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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:22 pm

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Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Actually, I searched it up, and it appears there is no article or evidence that Weselton is Germany. In the Disney Wiki, it says their location is Germany. So what? The movie appears to take place in the 1830s with the technology, so here's Germany in 1830(between 1830 and 1848)
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We can probably assume that the nation is off the coast of Germany, or located on the Elbe, so this leaves us with more than half a dozen possibilities. It is also an imaginary country, so we can't be sure where it is.

Disney Wiki is probably true.

Yes, but it doesn't say it is Germany, it was a German City-State, and it's leader wasn't Kaiser Wilhelm II.

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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:25 pm

Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:
Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Disney Wiki is probably true.

Yes, but it doesn't say it is Germany, it was a German City-State, and it's leader wasn't Kaiser Wilhelm II.

And the Wiki said the Duke of Weselton is not a monarch. He's just a noble from there.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:27 pm

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Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Yes, but it doesn't say it is Germany, it was a German City-State, and it's leader wasn't Kaiser Wilhelm II.

And the Wiki said the Duke of Weselton is not a monarch. He's just a noble from there.


Yes if he was intended to be the monarch he probably would have been the Archduke or Grand Duke of Weselton. And for all we know Weselton is a duchy in a greater kingdom. That is how dukes and duchies work. They are seldom independent and when they are they are a Grand Duchy.

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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:30 pm

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Auzkhia wrote:And the Wiki said the Duke of Weselton is not a monarch. He's just a noble from there.


Yes if he was intended to be the monarch he probably would have been the Archduke or Grand Duke of Weselton. And for all we know Weselton is a duchy in a greater kingdom. That is how dukes and duchies work. They are seldom independent and when they are they are a Grand Duchy.

I think it's within a kingdom. He's a high ranking noble who might serve as an official and a diplomat.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:33 pm

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Yes if he was intended to be the monarch he probably would have been the Archduke or Grand Duke of Weselton. And for all we know Weselton is a duchy in a greater kingdom. That is how dukes and duchies work. They are seldom independent and when they are they are a Grand Duchy.

I think it's within a kingdom. He's a high ranking noble who might serve as an official and a diplomat.


Going by how usual titles are I believe you are correct. If he was the sovereign he'd be an Archduke or Grand Duke.

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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:35 pm

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Auzkhia wrote:I think it's within a kingdom. He's a high ranking noble who might serve as an official and a diplomat.


Going by how usual titles are I believe you are correct. If he was the sovereign he'd be an Archduke or Grand Duke.

Archduke was an Austrian Imperial family member. Grand Duke is typically a sovereign.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:38 pm

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Going by how usual titles are I believe you are correct. If he was the sovereign he'd be an Archduke or Grand Duke.

Archduke was an Austrian Imperial family member. Grand Duke is typically a sovereign.


Yes but for all intents and purposes most people associate Archduke with being the sovereign, whether or not it is proper usage or not, which is why I mentioned it.

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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:57 pm

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Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:I really hope that the sequel involves Nazis.


I really hope you're not actually serious.

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Disney Wiki is probably true.

No it isn't. Anyone can edit it. It is not reliable for "facts", it does basic plot points.

I am serious. Bomben auf Arendelle!
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:01 pm

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I really hope you're not actually serious.


No it isn't. Anyone can edit it. It is not reliable for "facts", it does basic plot points.

I am serious. Bomben auf Arendelle!


I honestly cannot tell if you are possed by Satan so badly that you want to see a fictional happy land of rainbows, talking snowmen, and princesses bombed by the nazis or if you are just so hellbent on proving your assorted points that you take this stance.

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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:07 pm

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Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:I am serious. Bomben auf Arendelle!


I honestly cannot tell if you are possed by Satan so badly that you want to see a fictional happy land of rainbows, talking snowmen, and princesses bombed by the nazis or if you are just so hellbent on proving your assorted points that you take this stance.

I am just a history buff. ;)
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:08 pm

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I honestly cannot tell if you are possed by Satan so badly that you want to see a fictional happy land of rainbows, talking snowmen, and princesses bombed by the nazis or if you are just so hellbent on proving your assorted points that you take this stance.

I am just a history buff. ;)


No you're not because none of what you say is factual at all like you make up half of your arguments or it's based on your opinion that has zero relevance to Frozen or history.
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:11 pm

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Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:I am just a history buff. ;)


No you're not because none of what you say is factual at all like you make up half of your arguments.

I love history. I also love to discuss history.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:12 pm

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No you're not because none of what you say is factual at all like you make up half of your arguments.

I love history. I also love to discuss history.


What does that have to do with anything I just said?

Just because you love history and love to discuss history doesn't mean you're a history buff or actually know anything about history.

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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:32 pm

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Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:I love history. I also love to discuss history.


What does that have to do with anything I just said?

Just because you love history and love to discuss history doesn't mean you're a history buff or actually know anything about history.

I know history. I am obsessed with history and Frozen .
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:34 pm

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What does that have to do with anything I just said?

Just because you love history and love to discuss history doesn't mean you're a history buff or actually know anything about history.

I know history. I am obsessed with history and Frozen .


And if you knew either as well as you claimed you'd see why all of your ideas for a sequel or nazis invading Arendelle or anything in Frozen representing actual history is absurd.

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Postby Oceasia » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:45 am

I would hate to see a sequel to Frozen, even though i would still watch it. And RSSS, you seriously should let it go. Arendelle is based on Norway, but it's not Norway. And no, we won't see Hitler invading Arendelle in a sequel, if a sequel is to be made in the first place.
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Postby West Afrika » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:32 am

Why are guys taking this film so seriously? It's literally just a kids movie, with no metaphor AT ALL.
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:42 pm

West Afrika wrote:Why are guys taking this film so seriously? It's literally just a kids movie, with no metaphor AT ALL.

We are just obsessed.
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:43 pm

I wonder what Dr. Mengele would do to Queen Elsa.
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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:44 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:I wonder what Dr. Mengele would do to Queen Elsa.

No one wants to think about that. *shakes head*
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:45 pm

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Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:I wonder what Dr. Mengele would do to Queen Elsa.

No one wants to think about that. *shakes head*

I do wonder though.
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Postby Nation of Fast » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:46 pm

I found something called Hans x Elsa..eh..and Hans x Kristoff...mah Gawd
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Postby New Tyran » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:48 pm

Someone tell me why this show has gained such a large following?

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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:50 pm

Nation of Fast wrote:I found something called Hans x Elsa..eh..and Hans x Kristoff...mah Gawd

Hans X Kristoff. I like that.
New Tyran wrote:Someone tell me why this show has gained such a large following?

Because, it has catchy songs and good characters.
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Postby Mandicoria » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:51 pm

New Tyran wrote:Someone tell me why this show movie has gained such a large following?

Because most critics have given it very positive reviews, and its a Disney Film.
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