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by Estovakiva » Thu May 08, 2014 2:35 pm
by Licana » Thu May 08, 2014 2:36 pm
Consortium of Manchukuo wrote: How should the new Char 2CBis be balanced then? I mean it would have a lower height than the KV-2 to be sure, but it would have lower armor and probably lower speed unless if Wargaming discovered a new, upgraded engine system for it. Although it looks like somebody has proposed a 1,100 horsepower engine so that would probably make it work. It would be much faster than the KV-2, with less armor, and probably a limited traverse turret sort of like the T28 prototype.
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by The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 08, 2014 2:59 pm
by Consortium of Manchukuo » Thu May 08, 2014 3:44 pm
Licana wrote:Consortium of Manchukuo wrote: How should the new Char 2CBis be balanced then? I mean it would have a lower height than the KV-2 to be sure, but it would have lower armor and probably lower speed unless if Wargaming discovered a new, upgraded engine system for it. Although it looks like somebody has proposed a 1,100 horsepower engine so that would probably make it work. It would be much faster than the KV-2, with less armor, and probably a limited traverse turret sort of like the T28 prototype.
The problem is it's really hard to balance something like that. The lack of armour and mobility suddenly becomes highly irrelevant when you can one-shot anything you face, essentially using that fear factor as your protection. You can see this with the KV-2 and FV 215 183 already.
The only thing I can think of would be to give it no AP/HEAT shells and make the HE shells something like 20-30mm pen so that you can't reliably get those penetration kills like a KV-2 can, even though you'll probably still be able to one-shot anything shy of a T5 heavy due to the splash power of the shells alone (might need to reduce that).
Also 9.1 patch notes are here.
by Kassaran » Thu May 08, 2014 3:59 pm
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:Tristan noticed footsteps behind him and looked there, only to see Eric approaching and then pointing his sword at the girl. He just blinked a few times at this before speaking.
"Put that down, Mr. Eric." He said. "She's obviously not a chicken."
by Vareiln » Thu May 08, 2014 7:20 pm
by Hurdegaryp » Fri May 09, 2014 5:19 am
Kassaran wrote:I'm honestly kind of upset about the 105mm nerfs, I thought the T-29 to be a remarkably well-put tank in a battle. If anything they needed to leave the mechanics of most of the German and American tanks alone as they were tolerable as was. With the new nerfs to American maneuverability, I'm curious to see how this goes over given how the Hellcat's view range was what annoyed most people not the maneuverability. I was perfectly fine facing off against the little shits in my M6 and T29 and while yes they could get the drop on me, I've recently found that the reason most pubbies never get good is because they forget they can see what types of tanks they are up against and thus should be looking to engage, derp, or destroy (fight with only in the hopes of receiving additional support, destroy simply because one can do so easily, or eliminate at all costs due to it's significant threat it can pose).
In all respects though, I'm sad there is no re-balancing occurring for the KV-1S and the T-150 given that they are the roflstompers for their tier. On top of that, what of the IS, for it has a gun that can makes me cringe in fear. Somehow whenever facing an IS, I always get outdone in reload time, aim time, and damage output. Rare is it for me to get the average damage roll for any of my American tanks, hence again why I believe there is a strong Russian bias.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by Kassaran » Fri May 09, 2014 7:28 am
Hurdegaryp wrote:Kassaran wrote:I'm honestly kind of upset about the 105mm nerfs, I thought the T-29 to be a remarkably well-put tank in a battle. If anything they needed to leave the mechanics of most of the German and American tanks alone as they were tolerable as was. With the new nerfs to American maneuverability, I'm curious to see how this goes over given how the Hellcat's view range was what annoyed most people not the maneuverability. I was perfectly fine facing off against the little shits in my M6 and T29 and while yes they could get the drop on me, I've recently found that the reason most pubbies never get good is because they forget they can see what types of tanks they are up against and thus should be looking to engage, derp, or destroy (fight with only in the hopes of receiving additional support, destroy simply because one can do so easily, or eliminate at all costs due to it's significant threat it can pose).
In all respects though, I'm sad there is no re-balancing occurring for the KV-1S and the T-150 given that they are the roflstompers for their tier. On top of that, what of the IS, for it has a gun that can makes me cringe in fear. Somehow whenever facing an IS, I always get outdone in reload time, aim time, and damage output. Rare is it for me to get the average damage roll for any of my American tanks, hence again why I believe there is a strong Russian bias.
You may be more eloquent than the average wehraboo, but I see the song remains the same. Never bothered to actually play any Russian vehicles, hm?
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:Tristan noticed footsteps behind him and looked there, only to see Eric approaching and then pointing his sword at the girl. He just blinked a few times at this before speaking.
"Put that down, Mr. Eric." He said. "She's obviously not a chicken."
by Iander » Fri May 09, 2014 7:41 am
Goram wrote:Iander wrote:So, zombies once again. I don't know about you guys, but I feel like just shooting everybody..
Iander, when do you not feel like shooting everybody?
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by Consortium of Manchukuo » Fri May 09, 2014 11:00 am
Kassaran wrote:Hurdegaryp wrote:You may be more eloquent than the average wehraboo, but I see the song remains the same. Never bothered to actually play any Russian vehicles, hm?
No, mostly for the fact that I face enough to see their capabilities in combat against an opposing force. I have played any tanks of Russian design, they were the T-127, BT-7, & the A-20, the latter of which I hated -no, despised actually- and that's where I stopped, though that is simply until I pool together enough resources and willpower to play the little bastard again to jump into the Russian Medium line.
by Hurdegaryp » Fri May 09, 2014 11:02 am
Consortium of Manchukuo wrote:Kassaran wrote:No, mostly for the fact that I face enough to see their capabilities in combat against an opposing force. I have played any tanks of Russian design, they were the T-127, BT-7, & the A-20, the latter of which I hated -no, despised actually- and that's where I stopped, though that is simply until I pool together enough resources and willpower to play the little bastard again to jump into the Russian Medium line.
T-34 is worth the A-20's horror in my opinion, it is my best performing tank(That I play a lot) with a 58 percent win rate. The A-20 could be a decent tank, just it has 330 meters of view range so you can't scout with it like you're supposed to. And little firepower. And no armor. All it has is mobility and that just isn't enough.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by Consortium of Manchukuo » Fri May 09, 2014 11:08 am
Hurdegaryp wrote:Consortium of Manchukuo wrote:T-34 is worth the A-20's horror in my opinion, it is my best performing tank(That I play a lot) with a 58 percent win rate. The A-20 could be a decent tank, just it has 330 meters of view range so you can't scout with it like you're supposed to. And little firepower. And no armor. All it has is mobility and that just isn't enough.
The T-34 is a fun tank to play, yes. I never played the A-20 myself, I skipped it with the magical power of free XP.
by Tagmatium » Fri May 09, 2014 11:24 am
Hurdegaryp wrote:Kassaran wrote:I'm honestly kind of upset about the 105mm nerfs, I thought the T-29 to be a remarkably well-put tank in a battle. If anything they needed to leave the mechanics of most of the German and American tanks alone as they were tolerable as was. With the new nerfs to American maneuverability, I'm curious to see how this goes over given how the Hellcat's view range was what annoyed most people not the maneuverability. I was perfectly fine facing off against the little shits in my M6 and T29 and while yes they could get the drop on me, I've recently found that the reason most pubbies never get good is because they forget they can see what types of tanks they are up against and thus should be looking to engage, derp, or destroy (fight with only in the hopes of receiving additional support, destroy simply because one can do so easily, or eliminate at all costs due to it's significant threat it can pose).
In all respects though, I'm sad there is no re-balancing occurring for the KV-1S and the T-150 given that they are the roflstompers for their tier. On top of that, what of the IS, for it has a gun that can makes me cringe in fear. Somehow whenever facing an IS, I always get outdone in reload time, aim time, and damage output. Rare is it for me to get the average damage roll for any of my American tanks, hence again why I believe there is a strong Russian bias.
You may be more eloquent than the average wehraboo, but I see the song remains the same. Never bothered to actually play any Russian vehicles, hm?
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by Hurdegaryp » Fri May 09, 2014 11:39 am
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by Tagmatium » Fri May 09, 2014 11:50 am
Hurdegaryp wrote:Tagmatium wrote:Hurde, you know the KV-1S is OP.
Everyone knows it is OP.
Even WG, even though they refuse to do anything about it.
Personally I prefer the T-150, because that beast has a winning combination of an accurate gun with decent penetration, proper armour protection and rugged good looks.
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by Graditora » Fri May 09, 2014 11:53 am
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by Tagmatium » Fri May 09, 2014 12:13 pm
North Calaveras wrote:Tagmatium, it was never about pie...
by Vareiln » Fri May 09, 2014 1:47 pm
Consortium of Manchukuo wrote:Hurdegaryp wrote:The T-34 is a fun tank to play, yes. I never played the A-20 myself, I skipped it with the magical power of free XP.
I wanted to try one of the tier 4 scouts, since I really enjoying scouting in my AMX 13 90. However, I did not appropriately calculate the view range differentials. It seemed pretty good when I first started out too, since in one of the first battles I destroyed a Rhm.-Borsig Waffenträger, did a fair amount of assistance regarding spotting, took out a GW Tiger, and played a vital role in assisting in the destruction of an enemy Tiger. But that was an outlier. Still, the M5 Stuart seems like a pretty good light tank, with its much longer view range and pretty capable howitzer. I haven't gotten scout mm in it though which is a bit disappointing; apparently they changed it a bit ago and I didn't see that note. So not all of the tier 4s LTs are bad. The gun depression is so awesome after playing French tanks with our standard 5-6 degrees of gun depression and terrible turret armor.
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by Consortium of Manchukuo » Fri May 09, 2014 9:56 pm
Oaledonia wrote:Any possible indicator as to when WoWS will be out? I want Kancolle mods.
by Hurdegaryp » Sat May 10, 2014 2:59 am
Vareiln wrote:So I have a Centurion now. I like the feel of the tank, but oh dear gods the stock gun is a nightmare when you get stuck in a tier IX or X game.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by Tagmatium » Sun May 11, 2014 2:31 pm
North Calaveras wrote:Tagmatium, it was never about pie...
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