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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:15 am

This tank is an utter meme. When I can block RELIABLY three volleys from what I'm assuming was the Soviet automatic 37mm on the ass-end of that thing, the tank's too good for the tier.

But then again if it didn't have the MM it does, it'd be utter shit.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:58 pm

So, I bought the captured KV-1, a German-Soviet crew trainer, and also the Excelsior Brit.
The Cap KV-1 has an absurdly high winrate, the Excelsior has an absurdly poor one.

???

Teams just go to shit when I hop in the Excelsior. Timid, blatantly inexperienced, collapse in a heartbeat. The KV-1 doesn't even have PMM.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:45 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:This tank is an utter meme. When I can block RELIABLY three volleys from what I'm assuming was the Soviet automatic 37mm on the ass-end of that thing, the tank's too good for the tier.

But then again if it didn't have the MM it does, it'd be utter shit.

I've got the B2 myself, it is a fun tank to play. Not that the thing is invulnerable, most tank destroyers and tier IV medium tanks are a real threat. You gotta work that armor and know where to aim that peashooter.


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:37 pm

Playing as Tortoise, being the only person to actually try and hold the right-hand lane of an encounter battle, because you know the enemy will come through it. See a Jagdtiger coming round the corner, lock on, fire a snapshot, quickly retreat to better cornershot position.

Realise you accidentally locked onto the Type-59 next to the Jagdtiger you didn't see.
Realise you accidentally snapshotted its ammo rack off.

Neat.
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:35 pm

Speaking of the tortoise...just unlocked it! I aced it for the third time on my 3rd to last game today! wo0t

aced the at-15 again i mean
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:06 pm

I brought the BD1 GBR again. I now remember why I got rid of it.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:16 am

Costa Fierro wrote:I brought the BD1 GBR again. I now remember why I got rid of it.

Not sure why, since it's fucking deadly at Tier V with that 90mm gun.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:19 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:I brought the BD1 GBR again. I now remember why I got rid of it.

Not sure why, since it's fucking deadly at Tier V with that 90mm gun.


I don't have the 90mm. Sold it again because it annoyed the shit out of me and I was loosing money because every single team collapsed within two fucking minutes.

Apparently having a crap win rate because of those fucking morons is my fault and I'm "dragging the team down".
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:47 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Not sure why, since it's fucking deadly at Tier V with that 90mm gun.

I don't have the 90mm. Sold it again because it annoyed the shit out of me and I was loosing money because every single team collapsed within two fucking minutes.

Apparently having a crap win rate because of those fucking morons is my fault and I'm "dragging the team down".

The BDR G1 B, you say? Lovely tank. Played it over a thousand times, merrily wrecking havoc upon hapless hostiles. That 90mm gun is quite the weapon at that tier.


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:36 pm

The Excelsior's 75mm gun is really hard to work with. Poor pen, even when firing skill rounds, really poor accuracy.
It's less accurate than the ISU's BL-10 lolcannon, which says a lot.

The only way I can fight in it, is to get really close, sit very still (because the bloom is catastrophic on moving) and just hope my DPM is enough to out-damage the enemy damaging me. Which usually fails, because 114mm frontal armour isn't much at all, especially when much of Tier V is pushing 110mm 6pdr/57mm and 76mm guns.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:29 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:The Excelsior's 75mm gun is really hard to work with. Poor pen, even when firing skill rounds, really poor accuracy.
It's less accurate than the ISU's BL-10 lolcannon, which says a lot.

The only way I can fight in it, is to get really close, sit very still (because the bloom is catastrophic on moving) and just hope my DPM is enough to out-damage the enemy damaging me. Which usually fails, because 114mm frontal armour isn't much at all, especially when much of Tier V is pushing 110mm 6pdr/57mm and 76mm guns.

At least it's not an overpowered premium tank.


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:44 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:The Excelsior's 75mm gun is really hard to work with. Poor pen, even when firing skill rounds, really poor accuracy.
It's less accurate than the ISU's BL-10 lolcannon, which says a lot.

The only way I can fight in it, is to get really close, sit very still (because the bloom is catastrophic on moving) and just hope my DPM is enough to out-damage the enemy damaging me. Which usually fails, because 114mm frontal armour isn't much at all, especially when much of Tier V is pushing 110mm 6pdr/57mm and 76mm guns.

At least it's not an overpowered premium tank.

Would it have really been overpowered if fitted with the 6pdr gun of the Black Prince and half of Britain's other Tier IV-VI tanks?

In retrospect, almost certainly.

I mean, Britain's desperately lacking in a mid-level 75mm gun between the cack inter/early-war sub-100mm stuff, and the Vickers HV, with a whole 145mm penetration (on par with the PC's Flak/56, I understand - ours is still only 132mm), barely behind the 77mm and early 17pdr at 148 and 150mm respectively. It's why people legitimately think the Cromwell is overpowered because it can penetrate almost all of Tier VII and a chunk of Tier VIII frontally. And it's a speedy medium that can seriously threaten flanks anyway.

There's no 110-135mm penetration ~75mm gun unlike what is available to the Germans, Soviets (ehhhhhh, mostly their 85mm gun tbh) or Americans; the Germans and Americans both have a 128mm 75mm option in the M1A1 and L/40 guns.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:14 pm

Yay!

http://www.wotinfo.net/en/recent?player ... erver=XBOX

I finally broke "good" in my lifetime Efficiency!
:D
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:44 am

Last night, until late, I was averaging 4000 damage in my WT auf IV, and pushing 81% towards my MOEs.
Since late last night I've been averaging between 1500 and 2000 and I've slipped to 77.5%

raeg

A combination of bad games and playing badly later, I've been knocked back all the way to 76%
*sigh*
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:36 pm

So it turns out the WT auf Pz.IV isn't just a great hidden sniper, it's also a fantastic high-speed fire-on-the-move medium tank, too.
Just got a Radley-Walters for 8 kills by zipping around Ardennes and not stopping.
http://imgur.com/a/gmC2Q

I also had this match a while before:
http://imgur.com/hAbwvm3
Where I circlestrafed a T-10 and T28 Prot. In a WT auf Pz.IV.
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Postby Kassaran » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:28 pm

Had a game in my Wolverine. We lost to make a long story short, but at the end I'd pointed out our M8A1 had been more than useless, hiding by the arty or just being in the way of everyone in general.

He thought otherwise. The following is the transcript of the conversation.

[afterchemo yup u r a moron period
afterchemo dedicated sniper my ass only a non serving asshole ould think that
Joston How about you check yourself there pal?
Joston You managed a grand total of 224 dmg for that game.
Joston I checked in over 1k.
Joston I managed to secure three kills for the team, you secured none.
afterchemo and your point is???
Joston I fired a total of 19 times, and hit 12 of those times.
Joston You fired 18, and only hit 6 times.
Joston Your fire was ineffective.
Joston You were ineffective.
Joston My role was defined at the start of the game.
Joston With less than 400hp (360 to be exact), I could not compete with mediums and heavies at top tier.
Joston Which was Tier V.
Joston Instead, I supported my team from behnd as a sniping TD does.
afterchemo so was mine asshole fighting above my wirght dictates im a sniper especially since i have an open turret
afterchemo period asshole
afterchemo u r even dumber then i thought fuck nuts on a random tram when there r asshole like u on said team demands a defenseive game
Joston Your chassis is based on a light tank design. It was built for high speed and manueerability. With a combined 18.77 degrees turret rotation and hull traverse of 36.51, you obtain a total of 55.28 manueverability in a second.
Joston I did not demand a defensive game.
Joston I demanded nothing.
Joston I requested people move back when they were pressured and I was unable to help.
Joston Doing so kept a few of our tanks up longer.
afterchemo annoy a white man again and well i am the guy war gaming warned u of and they will be first to tell u dont piss me off or u will lose
Joston Your contribution to the game was... negligible.
Joston Ha, annoy a white man again?
Joston What does that even mean there bud?
afterchemo k u asked for niglet
Joston You have a grand total of 90 games in your account.
Joston 51 of which are in your M8A1.
afterchemo duh asshole but if u were half as smart as u think u r u would relize im a re roll
Joston Yeah, I figured.
afterchemo u r not to quick
Joston It was easy to guess based on the false sense of superiority.
Joston At least I could do damage in the games I play.
afterchemo firecracker is gonna be thanking you for the clan audit
Joston XD
Joston This clan's practically offline here anyways, I still play the game because I like it.
Joston And I know how to play a wide variety of vehicles.
Joston Be interesting to see what your original account looks like, if it hasn't been banned for harrassment of players in the community.
afterchemo this will be fun noob and compared to me u a fucking noob
Joston Ooh, nice insults there.
Joston This is all being recorded.
afterchemo please record away niglet
Joston Racist slurs too?
Joston Impressive.
afterchemo again u aint to bright
Joston Say what you want, it won't bother me.
Joston I got thick skin to accompany my apparent ignorance.
afterchemo i know u aint smart enough to get annoyed
Joston Keeps me dry when people try to rain on me.
Joston Why are you such an angry person?
Joston I specifically have stated valid reasons for why your performance that game was subpar.
afterchemo k niglet u will now learn your place
Joston You have refused to acknowledge them, and instead have taken to personal attacks in insults.
afterchemo i dont acknolage anything from a niglet
Joston Oh boy... I'm ready.
Joston You just acknowledged everything from me though.
Joston By talking to me, you acknowledge my presence.
Joston Or is there some special exception you're making for me?
Joston Does this make me important to you for some reason?
Joston Oh! Does this make us friends?!
Joston I'm so happy to have another friend!
afterchemo good and dream on niglet also under the law u will lose your account because u commented on me first so i can say anything i want and it is u who will be held responceblt both in game and in criminal law
afterchemo and now u r on all black lists and the minsk server is famous for the viruses and the like on black listed accounts
Joston Oh goody!
Joston Wait, can you tell me my IP too, like, where I'm at right now?
Joston As you've said, I'm rather lacking in the mental department, so getting that down would be good.]
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:55 pm

I got the Waffle, by the way.

*megusta face*

When you're in the Waffle, and you're facing down an IS-7, you charge him, because you figure he only needs two shots. But then he has 41HP left and you're cuddling him. Uh-oh. Let's back up, and shoot him. Uh-oh, bouncing.
Oh shit, now I'm reloading again.

FECK

Oh wait, I'm like 50 tonnes heavier than him.

*stops*
*forwards gear*
*biff*
*enemy knocked out!"
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:48 am

I'm uninstalling World of Tanks. I played twenty three games over the weekend after having the Norwalk Virus, and I lost every. Single. Game. With an average WN8 of 1439. I'm done with WG's stupid, shitty MM system fucking me over despite the fact that I've been a loyal customer over and over again. I get put on the tomato team, get 2,000+ damage, and still die because I'm put on the team that loses. The entire system is fucking rigged. I'm so fucking tired of this shit.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:24 am

So, I decided to run the long 88 on my E-75 from stock. The short 105 doesn't really add anything; bare DPM increase and increased weight.

The long 88 has accuracy 0.34 - except it doesn't. Hanging back on Thiepval, the enemy broke our line with T110E5, E3, O-Ho, Lorr 40t, E-50, T-62A and T54E1.
And I had beautiful side-on shots against all of them, fully in the open.
16 shots fired, five hits.
Feck off.
Not even from bad leading, all went low or high. Less than 400m, too.
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Postby Licana » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:32 am

0.34 x 4 = ~1.36 meters of dispersion, which is fairly significant tbh. 400m is p. long for WoT. :>
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:58 am

Licana wrote:0.34 x 4 = ~1.36 meters of dispersion, which is fairly significant tbh. 400m is p. long for WoT. :>

I know. Traditionally, some rounds actually land within the circle of dispersion, rather than perpetually at its extremes. Three of those hits were against the Lorr when it rushed me at knife-fight range.

This was a 100% BIA crew, too.
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Postby Licana » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:03 am

>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Kollin » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:16 pm

Licana wrote:wew

GG Akula.
Wonder if that happened on stream, i can imagine there was salt.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:24 pm

E-75 was god-damn painful from stock. Didn't run the 88 for long, but after a short while I was getting decent performance out of the short 105. Fitting the L/68 really changes the E-75 into a tank worth running at Tier IX, but it still can't compete in the Tier X space. Maybe the upgraded turret without glaring frontal weakness will help out.

E: oh wow, the top turret gives the L/68 a pretty sweet DPM increase of nearly 300.
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