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The SFSR
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Postby The SFSR » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:25 am

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What's the UBD, something Baltics related? I have Mittelafrika, Brazzaville to Zanzibar to Madagascar, plus as far south as Zimbabwe, and satellites in a federation from Morocco to the Algerian interior; rest of Africa is claimed (even a Libya-to-Nigeria corridor by the Ottomans!). I have a truce with Sweden as a result of the Lithuanian war of liberation. I have Shanghai and Taiwan.

How many wars will that take?

The UBD is the United Baltic Duchy.
I PDM you can create it as a satellite if you have Estonia+Lativa (Lithuania is an optional addition).

How many wars it'll take? As many as are required to carefully explain to the world that GERMANY STRONKEST!


But while I'm rebuilding model armies of 4:4:2:1, France will catch me in the rear :'(

Fight France, and I'd expect Austria would do the same.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:40 am

Well, after a marriage into the Samanid (northern Persian) dynasty and a few murders of successors, I successfully forced my claim on Northern Persia, as well as defeating a civil war; though, it was exhausting. Only to find that I still don't have enough de jure territory to form the Persian Empire, and I sure as hell don't want to challenge the Abbasids for it; so I guess I need to wait for them to implode or something, because they are fucking strong.

Map: http://i.imgur.com/qtckYF1.png
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:56 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, after a marriage into the Samanid (northern Persian) dynasty and a few murders of successors, I successfully forced my claim on Northern Persia, as well as defeating a civil war; though, it was exhausting. Only to find that I still don't have enough de jure territory to form the Persian Empire, and I sure as hell don't want to challenge the Abbasids for it; so I guess I need to wait for them to implode or something, because they are fucking strong.

Map: http://i.imgur.com/qtckYF1.png

Wait for a Succession crisis, Independence Revolt, or Decadence revolt. It will come.
In the meantime, prepare.
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The Jonathanian States wrote:The UBD is the United Baltic Duchy.
I PDM you can create it as a satellite if you have Estonia+Lativa (Lithuania is an optional addition).

How many wars it'll take? As many as are required to carefully explain to the world that GERMANY STRONKEST!


But while I'm rebuilding model armies of 4:4:2:1, France will catch me in the rear :'(

Fight France, and I'd expect Austria would do the same.

What Exactly do you mean with 4:4:2:1 (Which is which unit, that is)?

Also, if you can't defeat France and Austria at the same time, you definitely aren't churning out enough troops.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:46 am

The Jonathanian States wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, after a marriage into the Samanid (northern Persian) dynasty and a few murders of successors, I successfully forced my claim on Northern Persia, as well as defeating a civil war; though, it was exhausting. Only to find that I still don't have enough de jure territory to form the Persian Empire, and I sure as hell don't want to challenge the Abbasids for it; so I guess I need to wait for them to implode or something, because they are fucking strong.

Map: http://i.imgur.com/qtckYF1.png

Wait for a Succession crisis, Independence Revolt, or Decadence revolt. It will come.
In the meantime, prepare.


This. Also, wait for a Shia Caliphate Revolt or a Religious Revolt in Ethopia, unless they've converted it.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:47 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Wait for a Succession crisis, Independence Revolt, or Decadence revolt. It will come.
In the meantime, prepare.


This. Also, wait for a Shia Caliphate Revolt or a Religious Revolt in Ethopia, unless they've converted it.

I know; it's gotta implode sometime; they only conquered Ethiopia an Egypt with their last ruler, and the current one is getting old.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:54 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
This. Also, wait for a Shia Caliphate Revolt or a Religious Revolt in Ethopia, unless they've converted it.

I know; it's gotta implode sometime; they only conquered Ethiopia an Egypt with their last ruler, and the current one is getting old.


When he dies, kill his heir. Keep them unstable, and they'll collapse.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:00 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I know; it's gotta implode sometime; they only conquered Ethiopia an Egypt with their last ruler, and the current one is getting old.


When he dies, kill his heir. Keep them unstable, and they'll collapse.

That's how I managed to bring down the Samanids (or integrate them, I should say, as the Shahdom still exists independently, just ruled by the same guy who rules Persia and Baluchistan), so I guess it could work; however, I'm still reeling from civil war (that will likely turn up again because I white peaced so that I could go on the Hajj and observe Ramadan because decadence was really high), and my intrigue sucks. I need to rebuild before embarking on something that big.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:33 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
When he dies, kill his heir. Keep them unstable, and they'll collapse.

That's how I managed to bring down the Samanids (or integrate them, I should say, as the Shahdom still exists independently, just ruled by the same guy who rules Persia and Baluchistan), so I guess it could work; however, I'm still reeling from civil war (that will likely turn up again because I white peaced so that I could go on the Hajj and observe Ramadan because decadence was really high), and my intrigue sucks. I need to rebuild before embarking on something that big.


What about the Saffarids?

Edit: Also, I may have accidentally proven in EUIV that it is entirely possible to control world trade as the Hansa. With 11 merchants, and the assistance of Russia keeping the Silk Road running, I've got a ridiculously valuable CoT in Lubeck, and will soon complete control over all trade from the Indus through the Gulf of Aden node, trade, which I will move to Lubeck with my army of merchants.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:44 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:That's how I managed to bring down the Samanids (or integrate them, I should say, as the Shahdom still exists independently, just ruled by the same guy who rules Persia and Baluchistan), so I guess it could work; however, I'm still reeling from civil war (that will likely turn up again because I white peaced so that I could go on the Hajj and observe Ramadan because decadence was really high), and my intrigue sucks. I need to rebuild before embarking on something that big.


What about the Saffarids?

Edit: Also, I may have accidentally proven in EUIV that it is entirely possible to control world trade as the Hansa. With 11 merchants, and the assistance of Russia keeping the Silk Road running, I've got a ridiculously valuable CoT in Lubeck, and will soon complete control over all trade from the Indus through the Gulf of Aden node, trade, which I will move to Lubeck with my army of merchants.

I think I picked them, but then designed the rulers. They're the al-Amuli now.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:46 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
What about the Saffarids?

Edit: Also, I may have accidentally proven in EUIV that it is entirely possible to control world trade as the Hansa. With 11 merchants, and the assistance of Russia keeping the Silk Road running, I've got a ridiculously valuable CoT in Lubeck, and will soon complete control over all trade from the Indus through the Gulf of Aden node, trade, which I will move to Lubeck with my army of merchants.

I think I picked them, but then designed the rulers. They're the al-Amuli now.


Ah. Do you still have your event troops around?
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:48 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:That's how I managed to bring down the Samanids (or integrate them, I should say, as the Shahdom still exists independently, just ruled by the same guy who rules Persia and Baluchistan), so I guess it could work; however, I'm still reeling from civil war (that will likely turn up again because I white peaced so that I could go on the Hajj and observe Ramadan because decadence was really high), and my intrigue sucks. I need to rebuild before embarking on something that big.


What about the Saffarids?

Edit: Also, I may have accidentally proven in EUIV that it is entirely possible to control world trade as the Hansa. With 11 merchants, and the assistance of Russia keeping the Silk Road running, I've got a ridiculously valuable CoT in Lubeck, and will soon complete control over all trade from the Indus through the Gulf of Aden node, trade, which I will move to Lubeck with my army of merchants.

Nice.....
Please, make a pic of your trade control.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:49 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I think I picked them, but then designed the rulers. They're the al-Amuli now.


Ah. Do you still have your event troops around?

Nah, they all died in the war with the Pratihara; now my armies are a combination of my 2500 retinue troops and another 11,000 or so liege levies.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:53 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
What about the Saffarids?

Edit: Also, I may have accidentally proven in EUIV that it is entirely possible to control world trade as the Hansa. With 11 merchants, and the assistance of Russia keeping the Silk Road running, I've got a ridiculously valuable CoT in Lubeck, and will soon complete control over all trade from the Indus through the Gulf of Aden node, trade, which I will move to Lubeck with my army of merchants.

Nice.....
Please, make a pic of your trade control.


I'll get a pic up tomorrow. I have the second largest income in the game after the blob of France.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:53 pm

Has anybody here had the chance to use the EU4 -> V2 converter-mod ?
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Postby Herargon » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:06 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, after a marriage into the Samanid (northern Persian) dynasty and a few murders of successors, I successfully forced my claim on Northern Persia, as well as defeating a civil war; though, it was exhausting. Only to find that I still don't have enough de jure territory to form the Persian Empire, and I sure as hell don't want to challenge the Abbasids for it; so I guess I need to wait for them to implode or something, because they are fucking strong.

Map: http://i.imgur.com/qtckYF1.png


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Postby Herargon » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:07 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:Has anybody here had the chance to use the EU4 -> V2 converter-mod ?

No, but where can I get it - if I may ask? :-P
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:12 pm

Herargon wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Has anybody here had the chance to use the EU4 -> V2 converter-mod ?

No, but where can I get it - if I may ask? :-P

Here, on the P'dox forums.

I'm currently considering continuing my current Prussia game until 1820-'30ish and then converting to Vicky, and thought I'd ask if somebody else here used it and has any opinions on it.
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Postby Herargon » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:32 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Herargon wrote:No, but where can I get it - if I may ask? :-P

Here, on the P'dox forums.
I'm currently considering continuing my current Prussia game until 1820-'30ish and then converting to Vicky, and thought I'd ask if somebody else here used it and has any opinions on it.

Thanks!

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I can't come there without an account.. Meh. I wouldn't even be able to play one game for that long anyways :lol:

You can get with :
CK2+TOG --> EU IV --> Victoria 2 --> Hearts of Iron 3 + modern day mod

Play for 1000+ years, from 867 up to 1965 or even 1991.
There also is a mod for CK2 that enables you to go as far back as 480.
So, you can play from 480 up to 1991 :D
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Postby Den Svenska Riket » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:47 pm

Has anyone else realized that if the How To Train Your Dragon movies gave more background about the setting a CKII total conversion mod would be possible. I realized this watching the sequel today in the theaters.
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Postby Shaggai » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:37 pm

I want to change the succession law in England, but there's one war between my wife and some other vassal. I decide to end this war, in order to keep the throne of England when I die. First, I assassinate the target. The war continues. I go back and reload a save and do the same to my wife. The war continues. I go back and reload that save again and change the Crown Authority in England to Medium, so wars between vassals aren't allowed. The war still continues. Anyone have any idea how to end this?
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Postby Bralia » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:55 pm

Shaggai wrote:I want to change the succession law in England, but there's one war between my wife and some other vassal. I decide to end this war, in order to keep the throne of England when I die. First, I assassinate the target. The war continues. I go back and reload a save and do the same to my wife. The war continues. I go back and reload that save again and change the Crown Authority in England to Medium, so wars between vassals aren't allowed. The war still continues. Anyone have any idea how to end this?

I don't think it's possible to end the war, save gaming the system and reloading as either the queen or the vassal and forcing a peace yourself. If the two characters are deadlocked in an unwinnable war, I'd say it's fair to go and break it up that way.
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Postby The SFSR » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:02 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, after a marriage into the Samanid (northern Persian) dynasty and a few murders of successors, I successfully forced my claim on Northern Persia, as well as defeating a civil war; though, it was exhausting. Only to find that I still don't have enough de jure territory to form the Persian Empire, and I sure as hell don't want to challenge the Abbasids for it; so I guess I need to wait for them to implode or something, because they are fucking strong.

Map: http://i.imgur.com/qtckYF1.png

Wait for a Succession crisis, Independence Revolt, or Decadence revolt. It will come.
In the meantime, prepare.
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But while I'm rebuilding model armies of 4:4:2:1, France will catch me in the rear :'(

Fight France, and I'd expect Austria would do the same.

What Exactly do you mean with 4:4:2:1 (Which is which unit, that is)?

Also, if you can't defeat France and Austria at the same time, you definitely aren't churning out enough troops.


4 Guards: 4 Artillery: 2 Dragoons: 1 Engineer

I've just escaped a war with Britain and Russia, so I only have a line of 30-stacks from the North Sea to Switzerland facing the Netherlands, Belgium, and France. My three 30-stacks stationed in East Prussia have been destroyed, and to this date I've defended my eastern border against Russia with the strength of conscripts alone.

Looking back, I've remembered that my relations are too high with Austria to wage war. Repeatedly Schlieffening France gets boring after a while. At the same time, I've landed hundreds of thousands of troops on British soil, and marched to St. Petersburg.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:11 pm

The SFSR wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Wait for a Succession crisis, Independence Revolt, or Decadence revolt. It will come.
In the meantime, prepare.

What Exactly do you mean with 4:4:2:1 (Which is which unit, that is)?

Also, if you can't defeat France and Austria at the same time, you definitely aren't churning out enough troops.


4 Guards: 4 Artillery: 2 Dragoons: 1 Engineer

I've just escaped a war with Britain and Russia, so I only have a line of 30-stacks from the North Sea to Switzerland facing the Netherlands, Belgium, and France. My three 30-stacks stationed in East Prussia have been destroyed, and to this date I've defended my eastern border against Russia with the strength of conscripts alone.

Looking back, I've remembered that my relations are too high with Austria to wage war. Repeatedly Schlieffening France gets boring after a while. At the same time, I've landed hundreds of thousands of troops on British soil, and marched to St. Petersburg.

Are you playing Vanilla?
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Postby The SFSR » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:23 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
The SFSR wrote:
4 Guards: 4 Artillery: 2 Dragoons: 1 Engineer

I've just escaped a war with Britain and Russia, so I only have a line of 30-stacks from the North Sea to Switzerland facing the Netherlands, Belgium, and France. My three 30-stacks stationed in East Prussia have been destroyed, and to this date I've defended my eastern border against Russia with the strength of conscripts alone.

Looking back, I've remembered that my relations are too high with Austria to wage war. Repeatedly Schlieffening France gets boring after a while. At the same time, I've landed hundreds of thousands of troops on British soil, and marched to St. Petersburg.

Are you playing Vanilla?


Indeed, AHD. I guess I forgot to mention it since I had this one long post that timed out by accident.

Vanilla has a United Baltics thing as well though.
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:25 pm

Well, time to stay away from the CK2 forums.
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