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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 9:04 am

This thread is to discuss all things Frozen. I am starting this thread since I am a European history lover who thoroughly analyzed Frozen. Frozen fans and history buffs should get along well here.
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Postby Imperial Soled » Sun May 04, 2014 9:07 am

What's all the fuzz about this movie...?
If you love European history, Frozen is the last place to look. Go with a real history book instead.

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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 9:09 am

Imperial Soled wrote:What's all the fuzz about this movie...?
If you love European history, Frozen is the last place to look. Go with a real history book instead.

I was forced to watch Frozen. I am now obsessed.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun May 04, 2014 10:07 am

I found Frozen to be a dull movie with sub-par songs, bland characters, and gaping plot holes. It was very overrated.

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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 12:02 pm

Frozen will be forever etched in culture. We will probably we talking about it 100 years from now.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun May 04, 2014 12:22 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Frozen will be forever etched in culture. We will probably we talking about it 100 years from now.

:rofl: No.

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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 1:19 pm

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Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Frozen will be forever etched in culture. We will probably we talking about it 100 years from now.

:rofl: No.

Frozen has become a classic like Casablanca.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun May 04, 2014 2:36 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:
Merizoc wrote: :rofl: No.

Frozen has become a classic like Casablanca.

Something that's a few months old can't be a classic. It has to withstand the test of time. LOTR is a classic. The Odyssey is a classic. Frozen is not, and I don't predict it will be.

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Postby Tano » Sun May 04, 2014 2:44 pm

It's another formulaic princess film. I literally predicted the entire plot before I even watched the movie. The songs ranged from meh to crap, and the humour was aimed at little kids (for obvious reasons)

I fail to see why people like it, but hey, who am I to judge what people enjoy?
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 2:56 pm

Tano wrote:It's another formulaic princess film. I literally predicted the entire plot before I even watched the movie. The songs ranged from meh to crap, and the humour was aimed at little kids (for obvious reasons)

I fail to see why people like it, but hey, who am I to judge what people enjoy?

They might like it because they like Europe.
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 2:59 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Frozen has become a classic like Casablanca.

Something that's a few months old can't be a classic. It has to withstand the test of time. LOTR is a classic. The Odyssey is a classic. Frozen is not, and I don't predict it will be.

It is the sixth highest-grossing film of all time. It has grossed more than the original Star Wars. You obviously recognize Star Wars as a classic.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun May 04, 2014 3:08 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Something that's a few months old can't be a classic. It has to withstand the test of time. LOTR is a classic. The Odyssey is a classic. Frozen is not, and I don't predict it will be.

It is the sixth highest-grossing film of all time. It has grossed more than the original Star Wars. You obviously recognize Star Wars as a classic.

That has absolutely nothing to do with whether a film is a classic or not. Avatar, The Avengers, HP 7 pt 2, and Iron Man 3 all grossed higher than Frozen. I liked most of those movies, but they aren't, and won't be classics. And your point about Star Wars is moot, considering, when adjusted for inflation, SW was the third highest grossing film of all time, while Frozen doesn't make top 10.
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 3:24 pm

Does anyone else think that Frozen is secretly about the state of European affairs between the Napoleonic Wars and World War I? I saw this because it shows Germany (Weselton) as the most aggressive nation. The other nations seem to have alliances with each other.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun May 04, 2014 3:59 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Does anyone else think that Frozen is secretly about the state of European affairs between the Napoleonic Wars and World War I? I saw this because it shows Germany (Weselton) as the most aggressive nation. The other nations seem to have alliances with each other.

No. Not at all. We don't get any information about the other nations, except that Weselton is a trade partner with Arendelle. You are reading way too much into this.

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Postby Ludwig V Beethoven » Sun May 04, 2014 4:08 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Does anyone else think that Frozen is secretly about the state of European affairs between the Napoleonic Wars and World War I? I saw this because it shows Germany (Weselton) as the most aggressive nation. The other nations seem to have alliances with each other.


No, I don't think so.
1. The Duke was aggressive, we don't know about the whole nation.
2. There's another guy with a German accent. "Weselton" could also be Britain.
3. I don't see any power transitions apart from Elsa > Anna > Hans, which is internal.
4. Corona in Tangled has architecture that looks German.


Honestly, I don't really care much for references. Just enjoy the movie.
(But then again, some people are obsessed enough to do PhDs on this sort of things. Maybe you should, RSSS)
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 4:43 pm

Ludwig V Beethoven wrote:
Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Does anyone else think that Frozen is secretly about the state of European affairs between the Napoleonic Wars and World War I? I saw this because it shows Germany (Weselton) as the most aggressive nation. The other nations seem to have alliances with each other.


No, I don't think so.
1. The Duke was aggressive, we don't know about the whole nation.
2. There's another guy with a German accent. "Weselton" could also be Britain.
3. I don't see any power transitions apart from Elsa > Anna > Hans, which is internal.
4. Corona in Tangled has architecture that looks German.


Honestly, I don't really care much for references. Just enjoy the movie.
(But then again, some people are obsessed enough to do PhDs on this sort of things. Maybe you should, RSSS)

The Duke is the leader of Weselton. I think he is supposed to represent Kaiser Wilhelm II.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun May 04, 2014 5:38 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:
Ludwig V Beethoven wrote:
No, I don't think so.
1. The Duke was aggressive, we don't know about the whole nation.
2. There's another guy with a German accent. "Weselton" could also be Britain.
3. I don't see any power transitions apart from Elsa > Anna > Hans, which is internal.
4. Corona in Tangled has architecture that looks German.


Honestly, I don't really care much for references. Just enjoy the movie.
(But then again, some people are obsessed enough to do PhDs on this sort of things. Maybe you should, RSSS)

The Duke is the leader of Weselton. I think he is supposed to represent Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Why? He showed no signs of military aggression towards Arendelle. All he wanted to do was look inside the palace to see if anything was worth stealing.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun May 04, 2014 5:40 pm

Enjoyed it, not really cultural though.

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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 7:50 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:The Duke is the leader of Weselton. I think he is supposed to represent Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Why? He showed no signs of military aggression towards Arendelle. All he wanted to do was look inside the palace to see if anything was worth stealing.

He looks like Kaiser Wilhelm II.ImageImage
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Sun May 04, 2014 7:52 pm

Is the song "Fixer Upper" a homage to Eduard Khil?
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Postby The South Polish Union » Sun May 04, 2014 7:55 pm

:lol: @ this thread.

The movie attained to a high level of mediocrity. Not a classic at all.

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Postby Elsa the Snow Queen » Mon May 05, 2014 11:07 am

I LOVE Frozen, as you can probably tell, but I think RSSS is reading WAY TOOOO MUCH into the movie. I was dragged to the movie by my family and used to have a general contempt for any Disney movie but after watching Frozen, I have drastically changed and now have more respect for Disney again. But I never got any historical meaning from Frozen.
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Postby The Mataniya Islands » Mon May 05, 2014 11:11 am

J'adore La Reine des neiges - Libérée, Délivrée! C'est mon chanson favori sans doute. :D

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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Mon May 05, 2014 3:41 pm

What do people in Minnesota think of Frozen?
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Mon May 05, 2014 3:42 pm

The Mataniya Islands wrote:J'adore La Reine des neiges - Libérée, Délivrée! C'est mon chanson favori sans doute. :D

Do you think the people of France would send Queen Elsa to the guillotine if she was their leader?
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