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What are your feelings towards the Game of Thrones prequel "Blood Moon"?

Very excited/interested for the new series
1
3%
Cautious but optimistic
15
41%
Cautious, not optimistic
6
16%
Not excited/interested for the new series
15
41%
 
Total votes : 37

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:26 am

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I do not think for a second that if it came to it Daenerys would give up the throne for Jon. Not a chance imo

But i also dont think Jon would press the issue anyway.


He might if she seems like she might be bad for the 7 Kingdoms.

True. Sam telling him of his father and brother being killed and jon not being told of this did worry him a bit it seemed.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:45 am

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During Season 6, I speculated that Cersei would go down first before the plot concentrates on defeating the WW in the big finale. However, after this first episode, with all the players gathering in Winterfell and the Army of the Dead likely hitting the place in either the second or the third episode (Personally I believe the 2nd episode will end with the dead having arrived at the gates of Winterfell, beginning their full-scale assault in the next episode) I think that's becoming increasingly unlikely. It looks like Cersei might actually outlive the White Walkers. Of course, in order for her and the GC to pose any significant threat whatsoever, the dragons have to be taken out of the equation...maybe they both die in the fight against the Night King?

Also, I'm wondering how this "Jon vs Dany as rightful heir to the throne" thing they are obviously setting up will penn out.

My guess, which I am stealing from a podcast I listen to, is that Danaerys will insist on executing Jaime for that kingslaying he did that one time, and assert her authority as rightful queen to do so, and Jon will be forced to contradict her to save Jaime's life.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:15 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Fedel wrote:
He might if she seems like she might be bad for the 7 Kingdoms.

True. Sam telling him of his father and brother being killed and jon not being told of this did worry him a bit it seemed.

yes, but at the same time Jon gets it. He knows the weight of command and sometimes you gotta lop off a few heads
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:18 am

it is about time to start killing people, and as they say no good deed goes unpunished
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:31 am

Tarsonis wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:
True. Sam telling him of his father and brother being killed and jon not being told of this did worry him a bit it seemed.

yes, but at the same time Jon gets it. He knows the weight of command and sometimes you gotta lop off a few heads

Indeed, as he has done himself multiple times



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it is about time to start killing people, and as they say no good deed goes unpunished
"A good deed does not wash away the bad, nor a bad the good"

Or something along those lines from the rightful king.

Just start moirdering folks
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Postby Baltenstein » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
During Season 6, I speculated that Cersei would go down first before the plot concentrates on defeating the WW in the big finale. However, after this first episode, with all the players gathering in Winterfell and the Army of the Dead likely hitting the place in either the second or the third episode (Personally I believe the 2nd episode will end with the dead having arrived at the gates of Winterfell, beginning their full-scale assault in the next episode) I think that's becoming increasingly unlikely. It looks like Cersei might actually outlive the White Walkers. Of course, in order for her and the GC to pose any significant threat whatsoever, the dragons have to be taken out of the equation...maybe they both die in the fight against the Night King?

Also, I'm wondering how this "Jon vs Dany as rightful heir to the throne" thing they are obviously setting up will penn out.

My guess, which I am stealing from a podcast I listen to, is that Danaerys will insist on executing Jaime for that kingslaying he did that one time, and assert her authority as rightful queen to do so, and Jon will be forced to contradict her to save Jaime's life.


She goes all "Fire and Blood" in Jamie's face in the preview...but to be honest, is there anyone in the great hall other than Dany herself who didn't cheer about King Aerys' death when it happened? I mean this was the guy who had Rickard and Brandon Stark murdered in the cruellest way possible and who the entire North rose in rebellion against. Seriously, Dany should have deduced by now that her father was a crazy, vile son of a bitch. If the writers aren't deliberately trying to paint her as the villain, I expect her line after "you murdered my father..." to be something along the lines of "...but you were right to do so, he was an evil man."
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:49 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
My guess, which I am stealing from a podcast I listen to, is that Danaerys will insist on executing Jaime for that kingslaying he did that one time, and assert her authority as rightful queen to do so, and Jon will be forced to contradict her to save Jaime's life.


She goes all "Fire and Blood" in Jamie's face in the preview...but to be honest, is there anyone in the great hall other than Dany herself who didn't cheer about King Aerys' death when it happened? I mean this was the guy who had Rickard and Brandon Stark murdered in the cruellest way possible and who the entire North rose in rebellion against. Seriously, Dany should have deduced by now that her father was a crazy, vile son of a bitch. If the writers aren't deliberately trying to paint her as the villain, I expect her line after "you murdered my father..." to be something along the lines of "...but you were right to do so, he was an evil man."

She said as much her self last season when Jon went to see her for the first time
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Neh: The Blue Agenda, Being a prick, Xenos, Racism, National/Religious wankery, Zealots, Gatekeeping, Alt-right/SJW Snowflakes, Random lists, Dismantling Fortifications, Cabbage.

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Postby Ism » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:30 pm

You're all talking about Jon and Daenerys, and here I am just waiting for King Gendry to take his rightful place.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:35 pm

Ism wrote:You're all talking about Jon and Daenerys, and here I am just waiting for King Gendry to take his rightful place.

Im waiting for the true king Stannis Baratheon to finally reveal himself from the Wolfs Wood with an army of mecha peasants to seize the day.
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Yeh: The Red Agenda, Purging the Xenos, Not being a prick, Vidya Gaemz, Art, Science, History, Old Gregg, Blondes, Redheads, Tattooed girls, Erecting fortifications, Tanks.
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Postby Ism » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:45 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ism wrote:You're all talking about Jon and Daenerys, and here I am just waiting for King Gendry to take his rightful place.

Im waiting for the true king Stannis Baratheon to finally reveal himself from the Wolfs Wood with an army of mecha peasants to seize the day.


Stannis is dead Huskar, and he didn't die soon enough.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:49 pm

Ism wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Im waiting for the true king Stannis Baratheon to finally reveal himself from the Wolfs Wood with an army of mecha peasants to seize the day.


Stannis is dead Huskar, and he didn't die soon enough.

If jon and kaytln can rise from the dead, why not Stannis?
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Postby Ism » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:54 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ism wrote:
Stannis is dead Huskar, and he didn't die soon enough.

If jon and kaytln can rise from the dead, why not Stannis?


Only way Stannis is rising from the dead at this point is if he gets wightified.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:56 pm

I'm just waiting for Sean Bean to return to the show.

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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:59 pm

Ism wrote:You're all talking about Jon and Daenerys, and here I am just waiting for King Gendry to take his rightful place.

Bollocks to that. All hail Lyanna, Queen of the Seven Kingdoms by right of being the only one with her shit together.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:02 pm

Ifreann wrote:I'm just waiting for Sean Bean to return to the show.

The Headless Northman.


Earlier, while under the inspiration of a particular plant based remedy, I thought they might end the show with the simulation cop out. Or in this case pull a Devils Advocate where it’s a hallucination by young sansa stark who has to decide to tell the Lannister’s what Ned is up to.

Makes absolutely zero sense but I thought it would be the greatest troll ending of a series ever.
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Postby Ism » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:06 pm

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Ism wrote:You're all talking about Jon and Daenerys, and here I am just waiting for King Gendry to take his rightful place.

Bollocks to that. All hail Lyanna, Queen of the Seven Kingdoms by right of being the only one with her shit together.


We can have both.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:08 pm

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Ism wrote:You're all talking about Jon and Daenerys, and here I am just waiting for King Gendry to take his rightful place.

Bollocks to that. All hail Lyanna, Queen of the Seven Kingdoms by right of being the only one with her shit together.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:10 pm

Ism wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Im waiting for the true king Stannis Baratheon to finally reveal himself from the Wolfs Wood with an army of mecha peasants to seize the day.


Stannis is dead Huskar, and he didn't die soon enough.

Another one to the pyre

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Postby Ism » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:16 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ism wrote:
Stannis is dead Huskar, and he didn't die soon enough.

Another one to the pyre

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Hey, if he died figthing the Wildlings he would have died a hero worthy of song and Queen Shireen could have risen to liberate the Seven Kingdoms from Lannister rule and fight off the White Walkers. But we all know how that turned out don't we? Another one to the pyre indeed.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:01 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Bollocks to that. All hail Lyanna, Queen of the Seven Kingdoms by right of being the only one with her shit together.

Season 8 denouement: Lyanna Mormont, rightly sick of all the shite monarchs she's had to live under, invents democracy and is elected President of the Republic of Bear Island.

She is more of a conservative authoritarian than the rest of them, she shames the men of the north for their wishy washieness she is steadfast to the north.
She would follow sansa, who right now is the smartest one of them all
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:14 pm

Ism wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Another one to the pyre

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Hey, if he died figthing the Wildlings he would have died a hero worthy of song and Queen Shireen could have risen to liberate the Seven Kingdoms from Lannister rule and fight off the White Walkers. But we all know how that turned out don't we? Another one to the pyre indeed.

Shush you
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Yeh: The Red Agenda, Purging the Xenos, Not being a prick, Vidya Gaemz, Art, Science, History, Old Gregg, Blondes, Redheads, Tattooed girls, Erecting fortifications, Tanks.
Neh: The Blue Agenda, Being a prick, Xenos, Racism, National/Religious wankery, Zealots, Gatekeeping, Alt-right/SJW Snowflakes, Random lists, Dismantling Fortifications, Cabbage.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:03 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ism wrote:
Hey, if he died figthing the Wildlings he would have died a hero worthy of song and Queen Shireen could have risen to liberate the Seven Kingdoms from Lannister rule and fight off the White Walkers. But we all know how that turned out don't we? Another one to the pyre indeed.

Shush you

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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:40 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Bollocks to that. All hail Lyanna, Queen of the Seven Kingdoms by right of being the only one with her shit together.

Season 8 denouement: Lyanna Mormont, rightly sick of all the shite monarchs she's had to live under, invents democracy and is elected President of the Republic of Bear Island.

I tried to find a good Lyanna reaction gif to go here, but they were all rubbish.

This proves that the show needs more Lyanna.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:45 pm

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Season 8 denouement: Lyanna Mormont, rightly sick of all the shite monarchs she's had to live under, invents democracy and is elected President of the Republic of Bear Island.

I tried to find a good Lyanna reaction gif to go here, but they were all rubbish.

This proves that the show needs more Lyanna.

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New haven america wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Shush you

Shame Huskar.

Shame.

SHAME ON YOU I SAY
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Neh: The Blue Agenda, Being a prick, Xenos, Racism, National/Religious wankery, Zealots, Gatekeeping, Alt-right/SJW Snowflakes, Random lists, Dismantling Fortifications, Cabbage.

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