ASoIAF/Game of Thrones general Discussion Thread

[Corrian]

I have found the best cosplay

[Infected Mushroom]

There's no fourth fall anymore. Characters in the show know things that only the viewer could possibly know
Why are Bran's claims of omnipresence being taken seriously by all the lords of the North and Vale to the point that they accept his word on Baelish being guilty without thought? Why the hell did Baelish not question it?
He was one of the smartest men in the country, and he couldn't think of anything to say in his defense? Bullshit, I could think of stuff to say in his defense.
He didn't even muster a "if it weren't for me, everyone in this room would have died at the Battle of the Bastards"
Also, Dany is now a designated hero
No matter what she does, she is the hero, even if it is the most evil thing we've seen in the show yet.
She burned over 100 prisoners of war alive because they were willing to fight for their country against a foreign invader bringing in not!Mongols to subjugate them for another 300 years.
And Tyrion said explicitly that he struggled to convince her not to burn King's Landing to the ground, which he says later in the episode may have as many as a million people. Wasn't that exactly what the Mad King wanted to do? She's by far the most depravedly evil character in the show.

It seems that they downgraded Baelish into a Villain Of The Week type person who just goes down.

I mean, in the beginning it was almost as if he had supernatural powers because he was so good at politics, a powerful Devil behind the scene holding that book walking around the court screwing people over, shaping the entire plot.

Then at some point... he becomes this person who tries to turn two teenage sisters against each other. However, they unite and off him in an extremely staged fashion. Game Over.

"Lets move on."

So sad... It wasn't really Baelish who went down, it was Baelish in Villain Of The Week mode...

[Achesia]

There's no fourth fall anymore. Characters in the show know things that only the viewer could possibly know
Why are Bran's claims of omnipresence being taken seriously by all the lords of the North and Vale to the point that they accept his word on Baelish being guilty without thought? Why the hell did Baelish not question it?
He was one of the smartest men in the country, and he couldn't think of anything to say in his defense? Bullshit, I could think of stuff to say in his defense.
He didn't even muster a "if it weren't for me, everyone in this room would have died at the Battle of the Bastards"
Also, Dany is now a designated hero
No matter what she does, she is the hero, even if it is the most evil thing we've seen in the show yet.
She burned over 100 prisoners of war alive because they were willing to fight for their country against a foreign invader bringing in not!Mongols to subjugate them for another 300 years.
And Tyrion said explicitly that he struggled to convince her not to burn King's Landing to the ground, which he says later in the episode may have as many as a million people. Wasn't that exactly what the Mad King wanted to do? She's by far the most depravedly evil character in the show.

It seems that they downgraded Baelish into a Villain Of The Week type person who just goes down.

I mean, in the beginning it was almost as if he had supernatural powers because he was so good at politics, a powerful Devil behind the scene holding that book walking around the court screwing people over, shaping the entire plot.

Then at some point... he becomes this person who tries to turn two teenage sisters against each other. However, they unite and off him in an extremely staged fashion. Game Over.

"Lets move on."

So sad... It wasn't really Baelish who went down, it was Baelish in Villain Of The Week mode...

Perhaps Bran preloaded all those in the great hall with something like "if you don't support my sister's in this, I'm giving your wives the password to your pornhub account." Or something in theme along those lines.

[Infected Mushroom]

It seems that they downgraded Baelish into a Villain Of The Week type person who just goes down.

I mean, in the beginning it was almost as if he had supernatural powers because he was so good at politics, a powerful Devil behind the scene holding that book walking around the court screwing people over, shaping the entire plot.

Then at some point... he becomes this person who tries to turn two teenage sisters against each other. However, they unite and off him in an extremely staged fashion. Game Over.

"Lets move on."

So sad... It wasn't really Baelish who went down, it was Baelish in Villain Of The Week mode...

Perhaps Bran preloaded all those in the great hall with something like "if you don't support my sister's in this, I'm giving your wives the password to your pornhub account." Or something in theme along those lines.

I mean I expected him to go down at some point but not defeated like some villain of the week... like an afterthought in the whole arc

I mean really? He went down trying to turn 2 teenage sisters against each other?

[Achesia]

Perhaps Bran preloaded all those in the great hall with something like "if you don't support my sister's in this, I'm giving your wives the password to your pornhub account." Or something in theme along those lines.

I mean I expected him to go down at some point but not defeated like some villain of the week... like an afterthought in the whole arc

I mean really? He went down trying to turn 2 teenage sisters against each other?

They had plot daggers tho...

[The Valyria Empire]

It seems that they downgraded Baelish into a Villain Of The Week type person who just goes down.

I mean, in the beginning it was almost as if he had supernatural powers because he was so good at politics, a powerful Devil behind the scene holding that book walking around the court screwing people over, shaping the entire plot.

Then at some point... he becomes this person who tries to turn two teenage sisters against each other. However, they unite and off him in an extremely staged fashion. Game Over.

"Lets move on."

So sad... It wasn't really Baelish who went down, it was Baelish in Villain Of The Week mode...

Perhaps Bran preloaded all those in the great hall with something like "if you don't support my sister's in this, I'm giving your wives the password to your pornhub account." Or something in theme along those lines.

Funny you mention that. There was a cut scene where Sansa goes to Bran and is all like, "Yo, I don't know what to do. I might have to kill Arya." Then Bran says, "You're being played, let me show my copies of Season 1-3."

This scene explains how Sansa is able to charge LF with all that stuff at the end. However it does not explain why Arya was acting the way she did. In the end, they decided to just go with two girls outsmarting one of the best players of political gain in Westeros. That someone who starts from the bottom, can climb the ladder all the way to the top.

To me, Show Baelish died back in Season 5. He was then replaced by a guy who looks and sounds just like him but is fucking stupid.

[Achesia]

Perhaps Bran preloaded all those in the great hall with something like "if you don't support my sister's in this, I'm giving your wives the password to your pornhub account." Or something in theme along those lines.

Funny you mention that. There was a cut scene where Sansa goes to Bran and is all like, "Yo, I don't know what to do. I might have to kill Arya." Then Bran says, "You're being played, let me show my copies of Season 1-3."

This scene explains how Sansa is able to charge LF with all that stuff at the end. However it does not explain why Arya was acting the way she did. In the end, they decided to just go with two girls outsmarting one of the best players of political gain in Westeros. That someone who starts from the bottom, can climb the ladder all the way to the top.

To me, Show Baelish died back in Season 5. He was then replaced by a guy who looks and sounds just like him but is fucking stupid.

So I rewatched the finale last night, and what pisses me off is in their episode recap review, how proud d&d are of the abortion that was their writing of this plot arc. They literary think they were so clever in fooling audiences that their was a rift between sansa and Arya and that it was so believable that either of the girls could of killed eachother.

Bruh, I think like friggin half of us called it from the start. It was the shittiest written conflict and the dialog made absolutely no sense. It was like it was written by a 14 year old fanfic witer who missed all of season 1 because "it was too slow and boring" and failed out of english literature. And those twits are proud of it. The smugness of it all...

[Infected Mushroom]

Funny you mention that. There was a cut scene where Sansa goes to Bran and is all like, "Yo, I don't know what to do. I might have to kill Arya." Then Bran says, "You're being played, let me show my copies of Season 1-3."

This scene explains how Sansa is able to charge LF with all that stuff at the end. However it does not explain why Arya was acting the way she did. In the end, they decided to just go with two girls outsmarting one of the best players of political gain in Westeros. That someone who starts from the bottom, can climb the ladder all the way to the top.

To me, Show Baelish died back in Season 5. He was then replaced by a guy who looks and sounds just like him but is fucking stupid.

So I rewatched the finale last night, and what pisses me off is in their episode recap review, how proud d&d are of the abortion that was their writing of this plot arc. They literary think they were so clever in fooling audiences that their was a rift between sansa and Arya and that it was so believable that either of the girls could of killed eachother.

Bruh, I think like friggin half of us called it from the start. It was the shittiest written conflict and the dialog made absolutely no sense. It was like it was written by a 14 year old fanfic witer who missed all of season 1 because "it was too slow and boring" and failed out of english literature. And those twits are proud of it. The smugness of it all...

Its beyond ridiculous and it would seem so to anyone who has a real sibling. I have a brother. Do you know WHAT KIND OF SHIT HAS TO HAPPEN for me to want to actually murder/execute my brother?

D and D clearly only childs...

I mean, Littlefinger's not just trying to get a sister to take another sister's promotion or something like that... his master plan was to get one sibling to MURDER another sibling. I mean come on...

Siblings fight all the time, but it is very very very rare for them murder each other OKAY? Its much more likely that they'll second guess the guy who's pretty obviously trying to turn them against each other.

[Achesia]

So I rewatched the finale last night, and what pisses me off is in their episode recap review, how proud d&d are of the abortion that was their writing of this plot arc. They literary think they were so clever in fooling audiences that their was a rift between sansa and Arya and that it was so believable that either of the girls could of killed eachother.

Bruh, I think like friggin half of us called it from the start. It was the shittiest written conflict and the dialog made absolutely no sense. It was like it was written by a 14 year old fanfic witer who missed all of season 1 because "it was too slow and boring" and failed out of english literature. And those twits are proud of it. The smugness of it all...

Its beyond ridiculous and it would seem so to anyone who has a real sibling. I have a brother. Do you know WHAT KIND OF SHIT HAS TO HAPPEN for me to want to actually murder/execute my brother?

D and D clearly only childs...

I mean, Littlefinger's not just trying to get a sister to take another sister's promotion or something like that... his master plan was to get one sibling to MURDER another sibling. I mean come on...

Siblings fight all the time, but it is very very very rare for them murder each other OKAY? Its much more likely that they'll second guess the guy who's pretty obviously trying to turn them against each other.

Eh I can believe LF trying to get them to kill eachother, but its the dialog and the actions of Arya and Sansa that killed me.

Tho I had been wondering why tf LF has just been posted against a wall for so long. Like what was his angle even?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Its beyond ridiculous and it would seem so to anyone who has a real sibling. I have a brother. Do you know WHAT KIND OF SHIT HAS TO HAPPEN for me to want to actually murder/execute my brother?

D and D clearly only childs...

I mean, Littlefinger's not just trying to get a sister to take another sister's promotion or something like that... his master plan was to get one sibling to MURDER another sibling. I mean come on...

Siblings fight all the time, but it is very very very rare for them murder each other OKAY? Its much more likely that they'll second guess the guy who's pretty obviously trying to turn them against each other.

Eh I can believe LF trying to get them to kill eachother, but its the dialog and the actions of Arya and Sansa that killed me.

Tho I had been wondering why tf LF has just been posted against a wall for so long. Like what was his angle even?

There wasn't one. There never was a plan. DnD never knew what they were going to do with his character, so they made a contrived way to kill him. Just like the Dorne season had a really contrived way to get Dorne into the war against the Lannisters so they didn't have to do an arc with book Aegon.

[Achesia]

Eh I can believe LF trying to get them to kill eachother, but its the dialog and the actions of Arya and Sansa that killed me.

Tho I had been wondering why tf LF has just been posted against a wall for so long. Like what was his angle even?

There wasn't one. There never was a plan. DnD never knew what they were going to do with his character, so they made a contrived way to kill him. Just like the Dorne season had a really contrived way to get Dorne into the war against the Lannisters so they didn't have to do an arc with book Aegon.

D&d have catered the show to the lowest common denominator of viewer, I don't know that it occurs to those who are in that category about how awfuly written it is.

[The Valyria Empire]

Eh I can believe LF trying to get them to kill eachother, but its the dialog and the actions of Arya and Sansa that killed me.

Tho I had been wondering why tf LF has just been posted against a wall for so long. Like what was his angle even?

There wasn't one. There never was a plan. DnD never knew what they were going to do with his character, so they made a contrived way to kill him. Just like the Dorne season had a really contrived way to get Dorne into the war against the Lannisters so they didn't have to do an arc with book Aegon.

They love killing off characters to give their "Favorite actors" other plots. They killed Stannis and gave his plot to Jon. Sansa got the Jeyne Poole, Theon got/is getting the Asha/Victarion plot. Jon is literally also getting the Aegon plot somewhat (with his name and all).

That's not counting the characters that were even added to the show that they gave book plots to. Arianne Martell being cut, and her plot being given somewhat to the Sand snakes.

Plus let's not forget some of the stupid deaths they give to actors they don't like (Stannis) or people who didn't like how their character was being portrayed compared to the books (Barristan). D&D make a book fan like me just hate their writing. I think it might be series fatigue, as most HBO shows get worse as they go on.

[Achesia]

There wasn't one. There never was a plan. DnD never knew what they were going to do with his character, so they made a contrived way to kill him. Just like the Dorne season had a really contrived way to get Dorne into the war against the Lannisters so they didn't have to do an arc with book Aegon.

They love killing off characters to give their "Favorite actors" other plots. They killed Stannis and gave his plot to Jon. Sansa got the Jeyne Poole, Theon got/is getting the Asha/Victarion plot. Jon is literally also getting the Aegon plot somewhat (with his name and all).

That's not counting the characters that were even added to the show that they gave book plots to. Arianne Martell being cut, and her plot being given somewhat to the Sand snakes.

Plus let's not forget some of the stupid deaths they give to actors they don't like (Stannis) or people who didn't like how their character was being portrayed compared to the books (Barristan). D&D make a book fan like me just hate their writing. I think it might be series fatigue, as most HBO shows get worse as they go on.

Ive kinda lost energy i guess putting up with their bs. There are some things that have come about that I like, I just hope to see them represented better in the books.... if they are every published. JESUS IF GRRM DIES D&D DONT WRITE THE BOOKS DO THEY!????

[United Muscovite Nations]

There wasn't one. There never was a plan. DnD never knew what they were going to do with his character, so they made a contrived way to kill him. Just like the Dorne season had a really contrived way to get Dorne into the war against the Lannisters so they didn't have to do an arc with book Aegon.

They love killing off characters to give their "Favorite actors" other plots. They killed Stannis and gave his plot to Jon. Sansa got the Jeyne Poole, Theon got/is getting the Asha/Victarion plot. Jon is literally also getting the Aegon plot somewhat (with his name and all).

That's not counting the characters that were even added to the show that they gave book plots to. Arianne Martell being cut, and her plot being given somewhat to the Sand snakes.

Plus let's not forget some of the stupid deaths they give to actors they don't like (Stannis) or people who didn't like how their character was being portrayed compared to the books (Barristan). D&D make a book fan like me just hate their writing. I think it might be series fatigue, as most HBO shows get worse as they go on.

Part of it is that they really do need to cut time. Their actors are aging. That said, they handle it in a bad way.

[Infected Mushroom]

They love killing off characters to give their "Favorite actors" other plots. They killed Stannis and gave his plot to Jon. Sansa got the Jeyne Poole, Theon got/is getting the Asha/Victarion plot. Jon is literally also getting the Aegon plot somewhat (with his name and all).

That's not counting the characters that were even added to the show that they gave book plots to. Arianne Martell being cut, and her plot being given somewhat to the Sand snakes.

Plus let's not forget some of the stupid deaths they give to actors they don't like (Stannis) or people who didn't like how their character was being portrayed compared to the books (Barristan). D&D make a book fan like me just hate their writing. I think it might be series fatigue, as most HBO shows get worse as they go on.

Ive kinda lost energy i guess putting up with their bs. There are some things that have come about that I like, I just hope to see them represented better in the books.... if they are every published. JESUS IF GRRM DIES D&D DONT WRITE THE BOOKS DO THEY!????

Story is really doomed though if they keep this focus on Danny and Jon Snow. Book or show.

[Achesia]

Ive kinda lost energy i guess putting up with their bs. There are some things that have come about that I like, I just hope to see them represented better in the books.... if they are every published. JESUS IF GRRM DIES D&D DONT WRITE THE BOOKS DO THEY!????

Story is really doomed though if they keep this focus on Danny and Jon Snow. Book or show.

Thats the part I like

[Baltenstein]

Funny you mention that. There was a cut scene where Sansa goes to Bran and is all like, "Yo, I don't know what to do. I might have to kill Arya." Then Bran says, "You're being played, let me show my copies of Season 1-3."

This scene explains how Sansa is able to charge LF with all that stuff at the end. However it does not explain why Arya was acting the way she did. In the end, they decided to just go with two girls outsmarting one of the best players of political gain in Westeros. That someone who starts from the bottom, can climb the ladder all the way to the top.

To me, Show Baelish died back in Season 5. He was then replaced by a guy who looks and sounds just like him but is fucking stupid.

So I rewatched the finale last night, and what pisses me off is in their episode recap review, how proud d&d are of the abortion that was their writing of this plot arc. They literary think they were so clever in fooling audiences that their was a rift between sansa and Arya and that it was so believable that either of the girls could of killed eachother.

Bruh, I think like friggin half of us called it from the start. It was the shittiest written conflict and the dialog made absolutely no sense. It was like it was written by a 14 year old fanfic witer who missed all of season 1 because "it was too slow and boring" and failed out of english literature. And those twits are proud of it. The smugness of it all...

If I understood the directors correctly, the Stark girls actually were about to kill each other, right up until Episode 6. Arya was earnest when she threw all those non-sensical accusations into Sansa's face. So Littlefinger actually was succesfully playing them against each other.
It was only when Dr. Branhattan stepped in and told them about Littlefinger's shenanigans that they immediately reconciled and started plotting against him instead.
(I assume he also briefed the rest of the Northerners and knights of the Vale without LF noticing.)

[Achesia]

So I rewatched the finale last night, and what pisses me off is in their episode recap review, how proud d&d are of the abortion that was their writing of this plot arc. They literary think they were so clever in fooling audiences that their was a rift between sansa and Arya and that it was so believable that either of the girls could of killed eachother.

Bruh, I think like friggin half of us called it from the start. It was the shittiest written conflict and the dialog made absolutely no sense. It was like it was written by a 14 year old fanfic witer who missed all of season 1 because "it was too slow and boring" and failed out of english literature. And those twits are proud of it. The smugness of it all...

If I understood the directors correctly, the Stark girls actually were about to kill each other, right up until Episode 6. Arya was earnest when she threw all those non-sensical accusations into Sansa's face. So Littlefinger actually was succesfully playing them against each other.
It was only when Dr. Branhattan stepped in and told them about Littlefinger's shenanigans that they immediately reconciled and started plotting against him instead.
(I assume he also briefed the rest of the Northerners and knights of the Vale without LF noticing.)

I think that's even worse... its better if the two characters are just bad at pretending to want to kill eachother.

[United Muscovite Nations]

So I rewatched the finale last night, and what pisses me off is in their episode recap review, how proud d&d are of the abortion that was their writing of this plot arc. They literary think they were so clever in fooling audiences that their was a rift between sansa and Arya and that it was so believable that either of the girls could of killed eachother.

Bruh, I think like friggin half of us called it from the start. It was the shittiest written conflict and the dialog made absolutely no sense. It was like it was written by a 14 year old fanfic witer who missed all of season 1 because "it was too slow and boring" and failed out of english literature. And those twits are proud of it. The smugness of it all...

If I understood the directors correctly, the Stark girls actually were about to kill each other, right up until Episode 6. Arya was earnest when she threw all those non-sensical accusations into Sansa's face. So Littlefinger actually was succesfully playing them against each other.
It was only when Dr. Branhattan stepped in and told them about Littlefinger's shenanigans that they immediately reconciled and started plotting against him instead.
(I assume he also briefed the rest of the Northerners and knights of the Vale without LF noticing.)

Then you still have the problem of everyone trusting Bran without qualification. The Northern and Vale lords have no proof that Bran is speaking the truth; for all they know, he's just a brain-damaged cripple.

[Baltenstein]

If I understood the directors correctly, the Stark girls actually were about to kill each other, right up until Episode 6. Arya was earnest when she threw all those non-sensical accusations into Sansa's face. So Littlefinger actually was succesfully playing them against each other.
It was only when Dr. Branhattan stepped in and told them about Littlefinger's shenanigans that they immediately reconciled and started plotting against him instead.
(I assume he also briefed the rest of the Northerners and knights of the Vale without LF noticing.)

Then you still have the problem of everyone trusting Bran without qualification. The Northern and Vale lords have no proof that Bran is speaking the truth; for all they know, he's just a brain-damaged cripple.

As I said waaaay back when the season started, Bran's likely trick to convince others of his greenseeing abilities is bringing up super-embarrasing moments from their pasts that he could not have possibly known about.

[The Valyria Empire]

[The Huskar Social Union]

(Image)

I have found the best cosplay

I love this.

[Lord of The Rings]

I was wandering around on the internet again and stumbled onto the Sansan theory. I personally love the theory around it and it does make a lot of sense for something to happen between the two. What do you all think of it?

Here's a short video of the theory for those who haven't heard of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrhIwHEwBBU

[The Valyria Empire]

I was wandering around on the internet again and stumbled onto the Sansan theory. I personally love the theory around it and it does make a lot of sense for something to happen between the two. What do you all think of it?

Here's a short video of the theory for those who haven't heard of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrhIwHEwBBU

I could see something happening in the books, if it wasn't for the Grave Digger theory. The show won't happen, they'll probably have Gendry and Sansa together.

You see, if the Grave Digger theory is true, which I believe it is. Sandor is living a peaceful life, he has put violence behind him and moved on. Martin's story is that of anti-war and violence. We see multiple characters renounce war and show how unglory it is, along with many characters trying to be more peaceful. Characters like Jaime, and Sandor lived their whole lives fighting or violently. Now, Jaime is able to take Riverrun and The Blackwoods by diplomacy while Sandor is living the rest of his days on the Quiet Isle.

Sorry, just because Sandor was a nice guy doesn't mean he'll get with her or come back to her. While the UnKiss theory could lead to something in the future, I don't think the Hound will be there in person.

[New haven america]