Paradox Games II

[Transoxthraxia]

Not sure how many of you have played the 650 B.C mod for EU3, but this was my Syracuse start. From one province to the civilized world, that was pretty damn impressive. Note that the time is in Julian, not Gregorian, the game starts in 107 AUC, not 650 B.C.

[Wolfenium]

Not sure how many of you have played the 650 B.C mod for EU3, but this was my Syracuse start. From one province to the civilized world, that was pretty damn impressive. Note that the time is in Julian, not Gregorian, the game starts in 107 AUC, not 650 B.C.

Unimpressive. You haven't taken your Greek homeland yet. (Just kidding. I'm just curious why Greece is still divided into city-states and not part of Syracuse)

[Bralia]

Hey guys,I have been playing EU4 for like 300 hours and I want to try Victoria II,any tips for new players,and how to adapt to all these political things,also,what country is good for starters?

France. In addition to the sphering game and warfare that Jonathan mentioned, France is in a prime position to get a serious edge in the colonization of Africa. Prussia is more designed to be a war-mongering nation, whereas France is a jack-of-all-trades.

[Transoxthraxia]

Not sure how many of you have played the 650 B.C mod for EU3, but this was my Syracuse start. From one province to the civilized world, that was pretty damn impressive. Note that the time is in Julian, not Gregorian, the game starts in 107 AUC, not 650 B.C.

Unimpressive. You haven't taken your Greek homeland yet. (Just kidding. I'm just curious why Greece is still divided into city-states and not part of Syracuse)

Ah, forgot to show the diplomatic map. I left the Greeks with vassal self-rulership just in an RP perspective, and I wanted to experiment with vassals, really. The same is with the Carthaginian states. Of course, I can show a diplomatic map to prove it if you so desire. They make up a powerful army when combined, independent of my command, too.

Edit: other vassals include the two three Arab states, the four kingdoms in Central Asia excepting the Scythians, that OPM persian state, and the western half of independent India.

[Wolfenium]

Unimpressive. You haven't taken your Greek homeland yet. (Just kidding. I'm just curious why Greece is still divided into city-states and not part of Syracuse)

Ah, forgot to show the diplomatic map. I left the Greeks with vassal self-rulership just in an RP perspective, and I wanted to experiment with vassals, really. The same is with the Carthaginian states. Of course, I can show a diplomatic map to prove it if you so desire. They make up a powerful army when combined, independent of my command, too.

Edit: other vassals include the two three Arab states, the four kingdoms in Central Asia excepting the Scythians, that OPM persian state, and the western half of independent India.

Ah. Well, is it possible to diplo-annex them, if you've wanted to?

[Transoxthraxia]

Ah, forgot to show the diplomatic map. I left the Greeks with vassal self-rulership just in an RP perspective, and I wanted to experiment with vassals, really. The same is with the Carthaginian states. Of course, I can show a diplomatic map to prove it if you so desire. They make up a powerful army when combined, independent of my command, too.

Edit: other vassals include the two three Arab states, the four kingdoms in Central Asia excepting the Scythians, that OPM persian state, and the western half of independent India.

Ah. Well, is it possible to diplo-annex them, if you've wanted to?

The Greeks? Yes. I haven't bothered, though, really, because they provide me with ~40,000 troops that are used independently of myself.

[United Marxist Nations]

Do CKII mods (like the GoT one) automatically go into a mod folder, or do I have to manually make a backup of the files?

[Fascist Republic Of Bermuda]

Do CKII mods (like the GoT one) automatically go into a mod folder, or do I have to manually make a backup of the files?

you put them in the mod folder.

[United Marxist Nations]

Do CKII mods (like the GoT one) automatically go into a mod folder, or do I have to manually make a backup of the files?

you put them in the mod folder.

Also, why can't I find the GoT mod on the workshop?

[Katyuscha]

you put them in the mod folder.

Also, why can't I find the GoT mod on the workshop?

I've been wondering the same thing.

[The Jonathanian States]

Also, why can't I find the GoT mod on the workshop?

I've been wondering the same thing.

Too large for the workshop's file size restrictions, I think.

[Katyuscha]

I've been wondering the same thing.

Too large for the workshop's file size restrictions, I think.

Aaaahhhhh.

[Lunas Legion]

Too large for the workshop's file size restrictions, I think.

Aaaahhhhh.

ModDB has it though, so download it off there.

[The Jonathanian States]

Aaaahhhhh.

ModDB has it though, so download it off there.

I just get it from the forums........
They also have their own forums, in addition to the P'dox ones.

[Herargon]

So, after a couple of testing:

1) Fuck, craftsmen help you industrialise quickly - They just fucking pour money into buildings. Might need to stop that from happening pre-Socialism and limit it a bit post-Socialism as not to make the system completely OP.

2) No soviets being created, just standard factories. So all that money ends up in Capitalist pockets.

I have read your previous post. Good to know you've changed those folders.

Now to comment to this post:

1) is pretty logical. Socialist and communist party members - up to nowadays - put all their money in the party. This happens IRL. About that money, well.. Fast industrialisation, that sounds like Stalinism to me

2) how do you mean?

[Herargon]

Also, you could just lower the '#if no coal then at 75% efficiency' down to something like 50% or even lower.. Modern communism - especially stalinism - heavily depends on industrialisation. Also, this might lower the rate of money being earned by them and make it less OP.

Another way is to lower the output, I'd guess. Same reasons.

[Glasgia]

Stalinism isn't Communism, it's a form of State Capitalism - Though, in this it would be represented by "Planned Economy". I'm trying to represent real Socialism, e.g. the Paris Commune, in which the workers actually own the means of production as opposed to bureaucratic state ownership as in Stalinism.

Anyway, 2), the "soviets" are my modified factories - The ones edited to make sure craftsmen profit from them. At the moment, craftsmen can build factories but those factories will always be owned by Capitalists,

[Lunas Legion]

Stalinism isn't Communism, it's a form of State Capitalism - Though, in this it would be represented by "Planned Economy". I'm trying to represent real Socialism, e.g. the Paris Commune, in which the workers actually own the means of production as opposed to bureaucratic state ownership as in Stalinism.

Anyway, 2), the "soviets" are my modified factories - The ones edited to make sure craftsmen profit from them. At the moment, craftsmen can build factories but those factories will always be owned by Capitalists,

Maybe modify it so that craftsmen can only build soviets? That way they won't build factories, so in theory all the money from the soviet should go to them. Or you might need to modify the code that gives the capitalists money from factories and change it so that soviets give money to craftsmen.

[The Jonathanian States]

Stalinism isn't Communism, it's a form of State Capitalism - Though, in this it would be represented by "Planned Economy". I'm trying to represent real Socialism, e.g. the Paris Commune, in which the workers actually own the means of production as opposed to bureaucratic state ownership as in Stalinism.

Anyway, 2), the "soviets" are my modified factories - The ones edited to make sure craftsmen profit from them. At the moment, craftsmen can build factories but those factories will always be owned by Capitalists,

So, after a couple of testing:

1) Fuck, craftsmen help you industrialise quickly - They just fucking pour money into buildings. Might need to stop that from happening pre-Socialism and limit it a bit post-Socialism as not to make the system completely OP.

2) No soviets being created, just standard factories. So all that money ends up in Capitalist pockets.

I'm not a V2 modder (except for a few really minor tweaks in the files) so I don't know if that works, but maybe you could create a modifier that would be triggered by there being a socialist government/ruling-party.
Then, that modifier reduces the (chance for the) creation of normal factories, and possibly raises the Soviets.

EDIT:
Or did I misunderstand what you mean?

[Czechanada]

In my latest Europa Universalis IV game as Byzantium, I managed to pull off Westernization.

Does anyone know if it is possible to switch to Western military units instead of my current Eastern ones?

[Herargon]

Stalinism isn't Communism, it's a form of State Capitalism - Though, in this it would be represented by "Planned Economy". I'm trying to represent real Socialism, e.g. the Paris Commune, in which the workers actually own the means of production as opposed to bureaucratic state ownership as in Stalinism.

Anyway, 2), the "soviets" are my modified factories - The ones edited to make sure craftsmen profit from them. At the moment, craftsmen can build factories but those factories will always be owned by Capitalists,

Then you could do Interventionism or Laissez faire - but hold in mind that socialism is also a bit about economical equality.

2) Nice!

[Glasgia]

Stalinism isn't Communism, it's a form of State Capitalism - Though, in this it would be represented by "Planned Economy". I'm trying to represent real Socialism, e.g. the Paris Commune, in which the workers actually own the means of production as opposed to bureaucratic state ownership as in Stalinism.

Anyway, 2), the "soviets" are my modified factories - The ones edited to make sure craftsmen profit from them. At the moment, craftsmen can build factories but those factories will always be owned by Capitalists,

Maybe modify it so that craftsmen can only build soviets? That way they won't build factories, so in theory all the money from the soviet should go to them. Or you might need to modify the code that gives the capitalists money from factories and change it so that soviets give money to craftsmen.

Stalinism isn't Communism, it's a form of State Capitalism - Though, in this it would be represented by "Planned Economy". I'm trying to represent real Socialism, e.g. the Paris Commune, in which the workers actually own the means of production as opposed to bureaucratic state ownership as in Stalinism.

Anyway, 2), the "soviets" are my modified factories - The ones edited to make sure craftsmen profit from them. At the moment, craftsmen can build factories but those factories will always be owned by Capitalists,

I'm not a V2 modder (except for a few really minor tweaks in the files) so I don't know if that works, but maybe you could create a modifier that would be triggered by there being a socialist government/ruling-party.
Then, that modifier reduces the (chance for the) creation of normal factories, and possibly raises the Soviets.

EDIT:
Or did I misunderstand what you mean?

Both good ideas, I'll try messing around with them at some point.

Stalinism isn't Communism, it's a form of State Capitalism - Though, in this it would be represented by "Planned Economy". I'm trying to represent real Socialism, e.g. the Paris Commune, in which the workers actually own the means of production as opposed to bureaucratic state ownership as in Stalinism.

Anyway, 2), the "soviets" are my modified factories - The ones edited to make sure craftsmen profit from them. At the moment, craftsmen can build factories but those factories will always be owned by Capitalists,

Then you could do Interventionism or Laissez faire - but hold in mind that socialism is also a bit about economical equality.

2) Nice!

If you looked at the trigger modifiers for my event, I'm planning to introduce a new economic policy called "Socialism" or "Marxism" or preferably something else which won't piss off Marxist-Leninists...

[United Marxist Nations]

You guys were saying something?

[Glasgia]

You guys were saying something?

Uh, um, hi there.... Well, any ideas for a name for actual worker-owned and managed economy? We can at least agree that the Soviet economy wasn't directly so.

[Olivaero]

You guys were saying something?

Uh, um, hi there.... Well, any ideas for a name for actual worker-owned and managed economy? We can at least agree that the Soviet economy wasn't directly so.

Socialism might be a good shout, I mean the communism in Victoria 2 is definetly all Stalinism. Also as a side note if you could economically represent Anarchist Catalonia or the Free territory you would be officially my favorite person ever until someone else represents political anarchism as well then they will be .