist has members of Kill The Man Who Questions, who are (yet another) political anarchist band from PA. Them and His Hero Is Gone are my two favourite PA bands, but Aus Rotten are up there too.
Propagandhi are amazing.

Also, Orchid are amazing. Super intense.

by **Rabotnikisoyedinennyye** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:10 am

I like punk rock, but I'm probably the least punk person you'll ever meet.

by **Soviet Haaregrad** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:17 am

Rabotnikisoyedinennyye wrote:I like punk rock, but I'm probably the least punk person you'll ever meet.

Try not bathing for a week and sleeping in an abandoned building. This should make you significantly more punk rock.

by **Filthy Ginger Bastards** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:29 pm

What do you mean when you say the least punk person ever? As in aesthetically or intellectually?

I've always considered it more of an attitudinal thing, a state of mind.

YouTube Channel · by **The REAL Glasers** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:46 pm

A lot of kids these days don't understand that Punk is an ideology that goes beyond the studded jean jackets and back patches.

Also, Third-Wave Ska is nearly as bad as Nickelback.

by **Soviet Haaregrad** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:07 pm

The REAL Glasers wrote:A lot of kids these days don't understand that Punk is an ideology that goes beyond the studded jean jackets and back patches.

Also, Third-Wave Ska is nearly as bad as Nickelback.

We all know Ska Sucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F03gEzdLa2g

by **Filthy Ginger Bastards** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:16 pm

The trend will die out, with any luck.

by **Greater Weselton** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:23 pm

I found this interesting punk version of the East German anthem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z3Jx22pqfs

by **Filthy Ginger Bastards** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:20 pm

To be honest, I expected a much larger punk presence on NS.

by **Filthy Ginger Bastards** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:44 pm

We seem to have hit a lull. It also appears that we're all into Propagandhi.

I personally enjoyed their earlier work the most. How To Clean Everything was great, despite the fact that Chris Hannah hates it now. I think Less Talk. More Rock is my favourite album, but Potemkin City Limits and Today's Empires are great too. With that being said, I do not like the direction they are going in currently. Supporting Caste and Failed States, I think, stray from what I liked about their more sophomoric efforts, but the roots of that style can be seen in their mid career albums. They seem to have lost some of their edge and combativeness, in my opinion. Still strong subject matter, but a more technical, less punchy delivery. I liked their youthful impotent rage, I guess. Middle Finger Response sums it up well.

On another note, a version I have of The Only Good Fascist Is a Dead Fascist features someone calling in to complain about Hannah's descent into "politically correct authoritarianism," specifically relating to an incident where he beat an audience member with a microphone stand for Seig Heiling at one of his shows. There obviously was, and in some scenes, may still be, a Nazi punk problem (my God, after reading Henry Rollins' 'Get In the Van'... so many skinheads...) but is this an appropriate response? I know of many instances wherein a band member retaliated against audience members (Henry again, obviously, and the notorious Ben Weasel incident, for example) but this individual, however much a backpfeifengesischt, did not actually commit any violence (to my knowledge).

While I don't think any less of Hannah for it, is this evidence of a wider backlash against the skinhead presence in punk scenes? Or of political correctness gone awry? While I enjoy Propagandhi's intersectional, varied and educated views on a multiplicity of subjects, I have a strange relationship with political correctness wherein I know the proper terms and hold progressive, informed views but still (among those who know myself and my views) am playfully obnoxious and offensive. I myself am conflicted on the issue, but I certainly don't begrudge the man.

Even this, and his concerted efforts, though, were not enough to win him the infamy of Worst Canadian

http://www.punknews.org/article/24853/propagandhis-chris-hannah-places-second-in-worst-canadian-poll

Last.fm · by **Cosumar** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:14 am

Soviet Haaregrad - thanks for posting Saetia's A Retrospective in that other thread. It's instantly become one of my favorite punk albums. Certainly the best screamo I've heard.

by **Soviet Haaregrad** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:56 am

Cosumar wrote:Soviet Haaregrad - thanks for posting Saetia's A Retrospective in that other thread. It's instantly become one of my favorite punk albums. Certainly the best screamo I've heard.

You're welcome. They're the band that got me into emotional hardcore/emo about 14 years ago and I've never looked back since. I can post some more 'skramz'-ish stuff if you'd like.

skramz = what real "screamo" started to call itself when MTV started calling any poppy metalcore band with songs about girls "screamo".

by **Casita** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:00 pm

Love punk rock!

the virus, Defiance (from Oregon), A Global Threat, Sin Dios, Escorbuto, Skarpretter, The Oppressed, Black Bird Raum, Choking Victim, leftover crack, AOA, A.P.P.L.E., Appalachian Terror Unit, etc; the list goes on.

The bands above are a mix of ska, street, crust, skin(antifa), and folk punk.

Skarpretter

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sX5h9VsqIrk

A Great Skarpretter EP

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sX5h9VsqIrk

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