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Thoughts on HOTD Episode Ten: "The Black Queen"

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun May 31, 2015 9:51 pm

Season 5 was literally salvaged by this weeks episode. Also
that new wilding chick (RIP, knew she was going to die the moment she said "I'm right behind you") was freaking awesome. I have no idea whom that actress is but I'm now in love.

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Postby Astrolinium » Sun May 31, 2015 11:36 pm

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Postby Seangoli » Sun May 31, 2015 11:43 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Season 5 was literally salvaged by this weeks episode. Also
that new wilding chick (RIP, knew she was going to die the moment she said "I'm right behind you") was freaking awesome. I have no idea whom that actress is but I'm now in love.


Indeed.

I will say I was initially annoyed last season when they revealed the whole thing with where the white walkers come from, but after seeing how they've moved this season forward with the changes they made, it's about the only thing salvaging the season as a whole. I do wish they weren't screaming zombies, and a bit more quietly forboding, but I'll take it. And the end of the episode really gives a sense of how bad things beyond the wall have gotten, and how incredibly petty everything south of it is. The books really dragged this out, and I'm quite glad they decided to move it forward a bit faster.

Also, I am very disappointed that the bad-ass wildling woman died so quickly. Seemed like a wasted opportunity. They have been very shoddy with the alterations they have made from the books this season, and it's somewhat jarring that they would abandon one of the few interesting characters written into the show that is unique to it. I would gladly have her added to the show if it meant getting rid of the idiotic Dorne subplot they are going with.

On a similar note, I am extremely glad they haven't changed Cersi's plot from the books too much, because damn if Lena Headey isn't a great actress. She really sells the character and hard, and what the character is going through.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:05 am

Jon Snow is too sexy to die.
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Postby Baltenstein » Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:53 am

What last episode needed:

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Also glad they solely focused on the WW threat in the last part of the episode. When Jon went alone with the Thenn, I was kinda expecting/fearing that the latter would turn on him at some point. The leader of the White Walkers looks much better than the last time we saw him.
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Postby Meryuma » Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:54 am

Best episode of the season; if the next two are that great it's entirely redeemed.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:00 am

I don't understand why people think this season had to be redeemed. My only complaint so far is that there hasn't been head nor hair of the Ironborn.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:17 am

It has not been salvaged. Not yet.

There's not enough of Jaime Lannister.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:20 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:It has not been salvaged. Not yet.

There's not enough of Jaime Lannister.

Eh, Thunderdorne is a boring plot that doesn't really seem to be going anywhere.

What we really need is Ironborn, though the show will only reach its zenith when we see Cleganebowl.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:22 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:It has not been salvaged. Not yet.

There's not enough of Jaime Lannister.

Eh, Thunderdorne is a boring plot that doesn't really seem to be going anywhere.

What we really need is Ironborn, though the show will only reach its zenith when we see Cleganebowl.


Unfortunately

I hope Dorne actually goes somewhere, I'm also annoyed that Jaime's no longer wearing his awesome crimson leather jacket any more. The Dornish wear does not suit him.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:24 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:Unfortunately

I hope Dorne actually goes somewhere, I'm also annoyed that Jaime's no longer wearing his awesome crimson leather jacket any more. The Dornish wear does not suit him.

Eh, I'm pretty sure Thunderdorne is going to turn into a dud, or just be Dorne's justification for siding with Stannis/Daenerys.

In a way, it would be kind of fitting if Jaime died down there. That would be a good way to put the final nail in coffin of the Lannister's insidious reign.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:25 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Unfortunately

I hope Dorne actually goes somewhere, I'm also annoyed that Jaime's no longer wearing his awesome crimson leather jacket any more. The Dornish wear does not suit him.

Eh, I'm pretty sure Thunderdorne is going to turn into a dud, or just be Dorne's justification for siding with Stannis/Daenerys.

In a way, it would be kind of fitting if Jaime died down there. That would be a good way to put the final nail in coffin of the Lannister's insidious reign.

Yes indeed.

Also have not seen the latest episode yet, looking forward to seeing it this afternoon.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:26 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Unfortunately

I hope Dorne actually goes somewhere, I'm also annoyed that Jaime's no longer wearing his awesome crimson leather jacket any more. The Dornish wear does not suit him.

Eh, I'm pretty sure Thunderdorne is going to turn into a dud, or just be Dorne's justification for siding with Stannis/Daenerys.

In a way, it would be kind of fitting if Jaime died down there. That would be a good way to put the final nail in coffin of the Lannister's insidious reign.


Tywin tried to bring peace and prosperity to the realm, as did Tyrion

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:31 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:Tywin tried to bring peace and prosperity to the realm, as did Tyrion

You have a serious hard on for the Lannisters (especially Jaime), no offense dude. Most of them are/were incompetent and/or huge assholes, with the sole exception being Tyrion and (somewhat later on in the show) Jaime.

Me? I like the Cleganes. They're a pretty solid deconstruction of the way knights have been romanticized in our culture.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:33 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Tywin tried to bring peace and prosperity to the realm, as did Tyrion

You have a serious hard on for the Lannisters (especially Jaime), no offense dude. Most of them are/were incompetent and/or huge assholes, with the sole exception being Tyrion and (somewhat later on in the show) Jaime.

Me? I like the Cleganes. They're a pretty solid deconstruction of the way knights have been romanticized in our culture.


I don't like Gregor because of what he did in Season 4.

As for Sandor,
he ruined Arya's reunion with her sister.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:37 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I don't like Gregor because of what he did in Season 4.

As for Sandor,
he ruined Arya's reunion with her sister.

Everything Gregor did would have been par for the course for knights in the Middle Ages. They were a pretty unpleasant bunch.

Sandor is my favorite character in the entire series. He's witty, gritty, a fantastic warrior, and seems to be one of the few people acutely aware of how absurd the world is. Bronn is my other favorite character, incidentally.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:44 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I don't like Gregor because of what he did in Season 4.

As for Sandor,
he ruined Arya's reunion with her sister.

Everything Gregor did would have been par for the course for knights in the Middle Ages. They were a pretty unpleasant bunch.

Sandor is my favorite character in the entire series. He's witty, gritty, a fantastic warrior, and seems to be one of the few people acutely aware of how absurd the world is. Bronn is my other favorite character, incidentally.


I like Sandor's chapters. His POV is fun to read.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:46 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I don't like Gregor because of what he did in Season 4.

As for Sandor,
he ruined Arya's reunion with her sister.

Everything Gregor did would have been par for the course for knights in the Middle Ages. They were a pretty unpleasant bunch.

Sandor is my favorite character in the entire series. He's witty, gritty, a fantastic warrior, and seems to be one of the few people acutely aware of how absurd the world is. Bronn is my other favorite character, incidentally.

Sandro was a character who there was more too than meets the eye.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:47 am

An interesting article on last night's episode

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/201 ... of-thrones
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:50 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Everything Gregor did would have been par for the course for knights in the Middle Ages. They were a pretty unpleasant bunch.

Sandor is my favorite character in the entire series. He's witty, gritty, a fantastic warrior, and seems to be one of the few people acutely aware of how absurd the world is. Bronn is my other favorite character, incidentally.

Sandro was a character who there was more too than meets the eye.


Sandro. Sounds Italian.

''My name is Sandro Clegano. I serve Tywino Lannistaro.''

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:29 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Sandro was a character who there was more too than meets the eye.


Sandro. Sounds Italian.

''My name is Sandro Clegano. I serve Tywino Lannistaro.''

...

Horrible butchering of Italian names aside.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:58 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Sandro. Sounds Italian.

''My name is Sandro Clegano. I serve Tywino Lannistaro.''

...

Horrible butchering of Italian names aside.

Ikr, it would be lannistara
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Postby The Freehold of Caelton » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:07 am

Most knight didnt really try to go so overboard as Gregor Clegane.... While thy DEFINITELY werent perfect, they didnt try extra hard to be pure evil.....
Im hoping that it turns out that Petyr is a Reyne or a Tarbeck...

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Postby Landenburg » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:08 am

The Freehold of Caelton wrote:Most knight didnt really try to go so overboard as Gregor Clegane.... While thy DEFINITELY werent perfect, they didnt try extra hard to be pure evil.....
Im hoping that it turns out that Petyr is a Reyne or a Tarbeck...

I don't remember any knights getting pissed and decapitating their horse.
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