Frozen Thread

[Giovenith]

How is this historical whatsoever?
I mean, I am sure at one point in time a Princess annoying asked her older sister if she wanted to build a snowman, but that isn't history.

It deals with European history between the Napoleonic Wars and World War I.

No. It. Does. Not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_(2013_film) Go through this page, all of it. Does it say anything anywhere about the movie being a giant historical allegory?

[Verdo-Releignia]

How is this historical whatsoever?
I mean, I am sure at one point in time a Princess annoying asked her older sister if she wanted to build a snowman, but that isn't history.

It deals with European history between the Napoleonic Wars and World War I.

I see no guns!
I see no executions, no Revolutionaries charging through the streets intent on the destruction of the royal family and a uprising of the lower classes. There isn't any political thought further than "Jokes on you, I am going to kill your ass and take over the Kingdom".

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

It deals with European history between the Napoleonic Wars and World War I.

No. It. Does. Not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_(2013_film) Go through this page, all of it. Does it say anything anywhere about the movie being a giant historical allegory?

I thoroughly analyzed it.

[Giovenith]

No. It. Does. Not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_(2013_film) Go through this page, all of it. Does it say anything anywhere about the movie being a giant historical allegory?

I thoroughly analyzed it.

Personal analysis =/= Author intent

Go through the Wikipedia page. Does it say, "This is an allegory for Napoleon and WWI," or does it say, "This is a story based on an Andersen fairy tale"?

[Kargintina]

No. It. Does. Not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_(2013_film) Go through this page, all of it. Does it say anything anywhere about the movie being a giant historical allegory?

I thoroughly analyzed it.

Ohh just Let it go

[ImperialItaly]

How is this historical whatsoever?
I mean, I am sure at one point in time a Princess annoying asked her older sister if she wanted to build a snowman, but that isn't history.

It deals with European history between the Napoleonic Wars and World War I.

I don't see any colonialism(google Scramble for Africa) . Also, in the original story was from Denmark( The Snow Queen) right after Napoleon so it can't be that accurate. On top of that they changed it so much its hardly there (the original story). Educate yourself about the original story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen

[Illan]

I thoroughly analyzed it.

Ohh just Let it go

This guy.

[Verdo-Releignia]

No. It. Does. Not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_(2013_film) Go through this page, all of it. Does it say anything anywhere about the movie being a giant historical allegory?

I thoroughly analyzed it.

And what is your outcome?
Jack diddly squat.

[ImperialItaly]

I thoroughly analyzed it.

And what is your outcome?
Jack diddly squat.

I see his outcome! Logical fallacies (lots)!

[Kargintina]

Ohh just Let it go

This guy.

[TotallyNotEvilLand]

Chaps, I would suggest dropping this thread entirely. The whole thing has been dominated with arguments with someone who is very clearly either fucking with you (And if he is, bravo to him.) or someone who obviously isn't mentally sound. Arguing with this guy is like trying to rocket-jump. It won't work and you'll probably lose your legs.
EDIT: Also, if you do really have Asperger's Syndrome, RSSS, here's a little newsflash from a fellow 'Spergian.

It's no excuse for being a twit.

[Todlichebujoku]

Chaps, I would suggest dropping this thread entirely.

It's funny how some distance
Makes everything seem small

Let it go.. Let it go...
Turn away and slam the door

Maybe not exactly the way the song goes, but relevant to the situation.

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

I thoroughly analyzed it.

Personal analysis =/= Author intent

Go through the Wikipedia page. Does it say, "This is an allegory for Napoleon and WWI," or does it say, "This is a story based on an Andersen fairy tale"?

It says the latter.

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

I thoroughly analyzed it.

And what is your outcome?
Jack diddly squat.

It deals with European homeland issues during that time period.

[Illan]

And what is your outcome?
Jack diddly squat.

It deals with European homeland issues during that time period.

Do we even know for sure it's in Europe and not in Disney-fairy tale continent or something of the like?

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

It deals with European homeland issues during that time period.

Do we even know for sure it's in Europe and not in Disney-fairy tale continent or something of the like?

We know for sure.

[Darwinish Brentsylvania]

Do we even know for sure it's in Europe and not in Disney-fairy tale continent or something of the like?

We know for sure.

No we don't.

[Giovenith]

Personal analysis =/= Author intent

Go through the Wikipedia page. Does it say, "This is an allegory for Napoleon and WWI," or does it say, "This is a story based on an Andersen fairy tale"?

It says the latter.

So what does that say about your claim?

[Verdo-Releignia]

And what is your outcome?
Jack diddly squat.

It deals with European homeland issues during that time period.

Wha-
Where does i-
What are you loo-
...
BS.

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

It says the latter.

So what does that say about your claim?

I still could be right.

[Giovenith]

So what does that say about your claim?

I still could be right.

No, RSSS, you could not be. You are not right. You are pulling ideas out of your own imagination and insisting that if you just repeat your claim enough times, maybe that will somehow make it true. But that is not how reality works.

[Gaelic Celtia]

No.

Frozen has become a classic like Casablanca.

I stopped right here. After reading this I couldnt take anything said afterwords the least bit seriously.

[Herrebrugh]

So what does that say about your claim?

I still could be right.

Sure you could. Just as I could be right when I say that the sky is simple a huge globular LCD-screen. The chance is absurdly small, but why'd that stop anyone, right?

[Lazssia]

Are we still spouting bullpucky analogies instead actually talking about the film?

[Oceasia]

Imagine this:

Dame Joan Sutherland as Elsa
Luciano Pavarotti as Kristoff
Marilyn Horne as Anna
Samuel Ramey as Hans

I would almost absolve this movie of its mediocrity! Only problem is who would play Olaf...

I would love to see Thomas Kretschmann play Olaf. He played Fegelein in Downfall.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!