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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:13 am

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New Babylonia wrote: Being competitive is different than being so completely obsessed about winning that nothing else if life is relevant. That's a psychological issue. Proof: Charlie Sheen.

Rainbow Dash is nowhere near that into winning.

Alright, fair enough, no one is as psycho as Charlie Sheen. But you get my point, she's a bit too competitive to just write off as being nothing caused by exterior experiences.
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Postby Atomosea » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:17 am

New Babylonia wrote:
Atomosea wrote:Rainbow Dash is nowhere near that into winning.

Alright, fair enough, no one is as psycho as Charlie Sheen. But you get my point, she's a bit too competitive to just write off as being nothing caused by exterior experiences.

I don't really see it. She does really enjoy competing, but it's not like an obsession or anything. There are plenty of other things she thinks and cares about more. It's just her choleric nature.

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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:23 am

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New Babylonia wrote:Alright, fair enough, no one is as psycho as Charlie Sheen. But you get my point, she's a bit too competitive to just write off as being nothing caused by exterior experiences.

I don't really see it. She does really enjoy competing, but it's not like an obsession or anything. There are plenty of other things she thinks and cares about more. It's just her choleric nature.

Well, here's my definition of being over-competitive. To give us an idea of what the other is thinking, of course.

Gym class hero. You know, those overboard tryhards in gym class. You know the ones. I've got a couple people who a borderline to that in my own PE class. Rainbow, on the other hand, or hoof in her case, would probably startle them. And not just for the fact that she's a flying, talking, colorful pony. That would be part of it sure, but let's pretends that didn't surprise them :P

They would all agree she is overly competitive, way more than is healthy for a gym class, and in many cases, most everything, and would begin debating as to why she acts like this.
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Postby Atomosea » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:29 am

New Babylonia wrote:
Atomosea wrote:I don't really see it. She does really enjoy competing, but it's not like an obsession or anything. There are plenty of other things she thinks and cares about more. It's just her choleric nature.

Well, here's my definition of being over-competitive. To give us an idea of what the other is thinking, of course.

Gym class hero. You know, those overboard tryhards in gym class. You know the ones. I've got a couple people who a borderline to that in my own PE class. Rainbow, on the other hand, or hoof in her case, would probably startle them. And not just for the fact that she's a flying, talking, colorful pony. That would be part of it sure, but let's pretends that didn't surprise them :P

They would all agree she is overly competitive, way more than is healthy for a gym class, and in many cases, most everything, and would begin debating as to why she acts like this.

Well, maybe for a gym class, but she's not in school, she's a working mare and a respected semi-pro athlete. When she's not managing the weather or doing something with her friends, she's competing with other athletes in major competitions (or at least relatively "major") like the Best Young Flyers Competition or the Equestria Games, for trophies and ribbons and medals and bragging rights n' junk.
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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:31 am

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New Babylonia wrote:Well, here's my definition of being over-competitive. To give us an idea of what the other is thinking, of course.

Gym class hero. You know, those overboard tryhards in gym class. You know the ones. I've got a couple people who a borderline to that in my own PE class. Rainbow, on the other hand, or hoof in her case, would probably startle them. And not just for the fact that she's a flying, talking, colorful pony. That would be part of it sure, but let's pretends that didn't surprise them :P

They would all agree she is overly competitive, way more than is healthy for a gym class, and in many cases, most everything, and would begin debating as to why she acts like this.

Well, maybe for a gym class, but when she's not managing the weather or doing something with her friends, she's competing with other athletes in major competitions (or at least relatively "major") like the Best Young Flyers Competition or the Equestria Games, for trophies and ribbons and medals and bragging rights n' junk.

Uh, i can see you must not be familiar with major league atheletes or Olympains. They are competitive, but not that much.
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Postby Quidomne » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:31 am

You know, I should really stop looking at this thread signed out, because every time I do, my blood pressure increases by at least 50%.

Gonna go listen to some pony music to calm down...
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Postby Atomosea » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:33 am

New Babylonia wrote:
Atomosea wrote:Well, maybe for a gym class, but when she's not managing the weather or doing something with her friends, she's competing with other athletes in major competitions (or at least relatively "major") like the Best Young Flyers Competition or the Equestria Games, for trophies and ribbons and medals and bragging rights n' junk.

Uh, i can see you must not be familiar with major league atheletes or Olympains. They are competitive, but not that much.

I think we may be going by different assessments of Rainbow Dash's competitiveness, here. What incident exactly pushed her over the limit into being "that much"?

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Postby Lt Callahan » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:35 am

Quidomne wrote:You know, I should really stop looking at this thread signed out, because every time I do, my blood pressure increases by at least 50%.

Gonna go listen to some pony music to calm down...

I get this feeling that you aren't the only one... but I enjoy my time here!
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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:36 am

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New Babylonia wrote:Uh, i can see you must not be familiar with major league atheletes or Olympains. They are competitive, but not that much.

I think we may be going by different assessments of Rainbow Dash's competitiveness, here. What incident exactly pushed her over the limit into being "that much"?

It doesn't take a single incident. It's a general sum of her actions across the board. That's what we've been discussing this whole time, not just one incident. Overall, she is very very competitive, a bit too much so, as sometimes it seems like life is the game she's trying to win.
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

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You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:37 am

Quidomne wrote:You know, I should really stop looking at this thread signed out, because every time I do, my blood pressure increases by at least 50%.

Gonna go listen to some pony music to calm down...

Does it make a difference if your signed in or not?
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

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You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:38 am

Quidomne wrote:You know, I should really stop looking at this thread signed out, because every time I do, my blood pressure increases by at least 50%.

Gonna go listen to some pony music to calm down...


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Postby Atomosea » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:54 am

New Babylonia wrote:
Atomosea wrote:I think we may be going by different assessments of Rainbow Dash's competitiveness, here. What incident exactly pushed her over the limit into being "that much"?

It doesn't take a single incident. It's a general sum of her actions across the board. That's what we've been discussing this whole time, not just one incident. Overall, she is very very competitive, a bit too much so, as sometimes it seems like life is the game she's trying to win.

Once again, I don't really see it. I see she's competitive, I see she's boisterous and easily excitable, and can be narcissistic and rude when the thrill blinds her, but a bit of that's to be expected with her choleric temperament and relatively young age. Competition and "winning" don't completely consume her every thought; she doesn't mock the other competitors, it doesn't affect her work, she doesn't often neglect her friends or their feelings for the sake of competition unless her pride blinds her. Dash isn't a pony I'd like to spend all my time with, and her highly competitive, energetic, somewhat egotistical nature can certainly be a problem sometimes, but her friends and the better parts of her temperament seem to keep her mostly grounded, and I don't personally see a reason to call her a psychiatrist yet. I guess we're just looking at her differently.

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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:58 am

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After reading Encyclopedia Dramatica, I have come to the conclusion that the site be nuked from orbit.

For all our sakes.

Wha?
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

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You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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Postby Atomosea » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:58 am

New Babylonia wrote:
Lysset wrote:
After reading Encyclopedia Dramatica, I have come to the conclusion that the site be nuked from orbit.

For all our sakes.

Wha?

It's for the best.

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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:59 am

Atomosea wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:It doesn't take a single incident. It's a general sum of her actions across the board. That's what we've been discussing this whole time, not just one incident. Overall, she is very very competitive, a bit too much so, as sometimes it seems like life is the game she's trying to win.

Once again, I don't really see it. I see she's competitive, I see she's boisterous and easily excitable, and can be narcissistic and rude when the thrill blinds her, but a bit of that's to be expected with her choleric temperament and relatively young age. Competition and "winning" don't completely consume her every thought; she doesn't mock the other competitors, it doesn't affect her work, she doesn't often neglect her friends or their feelings for the sake of competition unless her pride blinds her. Dash isn't a pony I'd like to spend all my time with, and her highly competitive, energetic, somewhat egotistical nature can certainly be a problem sometimes, but her friends and the better parts of her temperament seem to keep her mostly grounded, and I don't personally see a reason to call her a psychiatrist yet. I guess we're just looking at her differently.

Different life experiences and such. Though, tbh, i think its hard to argue, it almost definitely has to do with being raised in Cloudsdale. We all know how full of pride they are.
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

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You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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Postby Atomosea » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:04 pm

New Babylonia wrote:
Atomosea wrote:Once again, I don't really see it. I see she's competitive, I see she's boisterous and easily excitable, and can be narcissistic and rude when the thrill blinds her, but a bit of that's to be expected with her choleric temperament and relatively young age. Competition and "winning" don't completely consume her every thought; she doesn't mock the other competitors, it doesn't affect her work, she doesn't often neglect her friends or their feelings for the sake of competition unless her pride blinds her. Dash isn't a pony I'd like to spend all my time with, and her highly competitive, energetic, somewhat egotistical nature can certainly be a problem sometimes, but her friends and the better parts of her temperament seem to keep her mostly grounded, and I don't personally see a reason to call her a psychiatrist yet. I guess we're just looking at her differently.

Different life experiences and such. Though, tbh, i think its hard to argue, it almost definitely has to do with being raised in Cloudsdale. We all know how full of pride they are.

Almost definitely. Pegasi in general seem to have a strong taste for the joys of competition and the thrill of victory, for better or worse.

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Atomosea wrote:I think we may be going by different assessments of Rainbow Dash's competitiveness, here. What incident exactly pushed her over the limit into being "that much"?

It doesn't take a single incident. It's a general sum of her actions across the board. That's what we've been discussing this whole time, not just one incident. Overall, she is very very competitive, a bit too much so, as sometimes it seems like life is the game she's trying to win.

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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:20 pm

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New Babylonia wrote:Different life experiences and such. Though, tbh, i think its hard to argue, it almost definitely has to do with being raised in Cloudsdale. We all know how full of pride they are.

Almost definitely. Pegasi in general seem to have a strong taste for the joys of competition and the thrill of victory, for better or worse.


Which is clearly problem for many of them. Spitfire, Lightning Dust etc.

Perhaps Flash Sentry became Royal Guard to escape from crazy Cloudsdale pegasi competition nightmare :P
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Postby Atomosea » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:25 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:
Atomosea wrote:Almost definitely. Pegasi in general seem to have a strong taste for the joys of competition and the thrill of victory, for better or worse.


Which is clearly problem for many of them. Spitfire, Lightning Dust etc.

Perhaps Flash Sentry became Royal Guard to escape from crazy Cloudsdale pegasi competition nightmare :P

Or maybe he thought the Guard would be a better challenge.

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New Babylonia wrote:It doesn't take a single incident. It's a general sum of her actions across the board. That's what we've been discussing this whole time, not just one incident. Overall, she is very very competitive, a bit too much so, as sometimes it seems like life is the game she's trying to win.

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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:52 pm

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Socialist Czechia wrote:
Which is clearly problem for many of them. Spitfire, Lightning Dust etc.

Perhaps Flash Sentry became Royal Guard to escape from crazy Cloudsdale pegasi competition nightmare :P

Or maybe he thought the Guard would be a better challenge.


Like guard Fancy Pants balcony? I doubt that :D
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