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Thoughts on HOTD Episode Ten: "The Black Queen"

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:44 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:...

Horrible butchering of Italian names aside.

Ikr, it would be lannistara

Couldn't the plural of the family maybe be Lannistari?

(Thinking of Grimaldi, Morosini, Contarini,Foscari...) Or I might just have a limited memory/knowledge of Italian nobility.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:55 am

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The Freehold of Caelton wrote:Most knight didnt really try to go so overboard as Gregor Clegane.... While thy DEFINITELY werent perfect, they didnt try extra hard to be pure evil.....
Im hoping that it turns out that Petyr is a Reyne or a Tarbeck...

I don't remember any knights getting pissed and decapitating their horse.

Not a knight or horse, but there was Edmund Beaufort, Duke of Somerset during the Wars of the Roses who got so mad at Baron Wenlock for failing to properly lead his troops during the Battle of Tewkesbury that he smashed Wenlocks head in with his warhammer as the battle still raged.

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Postby The Qeiiam Galaxy » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:03 am

So the next two episodes are called "The Dance of Dragon's" and "Mother's Mercy".

Hmm, Mother's mercy...

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:07 am

The Qeiiam Galaxy wrote:Hmm, Mother's mercy...

Someone gon' die.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:23 am

Another article on last night's episode. Check out the theme song at the end
http://gothamist.com/2015/06/01/game_of ... s_hard.php
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Postby Seraven » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:31 am

Why Varys wants Danny?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:42 am

Seraven wrote:Why Varys wants Danny?

He is a Targaryen Loyalist, he sees them as the best possible Rulers for the Seven Kingdoms.

There are potentially some other motives for his work but for the most part his work has been aimed at returning a Targaryen to the throne, so destabilising the realm as best he can and making sure they are at each others throats in Kings Landing to keep them off balance.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:44 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Seraven wrote:Why Varys wants Danny?

He is a Targaryen Loyalist, he sees them as the best possible Rulers for the Seven Kingdoms.

There are potentially some other motives for his work but for the most part his work has been aimed at returning a Targaryen to the throne, so destabilising the realm as best he can and making sure they are at each others throats in Kings Landing to keep them off balance.

I also think, he thinKS daynaras is the best qualified to rule. He has always claimed to serve the realm.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:49 am

Ethel mermania wrote:Another article on last night's episode. Check out the theme song at the end
http://gothamist.com/2015/06/01/game_of ... s_hard.php

The Game of Thrones theme turned into a spaghetti western soundtrack.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:53 am

I think the best way to end things would be Stannis and Daenerys ending up fighting each other in some sort of battle. After all, there's no way Stannis would just hand over the reigns to a House he helped extinguish.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:59 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
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He is a Targaryen Loyalist, he sees them as the best possible Rulers for the Seven Kingdoms.

There are potentially some other motives for his work but for the most part his work has been aimed at returning a Targaryen to the throne, so destabilising the realm as best he can and making sure they are at each others throats in Kings Landing to keep them off balance.

I also think, he thinKS daynaras is the best qualified to rule. He has always claimed to serve the realm.

Yeah, thats what he says his overall goals are is to serve the realm, and the best way he can accomplish that in his eyes is to get them back in charge.

Because the Lannisters have been terrible in charge, Robert was a drunk who did not care, and though Stannis is just Varys knows he would kill a fuck ton of people when he got into power trying to weed out the enemies of his house and the ones who made the realm suffer, which in turn would not make him a lot of allies and could full well lead to another civil war.

So for him, Dany is the best option, especially since she has been gaining a lot of support in the east with trying to crackdown on Slavers Bay, so with the right advice and council she could potentially rally alot of the kingdoms to her side, and some houses are still loyal to them in secret.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:01 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I also think, he thinKS daynaras is the best qualified to rule. He has always claimed to serve the realm.

Yeah, thats what he says his overall goals are is to serve the realm, and the best way he can accomplish that in his eyes is to get them back in charge.

Because the Lannisters have been terrible in charge, Robert was a drunk who did not care, and though Stannis is just Varys knows he would kill a fuck ton of people when he got into power trying to weed out the enemies of his house and the ones who made the realm suffer, which in turn would not make him a lot of allies and could full well lead to another civil war.

So for him, Dany is the best option, especially since she has been gaining a lot of support in the east with trying to crackdown on Slavers Bay, so with the right advice and council she could potentially rally alot of the kingdoms to her side, and some houses are still loyal to them in secret.

Makes sense to me. How much the common people support her is an open Question, but I think you are on track.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:02 am

Corrian wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Another article on last night's episode. Check out the theme song at the end
http://gothamist.com/2015/06/01/game_of ... s_hard.php

The Game of Thrones theme turned into a spaghetti western soundtrack.

There was one a few years ago that turned it into a new Orleans brass band tune.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:02 am

I really doubt the smallfolk give one fuck or another if the person lording over them is a Baratheon or a Lannister or a Targaryen. They probably only care if the person ruling them is a huge cunt.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:03 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:I really doubt the smallfolk give one fuck or another if the person lording over them is a Baratheon or a Lannister or a Targaryen. They probably only care if the person ruling them is a huge cunt.

Yeah, i think their main concern is not being butchered by their lord, so they probably would not care unless she started doing that.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:04 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I really doubt the smallfolk give one fuck or another if the person lording over them is a Baratheon or a Lannister or a Targaryen. They probably only care if the person ruling them is a huge cunt.

Yeah, i think their main concern is not being butchered by their lord, so they probably would not care unless she started doing that.

I feel bad for the folk being lorded over by the Boltons. They really don't seem like good or competent folk.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:07 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yeah, i think their main concern is not being butchered by their lord, so they probably would not care unless she started doing that.

I feel bad for the folk being lorded over by the Boltons. They really don't seem like good or competent folk.

Yeah, i would left there lands along time ago first opportunity.

Who knows when that fucking loonatic ramsay will show up and be like this followed by a few flayings.
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Postby Seraven » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:09 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:I think the best way to end things would be Stannis and Daenerys ending up fighting each other in some sort of battle. After all, there's no way Stannis would just hand over the reigns to a House he helped extinguish.


But as Tyrion said, Danny's goal of as the ruler of Iron Throne is too far, even for now.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:29 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:I think the best way to end things would be Stannis and Daenerys ending up fighting each other in some sort of battle. After all, there's no way Stannis would just hand over the reigns to a House he helped extinguish.


I would definitely support Stannis in such a battle.

I don't like Daenerys.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:32 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I think the best way to end things would be Stannis and Daenerys ending up fighting each other in some sort of battle. After all, there's no way Stannis would just hand over the reigns to a House he helped extinguish.


I would definitely support Stannis in such a battle.

I don't like Daenerys.

And then afterwards Stannis personally extinguishes the last few embers of House Lannister.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:33 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I would definitely support Stannis in such a battle.

I don't like Daenerys.

And then afterwards Stannis personally extinguishes the last few embers of House Lannister.

Hehehe, i did that myself in the Game of Thrones mod for CK2.

What a reckoning there was.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:35 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:I think the best way to end things would be Stannis and Daenerys ending up fighting each other in some sort of battle. After all, there's no way Stannis would just hand over the reigns to a House he helped extinguish.

Actually perhaps not. After all, Stannis did find it hard to betray the Targ's the first time. He only joined because he put his family first. He could potentially recognise Dany's claim as stronger and bend the knee to her. Of that probably wont happen, but it's my hope of the Mannis staying alive.

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:40 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yeah, i think their main concern is not being butchered by their lord, so they probably would not care unless she started doing that.

I feel bad for the folk being lorded over by the Boltons. They really don't seem like good or competent folk.

And Roose still practices Primae Noctis, hardcore style :/

So do the Umbers as well, so it's still a bit shitty even if your lord isn't a psychopath.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:42 am

Napkiraly wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I think the best way to end things would be Stannis and Daenerys ending up fighting each other in some sort of battle. After all, there's no way Stannis would just hand over the reigns to a House he helped extinguish.

Actually perhaps not. After all, Stannis did find it hard to betray the Targ's the first time. He only joined because he put his family first. He could potentially recognise Dany's claim as stronger and bend the knee to her. Of that probably wont happen, but it's my hope of the Mannis staying alive.

No one seems to think Stannis would bend the knee to Daenerys, especially since he's fought so long and so many people have died to put him on the Iron Throne.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:03 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:
Actually perhaps not. After all, Stannis did find it hard to betray the Targ's the first time. He only joined because he put his family first. He could potentially recognise Dany's claim as stronger and bend the knee to her. Of that probably wont happen, but it's my hope of the Mannis staying alive.

No one seems to think Stannis would bend the knee to Daenerys, especially since he's fought so long and so many people have died to put him on the Iron Throne.

Oh I know he wont. But it's my hopeful dream.

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