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Thoughts on HOTD Episode Ten: "The Black Queen"

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue May 26, 2015 10:59 am

Landenburg wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
They fought his heir because incest. Maegor and Jacaerys sorted out nearly all the issues between the Targs and Faith through their own methods.

While that is true, it doesn't stop them from not wanting another Aerys.

As they say, the gods flip the coin on what kind of person a Targaryen is.


Does seem to be a bit weighted towards the good side, but when it's bad, it's really, really bad.
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Postby Landenburg » Tue May 26, 2015 11:04 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Landenburg wrote:While that is true, it doesn't stop them from not wanting another Aerys.

As they say, the gods flip the coin on what kind of person a Targaryen is.


Does seem to be a bit weighted towards the good side, but when it's bad, it's really, really bad.

If only the Blackfyres had won..
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Postby Arlye Austros » Tue May 26, 2015 11:14 am

Pretty much everything. So if you haven´t read ADWD, stay out.
So I just read this supposed leak of the casting for Season 6. Some promising stuff. Read in spanish, but can translate some parts:

<<(...)We are referring to the casting for new characters of Season 6. Though we don´t have names (neither characters nor actors) we do have descriptions:

-A Pirate (ugh!): Man between 40 and 50 years-old. Describes as "an infamous pirate who has terrorized the seas around the world. Clever, reckless and with a pitch of madness." With a dangerous aspect. It says he will appear through a great part of the Season.

(...)
-A Family, formed by:
-> Father: Man between 50 and 60 years-old. One of the greatest military commanders of Westeross. Stern and intimidating. He demands martial discipline both at the field and at home.

->Mother: A woman of some 50 years of age. She is kind, slightly fat, and addorable, and has a weakness for one of his children, who benefits from this.

->Sister: A woman of about 20 years of age. She is a kind, likeable and hold no pretentions.

-> Brother: Man. Around his 25´s. Athletic, a good hunter, excellent swordsman, manly, not specially brilliant, but his father´s favourite son.
(...)

We also have a trio of young children, with very specific descriptions.

->An actor betweer 10-12 years of age, but interpreting a character of seven or eight. He is describes as a "clever lad" who seems to tall for his age. (...) He will have only one appearance.

-> A boy of 12, with auburn/brown hair and blue eyes. Must have a Northern accent. In his scenes he practices with a wooden sword. (Lenght of the role is not specified.)

-> A boy of 7. With dark brown hair, stretched face and green eyes. He must also have a northern accent. Also practices with a wooden sword (...)

-> Priest. Man between 40 and 50. A former tough soldier who found religion. Now a countryside priest without heading who helps the poors in the fields.(...)>>


There are other´s but these... Just woah!
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Chilean-Argentine, Pro Union of the Americas (all three). Anti Chavism, anti other stuff. Conservative, but not in extremis (hope so).
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Postby Baltenstein » Tue May 26, 2015 11:19 am

Baltenstein wrote:Another thing that left me wondering two episodes ago...

Why was Olyvar (the gay boy-toy from Littlefinger's brothel) so eager to cooperate with the Sparrows? It was the smugness with which he revealed Loras' secrets that I found somewhat puzzling. He didn't appear to be scared into cooperation. Also, won't he be punished for his "perversions" as well?


After rewatching the conversation between LF and Lady Olenna, I think I figured this one out:

Olyvar was the "gift" - a handsome young man - that LF gave to Cersei, so that she could see Loras and Margeary arrested. That's why he was so smug, he was acting on LF's orders. Now LF is going to hand him over to Lady Olenna to broker an alliance.

Well played, Lord Baelish.
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Postby Landenburg » Tue May 26, 2015 11:24 am

If Stephen Lang could show up on the GoT show, I might consider actually watching it again.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue May 26, 2015 11:39 am

Arlye Austros wrote:Pretty much everything. So if you haven´t read ADWD, stay out.
So I just read this supposed leak of the casting for Season 6. Some promising stuff. Read in spanish, but can translate some parts:

<<(...)We are referring to the casting for new characters of Season 6. Though we don´t have names (neither characters nor actors) we do have descriptions:

-A Pirate (ugh!): Man between 40 and 50 years-old. Describes as "an infamous pirate who has terrorized the seas around the world. Clever, reckless and with a pitch of madness." With a dangerous aspect. It says he will appear through a great part of the Season.

(...)
-A Family, formed by:
-> Father: Man between 50 and 60 years-old. One of the greatest military commanders of Westeross. Stern and intimidating. He demands martial discipline both at the field and at home.

->Mother: A woman of some 50 years of age. She is kind, slightly fat, and addorable, and has a weakness for one of his children, who benefits from this.

->Sister: A woman of about 20 years of age. She is a kind, likeable and hold no pretentions.

-> Brother: Man. Around his 25´s. Athletic, a good hunter, excellent swordsman, manly, not specially brilliant, but his father´s favourite son.
(...)

We also have a trio of young children, with very specific descriptions.

->An actor betweer 10-12 years of age, but interpreting a character of seven or eight. He is describes as a "clever lad" who seems to tall for his age. (...) He will have only one appearance.

-> A boy of 12, with auburn/brown hair and blue eyes. Must have a Northern accent. In his scenes he practices with a wooden sword. (Lenght of the role is not specified.)

-> A boy of 7. With dark brown hair, stretched face and green eyes. He must also have a northern accent. Also practices with a wooden sword (...)

-> Priest. Man between 40 and 50. A former tough soldier who found religion. Now a countryside priest without heading who helps the poors in the fields.(...)>>


There are other´s but these... Just woah!



>Reads first description
>Image

That first description utterly reeks of Euron. Which means the family could be the Greyjoys in Victarion's flashbacks, and the children could be Euron, Victarion and Aeron, which means next season might be the Ironborn season.

Yes, I'm allowed to hope damnit.
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Postby Arlye Austros » Tue May 26, 2015 11:51 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Arlye Austros wrote:Pretty much everything. So if you haven´t read ADWD, stay out.
So I just read this supposed leak of the casting for Season 6. Some promising stuff. Read in spanish, but can translate some parts:

<<(...)We are referring to the casting for new characters of Season 6. Though we don´t have names (neither characters nor actors) we do have descriptions:

-A Pirate (ugh!): Man between 40 and 50 years-old. Describes as "an infamous pirate who has terrorized the seas around the world. Clever, reckless and with a pitch of madness." With a dangerous aspect. It says he will appear through a great part of the Season.

(...)
-A Family, formed by:
-> Father: Man between 50 and 60 years-old. One of the greatest military commanders of Westeross. Stern and intimidating. He demands martial discipline both at the field and at home.

->Mother: A woman of some 50 years of age. She is kind, slightly fat, and addorable, and has a weakness for one of his children, who benefits from this.

->Sister: A woman of about 20 years of age. She is a kind, likeable and hold no pretentions.

-> Brother: Man. Around his 25´s. Athletic, a good hunter, excellent swordsman, manly, not specially brilliant, but his father´s favourite son.
(...)

We also have a trio of young children, with very specific descriptions.

->An actor betweer 10-12 years of age, but interpreting a character of seven or eight. He is describes as a "clever lad" who seems to tall for his age. (...) He will have only one appearance.

-> A boy of 12, with auburn/brown hair and blue eyes. Must have a Northern accent. In his scenes he practices with a wooden sword. (Lenght of the role is not specified.)

-> A boy of 7. With dark brown hair, stretched face and green eyes. He must also have a northern accent. Also practices with a wooden sword (...)

-> Priest. Man between 40 and 50. A former tough soldier who found religion. Now a countryside priest without heading who helps the poors in the fields.(...)>>


There are other´s but these... Just woah!



>Reads first description
>Image

That first description utterly reeks of Euron. Which means the family could be the Greyjoys in Victarion's flashbacks, and the children could be Euron, Victarion and Aeron, which means next season might be the Ironborn season.

Yes, I'm allowed to hope damnit.

ADWD & S6
Actually, I think the characters are:
-Euron
-Randyl Tarly
-His wife
-His daughter
-His son (Duncan I think?)
Young Ned
Young Rickard
Young Benjen
(maybe some girl too?)
Meribald
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Patagonia and its regional neighbours are dominated by the Frankish Kingdom of Argentina and use Modern tech for their affairs. -Modern/Post Modern Tech-

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue May 26, 2015 12:04 pm

Arlye Austros wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:

>Reads first description
>Image

That first description utterly reeks of Euron. Which means the family could be the Greyjoys in Victarion's flashbacks, and the children could be Euron, Victarion and Aeron, which means next season might be the Ironborn season.

Yes, I'm allowed to hope damnit.

ADWD & S6
Actually, I think the characters are:
-Euron
-Randyl Tarly
-His wife
-His daughter
-His son (Duncan I think?)
Young Ned
Young Rickard
Young Benjen
(maybe some girl too?)
Meribald


Might be, seeing as the father is referenced to as 'his father's favourite son', which we know Dickon to be over Sam.

Meribald is possible, although I don't recall much about him.
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Postby Charellia » Tue May 26, 2015 12:21 pm

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You seem convinced that if only the king would strike at the Faith Militant hard enough, the popular force they represent would go away. The last time a (Targaryen) ruler tried that, it exploded into a civil war which went on for years and only ended when the next king negotiated a compromise between the Faith and the Crown.

The Faith isn't in a particularly strong position right now, though. If Tommen challenges them, they would either have to back down or try to remove him from power. Assuming they actually could remove him from power (which is in itself doubtful considering the strength of the combined armies of the Lannisters and Tyrells) they would then have a power vacuum, which could be filled in three ways. 1. The High Sparrow could take the Iron Throne for himself, an act which would enrage all of the high lords and likely alienate many of his followers (generations of belief in the laws of succession are not going to disappear overnight, no matter how angry people are with the monarchy). 2. The throne could pass to Myrcella and the Martells. While the Martells would likely be grateful to the Faith Militant for eliminating their two greatest enemies, they do not seem likely to adhere to the Faith's laws any more than the Tyrells did. Unless the Faith suddenly becomes a lot more diplomatic, they will quickly find themselves in another civil war, with little time to rebuild their own armies. 3. Stannis becomes king and Melisandre gets free reign.

Even if the Faith wins they still lose. If Tommen stood up to them, they would have little choice but to try and negotiate.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue May 26, 2015 2:17 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Arlye Austros wrote:Pretty much everything. So if you haven´t read ADWD, stay out.
So I just read this supposed leak of the casting for Season 6. Some promising stuff. Read in spanish, but can translate some parts:

<<(...)We are referring to the casting for new characters of Season 6. Though we don´t have names (neither characters nor actors) we do have descriptions:

-A Pirate (ugh!): Man between 40 and 50 years-old. Describes as "an infamous pirate who has terrorized the seas around the world. Clever, reckless and with a pitch of madness." With a dangerous aspect. It says he will appear through a great part of the Season.

(...)
-A Family, formed by:
-> Father: Man between 50 and 60 years-old. One of the greatest military commanders of Westeross. Stern and intimidating. He demands martial discipline both at the field and at home.

->Mother: A woman of some 50 years of age. She is kind, slightly fat, and addorable, and has a weakness for one of his children, who benefits from this.

->Sister: A woman of about 20 years of age. She is a kind, likeable and hold no pretentions.

-> Brother: Man. Around his 25´s. Athletic, a good hunter, excellent swordsman, manly, not specially brilliant, but his father´s favourite son.
(...)

We also have a trio of young children, with very specific descriptions.

->An actor betweer 10-12 years of age, but interpreting a character of seven or eight. He is describes as a "clever lad" who seems to tall for his age. (...) He will have only one appearance.

-> A boy of 12, with auburn/brown hair and blue eyes. Must have a Northern accent. In his scenes he practices with a wooden sword. (Lenght of the role is not specified.)

-> A boy of 7. With dark brown hair, stretched face and green eyes. He must also have a northern accent. Also practices with a wooden sword (...)

-> Priest. Man between 40 and 50. A former tough soldier who found religion. Now a countryside priest without heading who helps the poors in the fields.(...)>>


There are other´s but these... Just woah!



>Reads first description
>Image

That first description utterly reeks of Euron. Which means the family could be the Greyjoys in Victarion's flashbacks, and the children could be Euron, Victarion and Aeron, which means next season might be the Ironborn season.

Yes, I'm allowed to hope damnit.

Please let it be so.
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Postby The Qeiiam Galaxy » Tue May 26, 2015 2:33 pm

Arlye Austros wrote:Pretty much everything. So if you haven´t read ADWD, stay out.
So I just read this supposed leak of the casting for Season 6. Some promising stuff. Read in spanish, but can translate some parts:

<<(...)We are referring to the casting for new characters of Season 6. Though we don´t have names (neither characters nor actors) we do have descriptions:

-A Pirate (ugh!): Man between 40 and 50 years-old. Describes as "an infamous pirate who has terrorized the seas around the world. Clever, reckless and with a pitch of madness." With a dangerous aspect. It says he will appear through a great part of the Season.

(...)
-A Family, formed by:
-> Father: Man between 50 and 60 years-old. One of the greatest military commanders of Westeross. Stern and intimidating. He demands martial discipline both at the field and at home.

->Mother: A woman of some 50 years of age. She is kind, slightly fat, and addorable, and has a weakness for one of his children, who benefits from this.

->Sister: A woman of about 20 years of age. She is a kind, likeable and hold no pretentions.

-> Brother: Man. Around his 25´s. Athletic, a good hunter, excellent swordsman, manly, not specially brilliant, but his father´s favourite son.
(...)

We also have a trio of young children, with very specific descriptions.

->An actor betweer 10-12 years of age, but interpreting a character of seven or eight. He is describes as a "clever lad" who seems to tall for his age. (...) He will have only one appearance.

-> A boy of 12, with auburn/brown hair and blue eyes. Must have a Northern accent. In his scenes he practices with a wooden sword. (Lenght of the role is not specified.)

-> A boy of 7. With dark brown hair, stretched face and green eyes. He must also have a northern accent. Also practices with a wooden sword (...)

-> Priest. Man between 40 and 50. A former tough soldier who found religion. Now a countryside priest without heading who helps the poors in the fields.(...)>>


There are other´s but these... Just woah!

Oh my Drowned God! It's the maddest of all Greyjoys!

One of the greatest military commanders? Hmm, sounds like Randyll Tarly.

The priest sounds like Septon Meribald. How will they fit him in though now that Brienne isn't in the Riverlands?

No idea who the children are. Northern accent? Could be the Starks. Wait a sec, doesn't that last one sound like Howland Reed?
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue May 26, 2015 2:47 pm

The Qeiiam Galaxy wrote:
Arlye Austros wrote:Pretty much everything. So if you haven´t read ADWD, stay out.
So I just read this supposed leak of the casting for Season 6. Some promising stuff. Read in spanish, but can translate some parts:

<<(...)We are referring to the casting for new characters of Season 6. Though we don´t have names (neither characters nor actors) we do have descriptions:

-A Pirate (ugh!): Man between 40 and 50 years-old. Describes as "an infamous pirate who has terrorized the seas around the world. Clever, reckless and with a pitch of madness." With a dangerous aspect. It says he will appear through a great part of the Season.

(...)
-A Family, formed by:
-> Father: Man between 50 and 60 years-old. One of the greatest military commanders of Westeross. Stern and intimidating. He demands martial discipline both at the field and at home.

->Mother: A woman of some 50 years of age. She is kind, slightly fat, and addorable, and has a weakness for one of his children, who benefits from this.

->Sister: A woman of about 20 years of age. She is a kind, likeable and hold no pretentions.

-> Brother: Man. Around his 25´s. Athletic, a good hunter, excellent swordsman, manly, not specially brilliant, but his father´s favourite son.
(...)

We also have a trio of young children, with very specific descriptions.

->An actor betweer 10-12 years of age, but interpreting a character of seven or eight. He is describes as a "clever lad" who seems to tall for his age. (...) He will have only one appearance.

-> A boy of 12, with auburn/brown hair and blue eyes. Must have a Northern accent. In his scenes he practices with a wooden sword. (Lenght of the role is not specified.)

-> A boy of 7. With dark brown hair, stretched face and green eyes. He must also have a northern accent. Also practices with a wooden sword (...)

-> Priest. Man between 40 and 50. A former tough soldier who found religion. Now a countryside priest without heading who helps the poors in the fields.(...)>>


There are other´s but these... Just woah!

Oh my Drowned God! It's the maddest of all Greyjoys!

One of the greatest military commanders? Hmm, sounds like Randyll Tarly.

The priest sounds like Septon Meribald. How will they fit him in though now that Brienne isn't in the Riverlands?

No idea who the children are. Northern accent? Could be the Starks. Wait a sec, doesn't that last one sound like Howland Reed?

Cleganebowl fucking confirmed get hype
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue May 26, 2015 2:50 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
The Qeiiam Galaxy wrote:
Oh my Drowned God! It's the maddest of all Greyjoys!

One of the greatest military commanders? Hmm, sounds like Randyll Tarly.

The priest sounds like Septon Meribald. How will they fit him in though now that Brienne isn't in the Riverlands?

No idea who the children are. Northern accent? Could be the Starks. Wait a sec, doesn't that last one sound like Howland Reed?

Cleganebowl fucking confirmed get hype
HYPE HYPE HYPE!
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Tue May 26, 2015 2:59 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Cleganebowl fucking confirmed get hype
HYPE HYPE HYPE!

Well, I'm convinced, thanks to this amazing advertorial poster and masterpiece of marketing.
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue May 26, 2015 3:41 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
The Qeiiam Galaxy wrote:
Oh my Drowned God! It's the maddest of all Greyjoys!

One of the greatest military commanders? Hmm, sounds like Randyll Tarly.

The priest sounds like Septon Meribald. How will they fit him in though now that Brienne isn't in the Riverlands?

No idea who the children are. Northern accent? Could be the Starks. Wait a sec, doesn't that last one sound like Howland Reed?

Cleganebowl fucking confirmed get hype

I so hope they do it. I so fucking hope so, both in the show and the books.

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Postby Meryuma » Tue May 26, 2015 5:21 pm

Arlye Austros wrote:Pretty much everything. So if you haven´t read ADWD, stay out.
So I just read this supposed leak of the casting for Season 6. Some promising stuff. Read in spanish, but can translate some parts:

<<(...)We are referring to the casting for new characters of Season 6. Though we don´t have names (neither characters nor actors) we do have descriptions:

-A Pirate (ugh!): Man between 40 and 50 years-old. Describes as "an infamous pirate who has terrorized the seas around the world. Clever, reckless and with a pitch of madness." With a dangerous aspect. It says he will appear through a great part of the Season.

(...)
-A Family, formed by:
-> Father: Man between 50 and 60 years-old. One of the greatest military commanders of Westeross. Stern and intimidating. He demands martial discipline both at the field and at home.

->Mother: A woman of some 50 years of age. She is kind, slightly fat, and addorable, and has a weakness for one of his children, who benefits from this.

->Sister: A woman of about 20 years of age. She is a kind, likeable and hold no pretentions.

-> Brother: Man. Around his 25´s. Athletic, a good hunter, excellent swordsman, manly, not specially brilliant, but his father´s favourite son.
(...)

We also have a trio of young children, with very specific descriptions.

->An actor betweer 10-12 years of age, but interpreting a character of seven or eight. He is describes as a "clever lad" who seems to tall for his age. (...) He will have only one appearance.

-> A boy of 12, with auburn/brown hair and blue eyes. Must have a Northern accent. In his scenes he practices with a wooden sword. (Lenght of the role is not specified.)

-> A boy of 7. With dark brown hair, stretched face and green eyes. He must also have a northern accent. Also practices with a wooden sword (...)

-> Priest. Man between 40 and 50. A former tough soldier who found religion. Now a countryside priest without heading who helps the poors in the fields.(...)>>


There are other´s but these... Just woah!


Euron, hell yeah! Season will probably be better than season 5 (though season 5 is getting better if the last episode is anything to go off).
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Postby The Qeiiam Galaxy » Wed May 27, 2015 12:33 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
The Qeiiam Galaxy wrote:
Oh my Drowned God! It's the maddest of all Greyjoys!

One of the greatest military commanders? Hmm, sounds like Randyll Tarly.

The priest sounds like Septon Meribald. How will they fit him in though now that Brienne isn't in the Riverlands?

No idea who the children are. Northern accent? Could be the Starks. Wait a sec, doesn't that last one sound like Howland Reed?

Cleganebowl fucking confirmed get hype

Fuck the hype! Now get me a chicken!

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Postby Corrian » Wed May 27, 2015 1:18 am

I think this last episode is the first episode of this season I didn't immediately hear people complaining about something related to it after it aired.
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Postby Ardoki » Wed May 27, 2015 1:22 am

Napkiraly wrote:
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The Targayens did practice polygamy though. If Jon's parents were married, he would not be a bastard.

No he would be. The Targs were initially able to go above the law because of the dragons. Even then iirc it ended after Maegor the Cruel (the third Targ king), whose decision to take a second wife angered the Faith and led to his exile before he took the throne.

There was probably still a wedding between L and R though. The Faith of Seven might not recognise it, but a lot of people might recognise it (there are still loyalists in Westeros).
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed May 27, 2015 2:08 am

Corrian wrote:I think this last episode is the first episode of this season I didn't immediately hear people complaining about something related to it after it aired.

Give it time.
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Postby Landenburg » Wed May 27, 2015 5:06 am

Ardoki wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:
No he would be. The Targs were initially able to go above the law because of the dragons. Even then iirc it ended after Maegor the Cruel (the third Targ king), whose decision to take a second wife angered the Faith and led to his exile before he took the throne.

There was probably still a wedding between L and R though. The Faith of Seven might not recognise it, but a lot of people might recognise it (there are still loyalists in Westeros).

I don't think much of anyone would recognize it, besides he was more of L's brother's son than that of R. And on top of that, even if he could be recognized he's still stuck in a place he can't leave.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed May 27, 2015 7:19 am

Ardoki wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:
No he would be. The Targs were initially able to go above the law because of the dragons. Even then iirc it ended after Maegor the Cruel (the third Targ king), whose decision to take a second wife angered the Faith and led to his exile before he took the throne.

There was probably still a wedding between L and R though. The Faith of Seven might not recognise it, but a lot of people might recognise it (there are still loyalists in Westeros).

And those will go to either Dany or (book series) Young Griff (if he's legit). Not Jon who is the bastard son of two nobles. Maybe if the former two died, but then he's stuck in the Night's Watch for the rest of his life.

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Postby Arlye Austros » Wed May 27, 2015 7:58 am

The Qeiiam Galaxy wrote:
Arlye Austros wrote:Pretty much everything. So if you haven´t read ADWD, stay out.
So I just read this supposed leak of the casting for Season 6. Some promising stuff. Read in spanish, but can translate some parts:

<<(...)We are referring to the casting for new characters of Season 6. Though we don´t have names (neither characters nor actors) we do have descriptions:

-A Pirate (ugh!): Man between 40 and 50 years-old. Describes as "an infamous pirate who has terrorized the seas around the world. Clever, reckless and with a pitch of madness." With a dangerous aspect. It says he will appear through a great part of the Season.

(...)
-A Family, formed by:
-> Father: Man between 50 and 60 years-old. One of the greatest military commanders of Westeross. Stern and intimidating. He demands martial discipline both at the field and at home.

->Mother: A woman of some 50 years of age. She is kind, slightly fat, and addorable, and has a weakness for one of his children, who benefits from this.

->Sister: A woman of about 20 years of age. She is a kind, likeable and hold no pretentions.

-> Brother: Man. Around his 25´s. Athletic, a good hunter, excellent swordsman, manly, not specially brilliant, but his father´s favourite son.
(...)

We also have a trio of young children, with very specific descriptions.

->An actor betweer 10-12 years of age, but interpreting a character of seven or eight. He is describes as a "clever lad" who seems to tall for his age. (...) He will have only one appearance.

-> A boy of 12, with auburn/brown hair and blue eyes. Must have a Northern accent. In his scenes he practices with a wooden sword. (Lenght of the role is not specified.)

-> A boy of 7. With dark brown hair, stretched face and green eyes. He must also have a northern accent. Also practices with a wooden sword (...)

-> Priest. Man between 40 and 50. A former tough soldier who found religion. Now a countryside priest without heading who helps the poors in the fields.(...)>>


There are other´s but these... Just woah!

Oh my Drowned God! It's the maddest of all Greyjoys!

One of the greatest military commanders? Hmm, sounds like Randyll Tarly.

The priest sounds like Septon Meribald. How will they fit him in though now that Brienne isn't in the Riverlands?

No idea who the children are. Northern accent? Could be the Starks. Wait a sec, doesn't that last one sound like Howland Reed?



It reminds me of a certain flashback of the Stark brothers (Ned´s brothers, that is). Though a certain sister would be missing.

Still... the prospect that one of them is Howland Reed (entirely plausible to me now that you point it out) is breathtaking. Tourney of Harrenhal... Knight of the Laughing Tree... Much hype.


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Postby The Qeiiam Galaxy » Wed May 27, 2015 8:31 am

Arlye Austros wrote:
The Qeiiam Galaxy wrote:
Oh my Drowned God! It's the maddest of all Greyjoys!

One of the greatest military commanders? Hmm, sounds like Randyll Tarly.

The priest sounds like Septon Meribald. How will they fit him in though now that Brienne isn't in the Riverlands?

No idea who the children are. Northern accent? Could be the Starks. Wait a sec, doesn't that last one sound like Howland Reed?



It reminds me of a certain flashback of the Stark brothers (Ned´s brothers, that is). Though a certain sister would be missing.

Still... the prospect that one of them is Howland Reed (entirely plausible to me now that you point it out) is breathtaking. Tourney of Harrenhal... Knight of the Laughing Tree... Much hype.


An yes. CLEGANBOWL too!

I found a site that listed a few more roles.

•Leading Actress, in her early 40’s, she’s an elegant actress with a traveling theatre company. Fun, charismatic, rum-drinking actress in the troupe.
•Priestess. Mid-20’s to early 30’s. Any ethnicity- she’s beautiful, intense, and magnetic.
•Fierce Warrior, a tall man in 30’s or 40’s with a powerful physique. They’re looking for someone with “mixed ethnicity” for the role.

Okay, I have no idea who the first two could be. Septa Lemore perhaps? Nah, I don't think so. Maybe just someone in Cersei's story.

Fierce warrior, mixed ethnicity. So he's either Dornish or an Essosi. Darkstar, is that you? Probably not, but a man can hope.

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Postby Arlye Austros » Wed May 27, 2015 8:50 am

The Qeiiam Galaxy wrote:
Arlye Austros wrote:

It reminds me of a certain flashback of the Stark brothers (Ned´s brothers, that is). Though a certain sister would be missing.

Still... the prospect that one of them is Howland Reed (entirely plausible to me now that you point it out) is breathtaking. Tourney of Harrenhal... Knight of the Laughing Tree... Much hype.


An yes. CLEGANBOWL too!

I found a site that listed a few more roles.

•Leading Actress, in her early 40’s, she’s an elegant actress with a traveling theatre company. Fun, charismatic, rum-drinking actress in the troupe.
•Priestess. Mid-20’s to early 30’s. Any ethnicity- she’s beautiful, intense, and magnetic.
•Fierce Warrior, a tall man in 30’s or 40’s with a powerful physique. They’re looking for someone with “mixed ethnicity” for the role.

Okay, I have no idea who the first two could be. Septa Lemore perhaps? Nah, I don't think so. Maybe just someone in Cersei's story.

Fierce warrior, mixed ethnicity. So he's either Dornish or an Essosi. Darkstar, is that you? Probably not, but a man can hope.


Seriously, unless ADWD, stay much out.->
I actually believe these could be related to the Other Dragon. Last one could be darkstar, though it could be (Old) Griff, considering the Stormlands quite mix with Dorne and Griff was concealing his ID. Not sure how much it would conflict with the description of that character, but Septa Lemore is very plausible and the other one could be some custom character for the show in that plot.

Other choice I see are additions to the Meribal Plot. And the priestes seems also similar to the Green Graces?
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