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Transoxthraxia
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:34 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Waffentraktors have like 10-30mm armour max and can take 3-and-a-bit shots. They don't have gun depression and mobility, except forwards, leaves much to be desired.

I wonder how long it'll take him to notice
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:50 am

Instant?
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Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
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Transoxthraxia
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:10 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Instant?

About my sarcasm?
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Trollgaard » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:00 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:5 heavy tanks at 200m?

Yeah, nah fam. I was trying to outflank the group, but it was west-centre of the map and I don't know the terrain in that area, couldn't find a route. Most of our team, as always, lemming'd down the valley flank and didn't make it back either.

WT IV has decent armour for its tier and its health pool is fairly large. Trade shots with the underpowered Russian heavies and you'd have been fine. Angle your armour

:clap:

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Postby Lubyak » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:49 am

Man these are some really good missions.

Farm up the Papa Pappas and Equal Speed Charlie Londons everyone.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:14 am

It's dawned on me why the Tortoise is so awful to play, and why the community more or less agrees (by having a sub-50% average WR, with garbage damage, kills, time alive and average xp).

It's situational, and must be backed up by cooperative teammates.
You have to hope the lane you move to is the one the enemy comes down. If it's not, you can't move to the other lane, because your team will just push it to the base by the time you get there. There's no point staying in the lane you're in, because you're just following much faster vehicles as they get all the kills before you even have eyes on.

It works great in close quarters if you can hide that cupola, but only if your team is backing you up. And they won't play the objective, even in Encounter. So you think you've got two heavies and a medium backing you up in the objective, and it turns out the two heavies pissed off somewhere else, so you're left inside the objective fending off two heavy TDs and two heavy tanks, and invariably, you lose the game.

My own winrate in the Tortoise is piss-poor, an abysmal 44% with a -15 win difference. And there's no point in trying to improve it, because that -15 difference always balances out to remain completely static. You'll have one amazing game, two meh games, and five really bad games, and the wins will randomise to be 50/50 so you can't improve.

E: Guess on which day I decided to start playing the Tortoise.
http://www.wotinfo.net/en/trend?playeri ... erver=XBOX

Cancel that, I've had a couple of good games (still not enough to salvage the WR) and that's apparently brought my dailys up to what I'd expect as of late.
That said, try and spot when I unlocked the 120mm AT gun.
http://www.wotinfo.net/en/vehicles_exte ... nkid=52561
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:15 am

Tortoise is pretty decent in top configuration. It's acceleration is meh but once you get to the top speed it's a real nimble tank. Use it's speed and alpha to devastate enemies while making sure you don't take any hits. Your armour is shit for tier V let alone IX.

Definitely carry material. You might just not understand how to use the tank.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:30 am

Are you messing with me again? It's got a top speed of 22kph and the armour's impressive if you can hide the weakpoints. Almost no guns can get through you frontall, you have to angle the driver's front plate (inexplicably thinner than the identical plate on the other side) and hide the loader cupola; commander's hard enough to hit already.

It is hamstrung compared to the earlier AT-15, which could use its gun arc to hide the loader cupola around both right-handed and left-handed corners and cover. The Tortoise does not have the gun arc to exploit this, and cannot peek around left-handed cover, as the cupola is directly in line with the gun at maximum traverse.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:14 pm

The more I watch Jingles the more I prefer him over QB.

He's fucking hilarious.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby North Arkana » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:43 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:The more I watch Jingles the more I prefer him over QB.

He's fucking hilarious.

He also has a guaranteed at least one mistake in wording per video.
"I don't know everything, just the things I know"

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:47 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:The more I watch Jingles the more I prefer him over QB.

He's fucking hilarious.

He also has a guaranteed at least one mistake in wording per video.

I've noticed this, actually. My favourite part, though, is his cackle.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby North Arkana » Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:57 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
North Arkana wrote:He also has a guaranteed at least one mistake in wording per video.

I've noticed this, actually. My favourite part, though, is his cackle.

I've had the fortune of being featured on his channel :P
https://youtu.be/Whi_LkGy_Do?t=12m13s
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Postby United States of PA » Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:59 am

North Arkana wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:The more I watch Jingles the more I prefer him over QB.

He's fucking hilarious.

He also has a guaranteed at least one mistake in wording per video.



+ otherwise being incredibly incorrect on about everything.
In other words, conservatives are generous with their own money, and liberals are generous with other peoples money.
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"See, it doesn't matter how many people you have, how old your civilization is, or any such tripe. We're still the by-God US of A and we will seriously bitch slap you so hard your ancestors going back millenia will feel it if you piss us off."

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:40 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:The more I watch Jingles the more I prefer him over QB.

He's fucking hilarious.

It's our insidious plot to retake the colonies through Cultural Britishness.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:56 pm

Met an absolute little bitch in WoT tonight.

O-Ho that me in a Conq, Panther 88 and arty were wailing on, mostly beyond visual range. Eventually, knocked him down to no health and damaged his ammo.
So the fucker drowned himself.

I suspect he's an XBone user, because I can't report him for unsporting conduct.

Then I sent him a message calling him out, and he's boasting that I "couldn't kill him".
Fucking lol, jfc
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Postby Licana » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:30 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Met an absolute little bitch in WoT tonight.

O-Ho that me in a Conq, Panther 88 and arty were wailing on, mostly beyond visual range. Eventually, knocked him down to no health and damaged his ammo.
So the fucker drowned himself.

I suspect he's an XBone user, because I can't report him for unsporting conduct.

Then I sent him a message calling him out, and he's boasting that I "couldn't kill him".
Fucking lol, jfc


My response to people doing that was usually "now do what you do best and kill yourself irl."
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So was the M-16.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:46 pm

Licana wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Met an absolute little bitch in WoT tonight.

O-Ho that me in a Conq, Panther 88 and arty were wailing on, mostly beyond visual range. Eventually, knocked him down to no health and damaged his ammo.
So the fucker drowned himself.

I suspect he's an XBone user, because I can't report him for unsporting conduct.

Then I sent him a message calling him out, and he's boasting that I "couldn't kill him".
Fucking lol, jfc


My response to people doing that was usually "now do what you do best and kill yourself irl."

Despite his own use of "vulgar language", would not be surprised if he reported my message in spite.

Some shallow twat-ends you find on Xbox LIVE, I tell yer now.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:37 am

I have not hated artillery more than the last week or so.

I've taken to posting my "killed by artillery" postgames in the official forum's artillery thread, since almost all of them are me at the bottom of the leaderboard, because I've been smashed by skycancer so early in the game that often, I've fired one or zero shots.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:29 pm

I can't spread cancer. I usually end up hitting the bit of land where the enemy was two seconds previously.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:45 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:I can't spread cancer. I usually end up hitting the bit of land where the enemy was two seconds previously.

Good.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:02 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:I can't spread cancer. I usually end up hitting the bit of land where the enemy was two seconds previously.

Good.


Not really. The idea is to hit things, not hit close to where they were two seconds ago. Waste of ammunition.

I sometimes just wait until they get close enough that I can fire over open sights or are close enough that it doesn't take 15 seconds to see where it lands.
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Postby Trollgaard » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:09 am

Fuck, what a shitty hour and a half session of tanks. Teams were a bit below poor, but not terrible, but rng was just awful. I quit when I did 0 damage in my tiger P while bounces off tier 6 heavies 3 times. Of course I got nailed by an is 2, a kv 2, and a arty with a 45 second span. Fucking bull. There's no goddamn way I should bounce off a fat ass kv 2.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:33 am

My yesterday was awful. I was 3 for 15 wins in the Centurion 7. I just kept getting put in Tier X matches, usually heavily Tier X matches, whether Tier IX or X, and my team would just collapse every time.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:07 am

>67hp left in AMX 50 100
>1 enemy medium left on far side of the map
>start capping
>see no-one is near last enemy, 40 cap points
"I'll just reset, just so they can definitely kill him before cap
>1 millisecond before I leave cap zone
"Xx M3LI554 xX - mangusta rossa [Pershing]"



FFFFUUUUUU


til, ST-I >> AMX 50 100

Had a fairly gripping endgame between me on 311hp and him on full-health. I was betrayed at the end by super-bouncy suspension and absurdly poor gun depression on a ridge. I dealt no damage to him.
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Postby Kollin » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:13 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Are you messing with me again? It's got a top speed of 22kph and the armour's impressive if you can hide the weakpoints. Almost no guns can get through you frontall, you have to angle the driver's front plate (inexplicably thinner than the identical plate on the other side) and hide the loader cupola; commander's hard enough to hit already.

It is hamstrung compared to the earlier AT-15, which could use its gun arc to hide the loader cupola around both right-handed and left-handed corners and cover. The Tortoise does not have the gun arc to exploit this, and cannot peek around left-handed cover, as the cupola is directly in line with the gun at maximum traverse.

Except the armor is still bad even if you hide weakspots, because any flat surface is a weakspot. Literally any equal tier HT or TD can pen those. Most of the MT's can too, those that can't are often know for spamming for the 2 key anyway.

So i'm not really sure how 'Almost no guns' equates to pretty much every equal tier tank, and of course, every higher tier tank. The Tort, and Brit TDs like it, get steel wall games for one reason. Sadly, it's not even pubbie ignorance. It's actually RNG, who in these scenarios trollishly deviates appropriately aimed shells set to pen, to an autobounce zone. Or, if that's too difficult, just low rolls the fuck out of the pen.

The armor of that TD line is actually quite awful, when you realize most of the front is flat, barely angled, and at it's best at tier 9, is only 223mm thick. Which is nice, again until you notice its essentially flat.
Oh, or that i think all of them, except maybe the Tort, can always be penned by shooting through the gun mantlet. Which serves us the purpose of damaging your tank, your gun, and killing a crew member, probably the gunner.

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